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Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Media: General Discussion:
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Author: Yazoo
Sunday, 07 February 1999 - 09:49 am |        | Aw, heck then! I'll say it for the third time, close my eyes, and see what happens -- maybe nothing, but.... Don't worry if I "disappear" too!
Beetlejuice!
Yaz |
Author: Caroline
Monday, 08 February 1999 - 09:56 am | | Knock knock Yaz!
Are you okay?
I'm worried now because you have beaten Little Caz to it. This is one of her favourite movies.
Love,
Caroline |
Author: Yazoo
Monday, 08 February 1999 - 04:02 pm | | Hey!
I'm okay. Tell Little Caz she's gotta be as quick as Lara Croft to out-type me!
"Day-O!
Day-ay-ay-O!
Daylight come and me wan' go home!"
Everybody sing!
heehee
Yaz |
Author: Cant we all get along?
Monday, 08 February 1999 - 11:42 pm | | All,
I guess I took the preceding exchange between the two anonymouses (starting FEb 6.) a bit differently than everyone else seems to have. The first anon was making a comment on a forthcoming book, and appeared to have a predisposition towards speculated forthcoming criticism of it. Anon Two makes a somewhat snide comment about "truth" which I took to mean, "hey Buddy, how about waiting for the book to come out before you jump to any conclusions".
I could be totally wrong, but that was the sense I got from it.
Then there is a third poster, named, exclaiming that anon TWo "wouldn't know the truth if it bit him/her", a genuine insult.
Anon Two answers with sarcasm, "bit like you?"
Another named poster appears and discharges more sarcastic vituperation upon Anons 1 and 2.
A third named poster appears and makes generally reasonable comments, although, as I mentioned in a similar post on the no-longer extant "anony-mouses" board, I have not really seen anyone post anything as horrible, gruesome, or obscene as, say, the photos of Mary Kelly. Good grief, there is even a board called "Did Jack Have Sex?" It would be a treat if EVERYONE acted with courtesy, but I rather doubt they will. I believe the "Golden Rule" is a grand one, but I am not so naive as to expect everyone will abide by it, nor would I advocate trying to enforce compliance. If I try to live by this rule, and others don't, does that then provide me with some sort of excuse to put the rule aside, and treat like with like? One must be consistent in one's actions.
Poster four comes on and makes pertinent comments. He catches the drift of anon One's comments.
Poster one returns with more sarcasm and insults for anon 2.
Poster Two replies with same.
Several other messages.
I hesitate to post this somewhat lengthy mess, but the boards have been quiet these few days. If you excuse the atrociuos pun, I am sure to get "ripped" for it. But I am annoyed. I found this website, found it quite good (seriously, this is one of the best sites I have visited!) and have learned quite a bit. I don't post often, and when I do, I typically post on general interest sorts of boards. I don't pretend to have the kind of knowledge that some of you have, but I still can enjoy "envisioning what the ripper looked like",
or speculating on the meaning of "hell in the lusk letter", or reading the many different posts, including many that come from "anonomi" or nicknamed individuals. Maybe I'm kidding myself, but I think that every once in a while I even make a comment that is worthwhile. I find it very interesting that anons one and two wrote a total of five lines, and I will let everyone else look for themselves at the response those five lines engendered.
I come here, presumably like everyone else, because I find the ripper's identity a fascinating mystery. Can't we all just get along and get back to dealing with the ripper? |
Author: Caroline
Tuesday, 09 February 1999 - 10:41 am | | Dear 'Can't'
I take your point and humbly apologise, as your 'named' poster.
I may have been hasty in assuming Anon. no.2 to have been the same 'one-liner' merchant who has been dogging these boards since before I arrived here just after Christmas. My short replies/insults, call them what you like, have always been confined to him, and usually aimed at protecting other board-users. If I am right about Anon. no.2, I am afraid I feel I have less to apologise for, and I will come back at him when he addresses me personally as I have every right to do so.
Perhaps you have not read my JtR posts in depth, but I can assure you they outnumber this type by something in the region of 10-1. I hope you therefore make at least 10 more JtR posts under whatever name you choose, so we can judge each other's opinions on a more even-handed basis.
Once again I'm very sorry to have upset anyone.
Best wishes,
Caroline (Caz Senior) |
Author: Stephen Tunney
Monday, 07 June 1999 - 01:24 pm | | Hello all.
This is my first post to this website. I am a newbie to Ripperology, having recently bought and read The Complete History of Jack The Ripper, by Philip Sugden (revised edition). Fascinating stuff.
