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Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Media: Specific Titles: Other Books (Non-Ripper): East End 1888 (Fishman)
Author: Andrew Lorne Morrison Thursday, 19 November 1998 - 08:10 pm | |
This book takes a look at a year in the life of a London borough which in this case is Tower Hamlets (This includes Whitechapel and Spitalfields). The book is divided into ten chapters : 1) The Image and Reality 2) Housing, Health and Sanitation 3) The Unemployed and the Sweated 4) Paupers and 'Bastilles' 5) Women and Children 6) The Ghetto 7) Crime and Punishment (includes a section on Jack the Ripper) 8) The Saints 9) Politics 10) Leisure This is not a book of statistics, though there are facts and figures, but a book about people and how conditions and events effected them. Fishman is a social historian who was brought up in the East End and he empathises and sympathises with the people he writes about. If you want to know what else was going on in the East End at the time of the ripper murders (eg the Matchgirls' strike) and want to understand the social and political setting in which the murders took place then this is the book for you.
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Author: Ashling Monday, 24 May 1999 - 05:26 pm | |
Hi y'all. Surfing online, I found five pages of names indexed from Fishman's "East End 1888" - which includes the canonical five victims of JtR. This is on a genealogy site which gives brief info on a variety of subjects connected to the 1800s. I tried 3 times to format a hyperlink, but the computer gods frown on me tonight. So, try typing in yourself - to connect to link below - then scroll towards bottom of page to Names, Personal> East End 1888. http://www/genuki.org.uk/indexes/LNDcontents.html Take care, Ashling
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Author: Julian Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 11:41 am | |
G'day Ashling, That's a beaut website mate, I don't know how but it led straight back to my own departments homepage. Now I can find out what my Social Club's been up to all year. Cheers for the good work anyway mate. Jules
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Author: Ashling Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 01:44 pm | |
Hi JULES: All the hyperlinks I tried to make last night kept leading to that same weird "search the web" homepage & still does I see. To get to the site I referenced - I clicked on my browser's Find Page option under File on my toolbar & then typed the URL into the long slot ... You know, doing it the "old-fashioned way. Thanks for letting me know it still works incorrectly, Jules. STEPHEN: If you pass by, see if this is a kink on the Casebook please. Thanks. Take Care, Ashling
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Author: Guy Hatton Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 02:32 pm | |
May as well give this a go! The precise URL for the "East End 1888" list is: http://www.gold.ac.uk/genuki/LND/Indexes/EASTEND.txt
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Author: Guy Hatton Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 02:33 pm | |
Gotcha!
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Author: adam wood Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 02:37 pm | |
Hi Ashling The problem occurs simply because you typed http://www/genuki.org.uk/indexes/LNDcontents.html instead of http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/LNDcontents.html It works fine! Thanks for the site Adam
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Author: Guy Hatton Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 03:18 pm | |
Well spotted, Adam!
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Author: Ashling Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 04:23 pm | |
ADAM & GUY: Thank you!!! I'm looking for a complicated explanation - when a little basic detective work was all it took to reveal faulty "punctuation." I really appreciate your help. I put another URL on the "Research Resources - can U Help" board ... lots of nice tidbits on it. Take care, Ashling
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Author: adam wood Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 05:00 pm | |
Ashling, can I ask you a favour... if you find sites that would be of interest (such as the ones above), could you pelase email them to me so I can add them to the Cloak and Dagger Club's links page. That goes for anyone else who finds an interesting resource! If you haven't seen our page, it's at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/7020/links.html Thx, Adam
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Author: Ashling Tuesday, 25 May 1999 - 05:27 pm | |
ADAM: I bookmarked C & D months ago. :^) I'll be happy to pass on any future discoveries. Take care, Ashling
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Author: The Viper Friday, 14 September 2001 - 03:35 pm | |
Here is some good news. William J. Fishman's classic East End 1888 is soon to be reissued, after having been out of print for several years. It can be ordered in Britain from the following address, from the beginning of October:- 65 Hanbury Street, London. E1 5JP Please send a cheque, payable to 'Hanbury' for £20.00 Post and packing is free in the U.K. Telephone enquiries can be made to 07855-385661. Unfortunately, overseas orders are not so easy. When talking to the publishers, I was told that being a small organisation they could only accept money in Pounds Sterling, either by cheque (I think that's a 'check' to some of you) or by an international money order. Postage and packing would have to be added, but the guy was vague about rates. He thought an extra £5 should cover postage to the U.S.A. Sorry this isn't very specific. Regards, V.
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Author: Guy Hatton Monday, 17 September 2001 - 05:42 am | |
Good news indeed, Viper! I'd urge anybody who hasn't read this book to get a copy of this most welcome reissue. It took me two years to find a second-hand copy going at a sensible price! All the Best Guy
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Author: adam wood Monday, 24 September 2001 - 03:01 pm | |
Hi all Hanbury Books have kindly donated a copy of East End 1888 as a raffle prize for this weekend's Ripper conference; the lucky winner has their copy specially signed by Bill Fishman! It could be yours for a quid! Adam
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Author: Guy Hatton Tuesday, 25 September 2001 - 06:23 am | |
...which was still more than a quid! Someone's going to be a happy, jammy s*d! Cheers Guy
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Author: Christopher T George Tuesday, 25 September 2001 - 09:43 am | |
Hi, all: Sounds as if it will be worthwhile to attend the conference just for the door prizes, as I happen to know, having donated it (!!!), that another door prize will be a copy of the book and promo CD of Jack--The Musical, the new musical by Erik Sitbon and myself, which regularly goes for $35.00 US or £24.50 sterling. The whole cast of the show will sign the book for the lucky winner. Best regards Chris George Lyricist, Jack--The Musical http://www.jack-themusical.com/
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Author: adam wood Wednesday, 26 September 2001 - 12:54 pm | |
Just to tease you a bit more, Guy, we also have a copy of William Le Queux's Things I Know About Kings, Celebrities and Crooks... from the library of N. St. Barbe Sladen, Le Queux's biographer. It contains his pencil annotations! Or how about Mysteries of Police and Crime. A General Survey of Wrongdoing and Its Pursuit by Major Arthur Griffiths (1899. 2 vols). And to think, I can't buy a ticket! Adam
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Author: Guy Hatton Thursday, 27 September 2001 - 05:37 am | |
D'oh!
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