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Archive through 21 December 2002

Casebook Message Boards: General Discussion: General Topics: Online resources: Archive through 21 December 2002
Author: chris scott
Thursday, 21 November 2002 - 01:36 pm
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Hi all!
I've found some resources on line that may be new to some of you and which I am finding useful:

1) http://www.umich.edu/~risotto/imagemap.html

This is an online detailed version of the Booth map of 1889

2) http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/1859map/map1859.html

A detailed clickable version of the John Snow map of London in 1859. Very detailed and clear.

3) http://members.aol.com/WHall95037/london.html

Lost London Street Index: very useful. A list of London Streets that have changed their names over the years.

4) http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

The Free BMD project that aims to get all birth, marriage and death registrations for England and Wales on line. This is an ongoing project and their are graphs to show what cover is currently available. And they are asking for volunteers to help with the project!!

Author: Goryboy
Friday, 22 November 2002 - 08:11 am
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Chris~

Terrific resources! Thanks for sharing these.

All best,

John

Author: Monty
Friday, 22 November 2002 - 08:37 am
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Chris,

Very good...thank you.

Monty
:)

Author: chris scott
Sunday, 24 November 2002 - 12:13 pm
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Thought this announcement might interest some:-)
Will update as I find out more

1891 Census Online
The Public Records Office plan to put parts of the 1891 census online, following the use of part of it as a pilot for the 1901 census project. They intend to extend this county by county starting in 2002

Author: chris scott
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 11:25 am
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PRINCESS ALICE DISASTER
I have found a few resources about the Princess Alice disaster in which Liz Stride claimed here husband and various offspring died

http://www.yellins.com/woolwichferry/thames/PrincessAlice.htm

This gives a good account of the event with illustration of the vessels involved

http://www.alsbury.co.uk/princessalice/
This gives a list of documentation available on the event

http://www.alsbury.co.uk/princessalice/alice0.htm
This gives an alphabetical listing of those who died, declared missing and who were saved.

Hope these are of interest
Chris Scott

Author: Howard Brown
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 04:04 pm
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Dear Chris....As usual,you provide us with decent information....Thanks a ton ! HB

Author: chris scott
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 06:23 pm
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Howard
You're more than welcome - glad you find this stuff useful
chris

Author: chris scott
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 07:46 pm
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http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/

This site has the title:

The Black Sheep
& Police Indexes

and describes itself as:

This site lists over 125,000 names of Policemen and Criminals taken from
UK newspaper reports for the years 1850-1920 approx.
Names are divided into two indexes: The Black Sheep Index and the Police Index.
This is a FREE service.

Well worth a look!

Chris Scott

Author: chris scott
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 07:52 pm
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http://www.triumphpc.com/jack-the-ripper/index.shtml

An AI program that lets you talk with Jack!!!
Unbelievable!

Chris scott

Author: chris scott
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 08:08 pm
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http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/living/Environment/Conservation_Design/Blue_Plaques.asp

Details about blue plaque for Fred Abberline's place of retirement
PDF file can be downloaded - well worth a look

also a link to Wimborne Road cemetery with pics and details on some Druitt graves - one of them was mayor of Bournemouth

Chris Scott

Author: chris scott
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 08:16 pm
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http://home.freeuk.net/jackisback/

one to look out for in 2003 - well, according to them!!!


CS

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 30 November 2002 - 10:43 am
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Anyone trying to trace details of Mary Kelly's husband (Davis or Davies) may want to look here:

http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deaths.htm

It is the National Database of Mining death in Great Britain

Claims to list 90,000 names for those who suffered death or injury in the mines of Great Britain from 1850 to 1914

Hope it is useful to some of you
CS

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 30 November 2002 - 11:07 am
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Further to previous post about Mary Kelly's husband, another source of info is

http://www.xkeys.freeserve.co.uk/history/colliery.htm

This is a listing of all colliery disasters in Wales from 1837 to 1927 with numbers of fatalities

CS

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 30 November 2002 - 11:30 am
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Yet a third site for those tracing MK's husband!

http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/DisastersList.htm

This has an alpha listing of mining incidents and an associated list of fatalities

Very useful!
CS

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 30 November 2002 - 03:53 pm
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http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Cardiff/slaters.1880.html