Having also read through a good chunk of the website, I am somewhat surprised at the sheer complexity of both the facts and the theories surrounding the case. The degree of controversy too is startling.
Anyway, I thought I'd say a little about the second book I've bought on JtR. I've just started it. I haven't seen any discussion of it yet, so I thought I'd give a quick summary of the contents. The book I'm referring to is entitled: The Mammoth Book of JACK THE RIPPER, edited by Maxim Jakubowski and Nathan Braund. It was first published in the UK by Robinson Publishing in 1999 and in the USA by Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 19 West 21st Street, New York, NY 10010-6805. The ISBN is 0-7867-0626-0.
Here's the Contents:
UNDISPUTED FACTS
--A complete chronology of the Whitechapel Murders
--Just the facts
KEY TEXTS
--Witness Statements
--Autopsy Reports
--The "Ripper Letters"
--Police Views
--Disputed Texts
CURRENT VIEWS
--The Real Jack the Ripper, William Beadle
--How Jack the Ripper Saved the Whitechapel Murderer, Mark Daniel
--In Quest of Jack the Ripper, Melvyn Fairclough
--David Cohen and the Polish Jew Theory, Martin Fido
--Catch Me When You Can, Paul Harrison
--The Diary of Jack the Ripper, Shirley Harrison
--The Facts Speak for Themselves, Bruce Paley
--The Jack the Ripper Whitechapel Murders, Sue and Andy Parlour
--The Mad Doctor, Gary Rowlands
--The Way to Hell, M. J. Trow
--Was James Kelly "Jack the Ripper?", James Tully
--Jack the Ripper: Man or Myth, Peter Turnbull
--The Great Conspiracy, Nick Warren
--Guts 'n' Roses: The Coming Apocalypse of the Ripper Millenium, Simon Whitechapel
--Jack the Myth, A. P. Wolf
--A Lifetime in Ripperology, Colin Wilson
FURTHER EVIDENCE
--Other Suspects
--Other Victims?
--Weather Report
--Bibliography
--Filmography
--Index
Including the index the book runs to 499 pages, and seems good value for money. I think you can get it at a discount from amazon.com, though I bought my copy in Borders.
Has anyone else got and read this book? Is it any better (or worse) than, say, the 1994 volume edited by Camille Wolf, entitled: Who Was Jack the Ripper? Just curious if I should spend some more money trying to get that one or not.
Email me privately if you wish! |
Author: Stephen Tunney
Monday, 07 June 1999 - 01:27 pm | | PS: Is there some way to access the Profiles of contributors to these message boards? Just like to know to whom I'm talking. :-)
Kind regards! |
Author: Christopher George
Tuesday, 08 June 1999 - 08:16 am | | Greetings, Stephen:
Welcome to the site. We hope you get as much enjoyment out of discussion of the Whitechapel murders as the rest of us do. We welcome your contributions and thoughts on this 111-year-old mystery that continues to fascinate. You will find a complete review of The Mammoth Book of Jack the Ripper written by Christopher-Michael DiGrazia on the Casebook Productions web site. Please go to http://business.fortunecity.com/all/138/cp_ripper_notes/rn_book_review.htm
Chris George
co-Editor, Ripper Notes |
Author: Christopher George
Tuesday, 08 June 1999 - 10:17 am | | To Paul Begg:
Back on January 1, 1999 (a lot of water under the bridge since then, hey?) you had asked if anybody knew about the new book "The Bell Tower: Jack the Ripper in San Francisco" by Robert Graysmith, and you expressed skepticism about a book that says the Ripper series of murders ended in San Francisco in 1896. This book is finally out after a number of delays and is being reviewed by Sam Gafford, editor of Casebook Production's quarterly newsletter, Ripper Notes, for our August issue. As you know, an interview with a certain Ripperologist who eats (or should I say used to eat? :-() pizza with tuna (!) appears in our May issue just out. An excerpt from this interview for anyone interested in reading Paul Begg's words of wisdom should go to http://business.fortunecity.com/all/138/cp_ripper_notes/cp_ripper_notes_interview.htm
Chris George
co-Editor, Ripper Notes |
Author: Christopher George
Tuesday, 08 June 1999 - 12:45 pm | | To Stephen Tunney:
In regard to your wish to have profiles of some of the people who post here, if you go to the main page of the casebook, one of the links is the Reader Home Pages that a number of us have established to tell the visitors who we are. You might want to begin one for yourself, and we encourage others who come here to do likewise.
