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Sergeant Stephen White
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Sergeant Stephen White
Author: Simon Owen
Wednesday, 17 January 2001 - 09:16 am |        | Is anyone able to contact Bill Wadell , Scotland Yard's curator of the Black Museum ?
Simon |
Author: Stewart P Evans
Wednesday, 17 January 2001 - 02:48 pm | | | Bill Waddell has not been curator of the Black Museum for years now, he's retired, the new curator is John Ross. |
Author: Simon Owen
Wednesday, 17 January 2001 - 05:25 pm | | The reason I ask is because I came across this last night , in my research : its from " Sickert and the Ripper Crimes " by Overton Fuller , p.118.
In the " Police Gazette " Fuller discovered an augmented description of the man seen with Eddowes just before she was murdered , a better description than that furnished by Lawende...
" I wrote to New Scotland Yard , asking if I might be furnished with the name of the witness - was it Levin or Lawende ( alternatively spelt by Inspector Swanson ) who had amplified his first statement , or somebody else ? I recieved a reply from W. Wadell, Curator of the Black Museum ; the above description was provided not by Lawende but by PC White. "
I found this suprising as it implies that a policeman also witnessed the couple in Church Passage ! And was it Stephen White who interviewed Packer and who may have seen the Ripper , if the People's Journal article of 26th September 1919 is to be believed ?
If somebody is able to get in touch with either John Ross or Bill Wadell , I wonder if they could ask - who it was furnished the " Police Gazette " description ? And if it was a PC White , does this refer to Sergeant Stephen White or somebody else ?
The " Police Gazette " description goes as follows :
" ...a man , aged 30 , height 5"7 or 8 inches, complexion fair , moustache fair , medium build , dress pepper and salt coloured loose jacket , grey cloth cap with peak of same material , reddish neckerchief tied in a knot , appearance of a sailor. Information respecting this man to be forwarded to Inspector MacWilliam of Old Jewry , London , E. "
Simon |
Author: Stewart P Evans
Wednesday, 17 January 2001 - 10:52 pm | | | The description is that furnished by Lawende. The Stephen White story has been discussed at length in the past and is largely a press fiction. There is no information on the murders at the Crime Museum that is not in the public domain. This is another case of confusion of secondary sources. Stephen White did not see the killer. |
Author: Simon Owen
Saturday, 26 May 2001 - 11:12 am | | | Since we have been on the subject of ' Steve ' White , is anyone able to furnish any information about the man other than from the obvious sources ? Eg census records , police records etc |
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