This is an online directory of Cardiff for 1880 - about the time Mary Kelly was supposed to have gone there. It includes principal staff at the Newport Road Infirmary as follows:

Physicians:
W T Edwards MD
H J Paine MD
Surgeons
W Taylor MD
Alfred Sheen MD

This may help any resaerching that period of her life
CS

Author: chris scott
Monday, 02 December 2002 - 08:45 pm
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Online resources that that be of interest:

http://www.jeffreymaynard.com/

Anglo Jewish Miscellanies

Particularly interesting are:
Jewish Chronicle Births, Marriages and Deaths
to 1869
1880-89
1890-1895
Various lists of contributors
The "Aged Poor" lists inclued an M Kosminski at 48 Berner Street

Will be going through these in detail

http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/lodging.html

Victorian Lodging Houses 1888
with full list of lodging houses by police division

http://johnno.casebook.org/eastend.html

Loads of Jack related photos of the east End

http://www.rigal.freeserve.co.uk/east_end.htm

The Jewish East End Today

Author: chris scott
Monday, 02 December 2002 - 09:48 pm
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Always been fascinated by Issenschmidt - or however you are to spell it!
In fact Im about to complicate that even more cos Ive found an online source of 19th century Polish Birth, Marriage and death details - yes its there if you look
Issenschmidt is an anglicised form of a Polish name which can be variously spelt (and these are not all the variations)
AJZENSZMID
EYZENSZMITT
EIZENSZMITT
EYZENSZMIDT
etc
This guy would be great for Scrabble!!!
Anyway to pursue this a little further, the A-Z says his first name was Joseph and Sugden's excellent book said it was Jacob. Supposed date of birth somewhere about 1850.
Looking through the online records I found for LODZ province the following 2 birth records that may be of interest:

1) JOSEF AJZENSZMIDT (yet another spelling!)
born in 1851
and
2) JAKOB EJZENSZMIDT born in 1853

I hope this is of interest!!
Chris Scott

The source for this was

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/index.htm

Author: Neal Shelden
Tuesday, 03 December 2002 - 04:34 pm
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Hi Chris,
I believe there are photographs of Issenschmidt in the Colney Hatch Asylum records held at the Greater London Archives. Unfortunately, not one of Aaron Kosminski..
All the best.
Neal

Author: chris scott
Tuesday, 03 December 2002 - 04:47 pm
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Neal
many thanks for the info
Im looking out for possible details of Aaron kosminski - of course he's not on the 1881 census cos he wasnt in England then but Im gonna look in the Polish records I mentioned in connection with Isenschmidt
Regards
Chris

Author: chris scott
Tuesday, 03 December 2002 - 05:14 pm
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KAMINSKI/KOSMINSKI

According to the A-Z, Nathan Kaminky was born 1865, Aaron Kosminki was born 1864 or 1865 and the Met Police may have identified the two as one and the same.
the polish records site i mentioned in connection with earlier post on Issenschmidt was searched and threw up only one possible candidate:

From Polish birth/marriage/death records:

Register for Przedborz town Province: Kielce

Born 1865
ARON LEWEK KAMINSKI

For any really interested this town can be found at

Location of Przedborz: 51:05:05N 19:54:41E

Hope this may interest some!!!
Chris S

Author: Chris Phillips
Tuesday, 03 December 2002 - 05:48 pm
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On the M Kosminski of 48 "Berner St", the web page gives this a code "W". I think this must really be Berners St in the West End, where - according to other threads - Martin had his business premises.

In that case, probably the S. Kosminski of 170 Aldersgate Street EC, who comes next in the list, will be his younger brother Samuel.

Author: chris scott
Tuesday, 03 December 2002 - 05:51 pm
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Many thanks Chris - just the sort of feedback I need:-)
Thanks for the help
Chris

Author: chris scott
Wednesday, 04 December 2002 - 10:53 am
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http://www.oceanv.net/strideanc/f179.htm#f377
This is a page within the genealogy site that deals with Stride/Striyde and related surnames
This is the page for John and Elizabeth
CS

Author: Christopher T George
Wednesday, 04 December 2002 - 11:36 am
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Hi, Chris Scott and Chris Phillips:

Yes, you are correct, the address for the furrier Martin Kosminski should be Berners Street in the West End, not the East End Berner Street. I recently wrote an article on Martin Kosminski and his bankruptcies of 1880 and 1889 for Ripperologist.