Chris George |
Author: RED DEMON
Tuesday, 08 June 1999 - 03:30 pm | | Hello All!
I didn't realize until just reading your postings on this sight, that 'the Jack the Ripper' pub was named back to 'the Ten Bells' because of feminists. They sure are an annoying lot, aren't they?
Yours truly,
RED DEMON |
Author: Caz
Tuesday, 08 June 1999 - 04:50 pm | | Hey Red!
I agree with you totally there. I hate it when pub names are changed for no good reason. And I'd take bets that most of the punters at the Jack the Ripper pub are male anyway, which does the feminists no credit.
I understand there are currently council moves afoot to wipe the memory of Jack from the face of Whitechapel. What a wasted tourist opportunity, apart from trying to change history!
Sorry for the off-topic comments.
And I have now read your Profile Red, and apologise again for not doing so earlier. Am I forgiven?
Love,
Caz |
Author: Stewart P Evans
Sunday, 04 July 1999 - 04:06 am | | Coming Soon
A full English translation by Molly Whittington-Egan, with an introduction by Richard Whittington-Egan, beautifully produced casebound in yellow decorated cloth with a colour dustwrapper. A unique opportunity to own your own copy of this very rare French book of 1935. The edition will be limited so it will be important to get your orders in at the earliest opportunity.
A must for all 'Ripper' book collectors, students of the case, enthusiasts, and those with a serious interest in 'Ripper' lore.
A recent copy of the original French paperback edition of this book (not as nice as this edition) sold for £200. This book is set to retail at only £24. Ordering details to follow soon. |
Author: Christopher-Michael
Sunday, 04 July 1999 - 11:53 pm | | Thank you for the information Stewart; I look forward to adding this to my own Ripper library. Please keep us posted!
CMD |
Author: Judith Stock
Tuesday, 06 July 1999 - 09:13 pm | | Dear Chris,
I know, I know--the pain is back!! But,
on this I must insist: the name of the
family killed in Holcomb, Kansas was
CLutter, not Cutter. Never let it be said I'm not a nit-picking pain in the
patoot!!!
I've read the "Bell Tower"thing--how does
one shrug on the Internet? It's OK for
silly Ripper collectors like me, but I
wouldn't waste a huge amount of time on it.
As for the "Mammoth Book....", there are
some almost libellous remarks in it, and
not much new or fresh.
Camille's book was a lot of fun and was
advertised as speculation, as the title
implies, and should not be regarded as
a research vehicle for one who's just
learning about our favorite villain.
Start with these three (in any order):
Sugden, Rumbelow and the A-Z. They stand
alone and complement each other as well; among the three, one can find
almost anything one ever wanted to know
about JtR, but was afraid to ask.......
Regards to all (trying to be civil)
Judy |
Author: Christopher George
Wednesday, 07 July 1999 - 03:18 am | | Hi, Judy:
Nice to hear from you again. Thank you for your wise words on recommended literature on the Whitechapel murders.
Chris George |
Author: Stephen P. Ryder
Wednesday, 07 July 1999 - 12:46 pm | | I will be reviewing the following book in the next newsletter (mid- to late-July), but if anyone is interested, here's a teaser:
Whitechapel Murders, The
by Derek Ansell
List Price: £7.99
ISBN Number: 0754400530
SUMMARY
London 1888. A shadow of terror was sweeping across the streets of Whitechapel, one of the most infamous killers of all time was at large. He was never identified or brought to justice, but the diaires and journals of James and Florie Maybrick may provide the answer over 100 years later.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Born in London and educated at St. Martin's School of Art, Derek Ansell now lives in Berkshire. He regularly contributes features, interviews and record reviews both to Jazz Journal International and Newbury Weekly News. In the past two years he has composed sleeve notes for independent jazz record labels and reviewed for the Canadian music magazine Coda.
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Anyone interested in ordering the book (at a 20% discount, no less!) can do so online at:
http://www.citronpress.co.uk/books/book36.html |
Author: Christopher George
Wednesday, 07 July 1999 - 08:22 pm | | Hi, Stephen:
Thanks for letting us know about the book "The Whitechapel Murders" by Derek Ansell.
You quoted the blurb describing the content of the book, "...the diaries and journals of James and Florie Maybrick may provide the answer over 100 years later..." -- a statement that also appears on the Citron Press web site.
