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Book Suppliers

Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Media: General Discussion: Book Suppliers
Author: Paul Begg
Wednesday, 09 December 1998 - 04:40 am
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As a lot of people (well, two actually) have stunned the Ripper world into silence by admitting that they don't possess my book and can't buy it in Wales - odd, given that I am after all a born and bred Welsh awdur (that's Welsh for author) who cn pronounced Llanfairpwyll... with barely a mistake - I thought it might be a good idea to set up an area where specialist book dealers might get a mention, where we can list books we have for sale or swap, could state out wants, and so on. Maybe name the dealer or book first in your message.

Author: Paul Begg
Wednesday, 09 December 1998 - 06:47 am
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Uncensored Facts

Melanie Warren,
Phenomenal Books,
9 Kings Arcade,
King Street,
Lancaster, Lancashire LA1 1LE
England
Tel: (+44) (0)1524 845559
Fax: (+44) (0) 1524 845559
Email Address: bsales@phenomenal-books.com.

copy of the Uncensored Facts for £8.50 (second hand, so I don't get any royalties, so I can't really be accused of plugging can I?)

Author: Paul Begg
Wednesday, 09 December 1998 - 06:52 am
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Grey House Books

Loretta Lay
Grey House Books
60 Portobello Road
London
W11 3DL
Tel: 0171 221 0269

If phoning make sure you ask for Loretta.

True Crime specialist book dealer with a special interest in Jack the Ripper. Free catalogue. A lot of good stuff, collectors editions and so on.

(I thought I'd posted this, but it never showed up, so if it gets duplicated, well...)

Author: Claudia Oliver
Wednesday, 09 December 1998 - 08:45 am
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Paul,

Might also be useful for those of us looking for publishers. Anyone knowing of a publisher with even the remotest interest in producing t/c, Ripper books would be most welcome to contribute.

Cheers,

C.

ps. Could also be useful as an advisory page for anyone interested in producing a book????

Author: Christopher-Michael
Wednesday, 09 December 1998 - 03:13 pm
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I might also add an address for Americans (at least those on the East Coast:)

Schoenhof's Foreign Books
76A Mount Auburn Street
Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138
Telephone: 617.547.8855
Fax: 617.547.8851
Web: www.scheonhofs.com

I purchase all of the British Ripper books not available in the US through them, and have always been satisfied with the service. If you call, ask for Dean Hunt, and let him know that I recommended you.

It has also been mentioned on the boards that Stewart's book is currently unavailable. Not true. You may get it through Amazon.com, or at your local Barnes & Noble, or Borders. The paperback is now in stock.

Christopher-Michael

N.B. So, you can pronounce Llanfairpwyll, eh, Paul? How about Bwlchtocyn, then? Give that a try.

Author: Johnno
Sunday, 20 December 1998 - 04:35 am
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On the subject of specialist book suppliers, I would like to mention one in which people located in Sydney, Australia, may take an interest.

The bookstore concerned is not a specialist bookstore as such, but it does contain a large selection of true crime books. Details as follows:

Abbey's Bookshop
York Street, Sydney, NSW 2000
Telephone: +61-2-9264-3111

In response to Paul's message, I too admit that I do not own a copy of "Jack the Ripper: The Uncensored Facts", for I have never seen it in any bookstore I have visted. I do have the A-Z, which is quite easy to find.

Author: Yazoo
Saturday, 06 February 1999 - 08:43 am
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Anyone looking for an out-of-print book can use the following Internet-based services (this is not meant to be a complete listing; only a listing of services I've used myself):

Amazon.com (USA site, maybe not the UK or German sites which are fairly new) -- One of our Casebook advertisers. Performs the search for you so that you can't choose editions or prices yourself -- but you aren't obligated to buy. They don't seem to be receptive to the idea that |i{their} first choice might not be your first choice. They've never offered me more than a take-it-or-leave-it choice (which stinks). You look up the title in an ordinary search; no special out-of-print section (yet!). I hope they learn from the next supplier in this list.

Barnes and Noble -- Has a special out-of-print section. This site allows you to pick from a listing of the title found in second-hand shops affiliated through B&N, so you can choose the edition at the price for your budget. I find this functionality useful -- even though they aren't Casebook advertisers.

John King Books -- My hometown's largest used and rare book seller. Performs world-wide searches. Will work with you via email for editions and pricing that you want. I think he's quite well-known in bibliophile circles. Trival Pursuit Note: the late, great Zero Mostel -- a true bibliophile -- would stop in to John's store (actually a six or seven storey warehouse) whenever he visited Detroit. Why are the best comedians always book-lovers? Mostel, Groucho, Mel Brooks, Allen, to name a few.

Yaz

Author: Paul Begg
Sunday, 07 February 1999 - 01:36 am
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Have a look under "Bibliofind", Yaz, and "ABE", when you next search. And in the entry box, just type "Jack the Ripper" in the keyword section. You may thus enjoy a few moments of lust and even empty you bank account!