He also, curiously, may have been the same Martin Kosminski who made a demonstration before Baroness Angela Burdett-Coutts and the Archbishop of Canterbury, I believe in 1879, of some device he had invented to release from the traces wagon- and carriage-horses who had fallen. Since this device may have been patented by Martin Kosminski it should be possible to find more about it and its inventor in British patents records. A nice little project for one of you.

The information about Martin Kosminski, the inventor, is included among the snippets from the Jewish Chronicle in the book The Jewish Victorian edited by Doreen Berger, and I reported it in an article on Baroness Burdett-Coutts and Dickens published in Ripperologist a few issues ago.

Best regards

Chris George

Author: chris scott
Wednesday, 04 December 2002 - 01:40 pm
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I have posted some good definition aerial photos of the 5 sites as they are now
You'll find these in the Pictures from Various Threads board under a new conversation called Aerial Site Photos
Hope they are of interest
Chris S

Author: Stuart
Thursday, 05 December 2002 - 11:45 am
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Great stuff Chris.
Thanks.

I was wondering (ooh...careful Stu) if anyone on this site could generate 3D images of the sites, or perhaps even Whitechapel !
I just thought it might be very useful.
If I had the skill, time, knowledge and what-not I would, but I don't.

cheers
Stu

Author: chris scott
Thursday, 05 December 2002 - 12:23 pm
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http://www.old-maps.co.uk/

another resource you may like to look at - free site - covering historic maps of UK with good clickable 1882 map of London

CS

Author: chris scott
Thursday, 05 December 2002 - 05:59 pm
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http://www.3dlondon.co.uk/splash.htm

Unbelievable site - zoomable aerial maps of London - can't be saved but definitely worth a look - the defintion is amazing - click on the spyglass icon when you are into the map and move mouse down to zoom in and up to zoom out
I had a lot of fun with this site!!!
Cover Whitechapel and other areas of interest
Chris scott

Author: chris scott
Friday, 06 December 2002 - 02:45 pm
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The Lodger - e-text
You can find the full text of The Lodge at

http://www.blackmask.com/olbooks/tldgr.htm

CS

Author: Esther Wilson
Sunday, 08 December 2002 - 08:38 am
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Thanks for the links Chris. :)

Esther

Author: Chris Phillips
Sunday, 08 December 2002 - 12:40 pm
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Here's an interesting online resource with background information abut Victorian London, including a number of full texts:

http://www.victorianlondon.org/

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 11:44 am
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http://www.mawer.clara.net/eastend.html

Actually a list of sugar refineries!! But has a very useful list of Whitechapel street and maps

Chris S

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 11:53 am
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http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

Very good site with lots of general background info about life in workhouses - even has a virtual workhouse tour!
Chris S

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 11:56 am
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http://members.shaw.ca/louiszimmerman/knives/WhiteChapel/

Intrigiung info and pics about designs for a knife for a projected movie which Ive ner heard of - just called "Whtechapel"
Any info about if this film was made would be appreciated

Chris S

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 11:59 am
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http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Whitechapel/Whitechapel.html

Very good site about Whitchapel workhouses
Pics (old and modern) census listing of inmates etc
well worth a look
Chris S

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 12:11 pm
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genmaps/genfiles/COU_Pages/ENG_pages/lon.htm

Some antique maps of London which may be of interest

Chris S

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 12:18 pm
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http://www.keith.emmerson.btinternet.co.uk/guide.html

Good guide to Whitechapel pubs with history notes, present status and some interesting pics

Chris S

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 12:22 pm
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http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/London/Writings/PeopleOfTheAbyss/

Full e-version of Jack London's People of the Abyss - many photos - well worth a look

Chris S

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 05:55 pm
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http://www.mjacobus.freeserve.co.uk/index.html

Jewish Genealogy page with special reference to Spitalfields
Some very useful census downloads (in Excel format)

Chris Scott

Author: chris scott
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 06:37 pm
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http://www.innertemplelibrary.org.uk/temple-history/inner-temple-history-the-buildings-kings-bench-walk.htm

This is on the official Inner temple website and features history and pics of Kings Bench Walk where M J Druitt lodged

Hope its of use
Chris S

 
 
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