Author: Penelope Vilela
Friday, 06 October 2000 - 01:48 pm |        |
| Did anyone ever check into the bank accounts of the officials in charge of the JTR investigation? Did any of these officials receive land, promotions, etc. after the investigation was stopped. Did anyone ever investigate the officials at all? I know some of them retired after the case. I just wonder if there could be a money trail to follow? I believe the only way we will get any answers in this case is to investigate the police and the officials in charge. |
Author: Jeff Bloomfield
Wednesday, 14 February 2001 - 09:50 pm | |
I don't know if you are aware of this, but in 1877
there was a major corruption scandal involving
Scotland Yard. An above average conman named
Henry Benson bribed at least three of the leading
detectives at the Yard: Chief Inspector Druscovitch, Chief Inspector Meiklejohn, and
Inspector William Palmer. They were tipping him
off about a high level investigation into Benson's swindling of a French Countess. When
Benson was captured and sentenced to a prison
term, he and his partner William Kerr testified
against the three Inspectors, who ended up going
to prison. A fourth Yard official was exonerated
(barely) but had to resign. Corruption was not
unknown at the Yard, though the 1877 case was
glaring in becoming so well known. Compare it
to the monotonous decade after decade scandals of
the New York City Police Department. |
Author: Diana
Wednesday, 14 February 2001 - 09:53 pm | |
| Are you suggesting that JTR paid someone off and that was why it was never solved? |
Author: Jeff Bloomfield
Wednesday, 14 February 2001 - 10:00 pm | |
I am not doing so. The lady who started the thread suggested that an investigation into the
bank accounts and land ownership of policemen
and officials who handled the case and retired
early is worth examining. Possibly it is.
All I did was to show that only a decade earlier
the Yard was shaken by a serious corruption
scandal. It could be possible that bribes were
used - so it would not be a bad idea to examine
the estates of the police and officials involved,
and see if they grew after 1888. |
Author: Diana
Thursday, 15 February 2001 - 06:54 pm | |
| Not impossible, certainly, but I seem to recall quite a few months back there was an effort on this site to raise money to buy a grave marker for Abberline who apparently has none. If Abberline had been bribed I would think his estate could have afforded a headstone. |
Author: Jon
Thursday, 15 February 2001 - 07:48 pm | |
To suggest that police took bribes in the Whitechapel murder investigation is to elevate these crimes to such heights as is completely unwarrented. Is this suggestion a fringe consideration in the 'Royal Conspiracy' theory?
Who would pay 'big money' to get away with murdering a few streetwalkers? these women were of no consequence to anyone in power.
Regards, Jon |
Author: Christopher T George
Thursday, 15 February 2001 - 09:32 pm | |
Hi all:
To follow up on what Jon has said, I have to agree that if you are talking payoffs, you are talking about a killer who was well off. The man who committed these crimes almost certainly was not rich and may have been a nobody whose name we will never know.
Best regards
Chris George |
Author: Jeff Bloomfield
Saturday, 17 February 2001 - 12:35 pm | |
Jon's point is well taken, if we are thinking in
terms of big, big money. But bribes can be small
too. Moreover, I found this of interest:
I have a useful tool, HAYDN'S DICTIONARY OF
DATES (1893 ed.). It is a handy chronology, and
frequently gives information that is unavailable
at fast notice (this doesn't mean it can be wrong,
but it usually isn't). Under POLICE, page 758,
col.2:
"Charges against police of levying blackmail
blackmail made by W.S.Caine and others in July
1887; investigated and declared not proved by
Sir Charles Warren...Feb. 1888"
Warren as head of the police had his hands full
with bad publicity due to the Trafalgar Square
Riots of the previous year, and the arrest of
Miss Cass for soliciting (she wasn't). Although
they were lauded for the good work they did
(generally speaking) during the Gold Jubilee
celebration of 1887, the police were being hammered. Actually, the Ripper's escapades were
like the last straw.
But the point is that an accusation of police
corruption was made in 1887, and Warren did have
to investigate it. It might be worth while to
dig into it.
Jeff |
Author: Jon
Saturday, 17 February 2001 - 01:58 pm | |
Jeff
Corruption is a fact of life in all ages, Police were taking bribes, being found drunk on duty, beating up dubious suspects, paying little attention to their duties.....same as today. What you need to do is not raise an unrelated accusation, but raise up a related instance to support your case.
The same people throw doubt on P.C. Long due to him being dismissed for being drunk on duty 9-10 months later, but this may have no bearing on the Eddowes case at all.
Regards, Jon |
Author: Jon
Saturday, 17 February 2001 - 01:58 pm | |
| Ooops.....duplicate |
Author: David Bailey
Tuesday, 12 February 2002 - 06:37 pm | |
I have heard from a very reliable source, That the chief of police at the time of the case was bribed by the home secretary not to reveal the identity of the killer, as he had links to the royal family. The chief of police was threatened that his life would be put in jepordy should he reveal the identity of the killer, the chief of police left the country and became a missionary as to stay in London was too risky.
This may sound far fetched but the person who told me has nothing to gain by lying they do not wish to go public as they feel it is still too sensitive.
This is a line definatly worth investigating as there are people who can testify to this cover up I believe it to be true.
If anyone can verify the chief of police/high ranking police officer leaving to become a missionary after the killings plus background check into the home secretary of the times and his dealings with the royals it may prove fruitful.
I am sorry I am not more forthcoming with details but the person who told me this was a little sketchy it is a family secret though I am sure others must know. Those related to high ranking met officers even to the home secretary and some members of the royal family. I am not sugesting that it was a royal who was Jack, just they were some how involved in this scandal which the government, or home secretary, I do not think the priminster was involved, helped cover up.
100% I am not making this up nor is the person who told me. Do some research and see where the trail leads. |
Author: Jack Traisson
Tuesday, 12 February 2002 - 07:57 pm | |
Let me guess: a nice, but rambling, old man calling himself Joseph Sickert told you. Don't worry, the secret's safe with me.
Cheers,
John |
Author: Jon
Tuesday, 12 February 2002 - 09:09 pm | |
David
An unamed source is of little value here.
If I hazzard a guess that none of the known chiefs of police moved abroad to become a missionary, what would that do to the credibility of your source?.
There was a 'chief' of the City police, Commissioner Colonel Sir James Fraser, Acting Commissioner Major Sir Henry Smith, a 'chief' of the Met. police, Assistant Commissioner Sir Robert Anderson, Met. police Commissioner Sir Charles Warren. Assistant Met. police Commissioner James Munro.
Assistant Chief Constable Sir Melville Macnaghten.
The Home Secretary was Sir Henry Matthews.
Could you clarify what office your 'chief' actually held ?.
I should think it reasonably easy to find if any one of the above named officers have served time as a missionary following the murders.
Question your source David.
On the other hand we have several of the above named 'chiefs' sharing their suspicions with the public as to whom they thought the killer was.
None of them appeared to fear retribution.
Regards, Jon |
Author: Christopher T George
Wednesday, 13 February 2002 - 02:56 am | |
Hi, David:
A very reliable source has told me that there is no police official who was involved in the case and who corresponds to the circumstances that you describe. So you can discount that story as being worthless! Sorry.
Chris |
Author: Thomas Neagle
Saturday, 16 February 2002 - 08:42 am | |
David
I believe I have the information you mentioned. Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police James Monro was the police chief after the resignation of Charles Warren in 1888. He was the police chief from 1888-90 (the Jack the Ripper murders went from 1888-91). James Monro resigned in 1890. He founded and ran the Ranaghat Christian Medical Mission in Darjeeling India from 1890-1903.
Any more information you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. |