Author: judith stock
Sunday, 07 February 1999 - 01:51 am
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add alibris.com to that list, Paul, as well. all three sites, using jack the
ripper as keywords, will present several
hundred ripper titles--from magazines to
movie press kits. one can use a credit
card or send a cheque, whichever one
prefers. shipping is fast and usually
books are returnable if not as advertised.

i've been using abebooks.com for two years now and have not had even one bad experience with any of their dealers.

a great dealer is mike greenbaum at
janus books; he has both fiction and non-
titles.

i've been doing business for the last twenty years with the best true crime dealer in the country, patterson smith. some of his inventory is on the web at abebooks, but most is not. he lives in montclair, nj and a phone call would probably work best with him, if you can't
find a certain book.

Author: Paul Begg
Sunday, 07 February 1999 - 04:23 am
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Hi Judith
Is Alibris the former Interloc? I sort of went of Interloc after the change over if it is. And agreed about Janus, though he was one of the first US dealers to realise that people collect Ripper books and IMHO he pitches his prices at the higher end of the spectrum. Patterson Smith wins just praise, though. And through these sources you can pick up some superb bargains, usually find whatever OP book you want, and also stumble over some drool-making rare stuff (usually unaffordable!).

Author: Yazoo
Sunday, 07 February 1999 - 07:29 am
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Hey, Judith!

Can you give a web address for Janus Books or Mike Greenbaum? I'm not finding the type of bookseller who would deal with out-of-print books or JtR even.

The others I found and have bookmarked.

Thanks again,

Yaz

Author: bookman
Tuesday, 09 February 1999 - 05:50 pm
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If you order out of print books from Amazon or Barnes and Noble they just look them up at http://www.abebooks.com and order them, so you can go there yourself and cut out the middlemen. Also, not everyone participates in the B&N aspect of ABE so you don't get as large a selection.
I have also seen some great 19th century papers with Ripper articles on ebay.
The best way to search several sources simultaneously is to use the bookfinder at mx.org. Alibris is the same company as Interloc but they do business differently--Interloc just sent you to a dealer the way ABE and Bibliofind will, while Alibris extracts a discount from the dealers (so very few have signed up as yet) and a markup from the customer,result: smaller selection and higher prices.
Remember, you can set up want lists at ABE or Bibliofind and let them shop for you.

Author: Yazoo
Tuesday, 09 February 1999 - 08:04 pm
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Thanks, Bookman!

I've already used ABE, thanks to Paul and Judith's recommendations, with good results (saving lots of money!!!!) -- so far anyway. I did notice on the abebooks.com site that B&N was tied into ABE. Any way NOT to do business with Barnes & Noble is good enough for me (and I realize my loathing for all things B&N is strictly personal).

Yaz

Author: bookman
Wednesday, 10 February 1999 - 12:12 pm
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Your welcome, Yaz.
When you order out of print from Amazon or B&N they draw on the ABE database for titles. You wouldn't notice this unless you are a dealer (like me, but I won't give my name since this is not a commercial board).
Don't forget you can order English Ripper titles from amazon.co.uk.
Finally, the news groups alt.marketplace.books rec.arts.books.marketplace, and uk.adverts.books are good places to post want lists and find dealers.

Author: Ashling
Monday, 15 February 1999 - 03:08 am
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Hi all! Does anyone know if The Trial of George Chapman by Hargrave L. Adam is available in paperback? Barnes & Nobles wants $71.00 + $5.00 handling for a hardback. ABE has one hardback copy "in good condition" for $50.00. Books-A-Million doesn't list it. These prices are above my budget and my library doesn't have a copy. I'm in the USA. Help??!!

Thanks,
Ashling

Author: Paul begg (212.250.195.111 - 212.250.195.111)
Monday, 15 February 1999 - 06:36 am
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Hello Ashling

The book isn't available in paperback and it is likely to command a high price because it is a part of a series, Notable British Trials, of interest to collectors. But don't give up! You get often get a 'reading copy' for about £10 to £15. A reading copy being one which isn't good enough for the collector.

Author: Walter Timothy Mosley
Saturday, 01 February 2003 - 11:04 pm
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These days www.half.com (http://half.ebay.com/search/search.jsp?nthTime=1&product=books%3Atitle&query=ripper&x=7&y=11) carries an excellent selection of used Ripper books. If you really wanted to buy Patricia Cornwell's book but hesitated to do so because you did not want her to get your money, then you can buy a good used copy in hardback for as little as $6.95 and thwart her attempt to pick your pocket.

Other titles available are a hardcover diary for less than $2.00 (you get what you pay for), Letters From Hell for $15, and a large selection of popular titles for a fraction of their original cost.

Half.com carries many other titles of interest to Ripperologists, such as Psychopathia Sexualis, and their excellent search engine locates them in a snap.

WTM

Author: Ivor Edwards
Sunday, 02 February 2003 - 12:49 am
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Hi Tim,
Like the remark about you get what you pay for. Does that mean people should shoplift Cornwell's book insted of buying it !!!!!!

Author: John Savage
Sunday, 02 February 2003 - 10:10 am
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Ivor,
There are always high street book shops that sell off cheaply, copies of books which have not sold well at thier original price.
We have one locally that has many of Miss Cornwell's novels for sale at about £2 -£3. When her book on Sickert joins them, I may purchase a copy.


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