Below this wording on the publisher's web site appears this word of warning:
"Support New Fiction by Supporting Citron Press"
Chris George |
Author: Stephen P. Ryder
Thursday, 08 July 1999 - 11:40 am | | I've a little news of my own to add to this board. ;-)
Announcing the Ripperological Preservation Society's next reprint:
Lord Jacquelin Burkney: The Whitechapel Terror
By "Rodissi" (pseud. Jacob Ringgold)
Anton Publishing Co., 152 pp.
co. Jan 15, 1889
Published only two months after the murder of Mary Jane Kelly, this fictional treatment of the case names Lord Jacquelin Burkney, an English-born anatomist, as the infamous Whitechapel murderer. As a young man, Burkney fell madly in love with a lower-class woman. His father's objections to the liaison went unheeded, and, when faced with a decision between his father's wealth and his one "true love," the young Burkney chose the latter. Poor choice. Burkney's love jilts him after only three months, admitting that it was only his wealth and inheritance which attracted her in the first place. Understandably upset, Burkney from then on shuns the company of women and moves to Paris, where he becomes a renowned professor and anatomist. Years later, after learning of his estranged father's death, he returns to England, where his past returns to haunt him...
I'm still in the very rudimentary production stages, but I thought I'd drop a teaser here just to give y'all some advance notice! ;-)
-- Stephen |
Author: Awake
Monday, 26 July 1999 - 07:15 am | | Hi, everyone!
Ever since I took part in a "ripperwalk" in London some years ago, I've been fascinated by the terrible deeds committed in 1888, and the mysteries surrounding these. I've also always been very interested in writing, so now I've begun to write a book about a serial killer who imitates the murders of Jack the ripper - which takes part in modern day Stockholm, the capital of Sweden (since I'm Swedish)
The purpose with the book is among others to show the reality of the prostitues in the capital, but also to bring forth the history of Jack the ripper and some circumstances surrounding the case, as the killer in my book will be trying to copy the killings - and choose victims - as similar to the Whitechapel murders as possible.
Anyway, I have decided not to give away the identity of the killer, or even let him be captured - to keep the certain mysterious atmosphere connected to Jack the ripper alive.
But, I would be grateful if you "out there" could give me any suggestions concerning:
* The personality of the killer (before, during and after the killings)
* The weapon/s Jack T R used
* Special incidents that ought to be included in the book
And finally, it would be interesting to hear what you think about the concept.
If you'd like to give me some help with this (or just tell me that I shouldn't be writing another fiction novel concerning the killings), feel free to mail me at:
awake77@hotmail.com
or write down a response on this page.
Finally I wish you all a really nice day and would like to thank Stephen for an outstanding homepage!
/ Magnus B |
Author: Stephen P. Ryder
Monday, 26 July 1999 - 01:25 pm | | The World's Greatest Mysteries
Ed. Charles Neil, Preface by Edgar Tozer.
Victoria, Australia. (1936)
Reprint: Ross Strachan (1999)
Ross Strachan has recently released a reprint edition of this fifty page pamphlet, which carried a chapter entitled "How 'Jack the Ripper' was Caught: the Full 'Inside' Story." The chapter retells the Lees story, implicating a prominent West End physician as the killer. The chapter serves as "evidence" for "spiritualist insight," which is the basis for the entire publication. (This may itself be a reprint of a chapter found in A New Earth and a New Heaven, by William Boyle Hill, 1936.)
The remaining chapters deal with life after death, psychic healing, and other spiritualist matters. There are illustrations within the text of some prominent spiritualists (as well one in which a non-descript man with a Gladstone bag follows a woman down a darkened London street -- this is used as the cover illustration as well).
The reprint is done in folded A4 fashion with cardstock covers. Recommended for serious students and collectors. Ross is to be commended for continuing this trend towards preservation, which has already brought more than a dozen new or "lost" titles to sight and saved them from permanent destruction.
Only 100 copies have been produced, so orders should be placed ASAP. Cost is £7 UK (Post-free) and $15 US (Air-mail, cash only). Orders and inquiries can be sent to:
Ross Strachan
66 Cairn View
Galston
Ayrshire
Scotland UK
KA4 8LY
Email: ROSS@RSTRACHAN.IN2HOME.CO.UK
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Author: Tom Wescott
Wednesday, 07 March 2001 - 12:27 am | | Hello,
If anyone more 'in the know' than I can help, I'd greatly appreciate a complete list of all the Ripper books released in the last 2 years, or at least the last one year. I haven't been to the Casebook much in the past year and want to see what I've missed. Thanks a lot in advance.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott |
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