Author: Alegria [Moderator]
Monday, 04 November 2002 - 07:40 am |        |
Thanks and welcome to our newbie John who reminded me I needed to re-create this thread.
Ally |
Author: Esther Wilson
Monday, 04 November 2002 - 06:14 pm | |
Welcome to the board John. I'm still a newbie myself but these folks make you feel so comfortable. Enjoy!
Esther |
Author: Stuart
Tuesday, 05 November 2002 - 11:37 am | |
Hi all.
Looking forward to some interesting chats here.
My candidate is George Chapman at present...but who knows eh?
I've been into JtR stuff for years now (books tv films etc). I though that I'd get into it a bit more seriously though.
Catch you all around. |
Author: ruben van rooden
Friday, 08 November 2002 - 09:42 am | |
well, i am also new over here, i hope to have a good time over here
regards,
from hell (ruben) |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Friday, 08 November 2002 - 07:02 pm | |
Howdy everyone!
I'm new to the boards, but I've been lurking on the site for a while now. Just finally got into it a bit more seriously - writing a dissertation for my graduate Crisis Management class on the Metropolitan Police handling of the Ripper murders. Makes me want to visit London again.
I'm from Washington, DC. I wonder if there are any people from these boards around here? We should start a local Cloak and Dagger. 
B |
Author: Spryder
Friday, 08 November 2002 - 07:15 pm | |
Hi Brian -
Welcome to the boards. Actually, I'm one of several people here on the Casebook who live in the Metropolitan D.C. area. We don't have a local Cloak and Dagger Club, per se, but we do have biannual Ripper conferences in the Baltimore/Washington area, every other April. The next one is in 2004. We'll be publishing more information on the 2004 Conference in the coming months. If you're interested in attending, drop an email to Judy Stock at needler@ntelos.net, and she'll put you on the distribution list once the schedule and pricing is ironed out.
Would love to read your dissertation once you're done with it, by the way.
- Stephen |
Author: Ally
Friday, 08 November 2002 - 07:27 pm | |
Hello Brian,
Welcome to the boards. I also live in that general area. What college are you attending? I was going to be going to Gallaudet for my MA but decided I'd rather be disemboweled with a fish fork than deal with DC traffic.
Ally (who is even now dodging writing a paper) |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Friday, 08 November 2002 - 10:05 pm | |
Steven,
I'll make sure you get some. Right now I'm up to my eyeballs in the research - thank God for Stewart Evan's Companion, I've got to thank him for it - and as soon as it gets done and I'm happy with it (I've rewritten the Met structure section three times), I'll send it along.
I will definitely send Judy an email, and if you guys need any help setting it up, let me know.
Ally,
I'm at George Washington U., in the Political Management program - I went to undergrad here too. Will be done next December.
I'm stuck - I've got this project on the Ripper for Crisis Management, and I've got to write a commencement speech for my Speechwriting class. I love writing but this is a lot at once!
And with all of this writing, I am of course going to a party.
B |
Author: Esther Wilson
Saturday, 09 November 2002 - 09:27 am | |
Welcome to the board Brian and Ruben!! Hope you have a great time here.
Esther |
Author: Vicki
Saturday, 09 November 2002 - 08:14 pm | |
Welcome to the board, Brian, Esther, Ruben, and anyone else who may have quietly slipped on board.
I, too, am fairly new.
There is plenty to discuss here.
Vicki |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Saturday, 09 November 2002 - 10:53 pm | |
Vicky, Esther, and all...
Thanks so much for making me feel so welcome. I already feel like part of the family.
Now back to my damn paper. Sir Charles and I are becoming such close friends.
B |
Author: Garen Ewing
Monday, 18 November 2002 - 02:28 pm | |
Hello I'm new! I first got interested in the Whitechapel murders in roughly 1987 when I did an illustration for a short story based on the Ripper. I wanted to know how the fiction tied in with the facts so started reading bits and bobs. Since then my interest has waxed and waned.
Being an illustrator I have recently awoken to Cornwell's book and Sickert theory and am very concerned about her art assumptions which I think are wrong. Not to mention all the other 'facts'!
I also like fiction related to the Ripper and really like Alan Moore's From Hell (the comic story much more than the film), especially his 'Gull-catchers' appendix. I'm not a 'Gull the Ripper' advocate though I like the story, and am, anyway, very open minded about the whole affair!
I have been lurking on these boards for a while and have learnt a huge amount from the posters here, and look forward to learning a huge amount more.
I'm not very good at being a regular poster, but I always read others' with great interest.
Thanks, and best wishes -
Garen. |
Author: Blue Violet
Monday, 18 November 2002 - 03:33 pm | |
Hi there, I'm new too! I've been lurking for a while & had forgotten how fascinating the Ripper case can be, especially with all the new research going on these past few years.
Anyway, hello to everyone!
-Blue Violet |
Author: Ally
Monday, 18 November 2002 - 05:05 pm | |
Welcome to Garet and Blue Violet.
Glad to have you guys de-lurk yourselves and dive in.
Regards,
Ally |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Monday, 18 November 2002 - 11:20 pm | |
Welcome guys!
I love seeing new blood, as it makes me feel less new.
B |
Author: Dan Norder
Tuesday, 19 November 2002 - 07:27 am | |
Welcome, all.
Blue Violet... is that meant as a reference to the song MJK was singing on the night of her death?
http://www.casebook.org/victims/mary_jane_kelly.violets.html
Just going for potential ripper references even when they probably aren't appropriated...
Dan |
Author: Esther Wilson
Tuesday, 19 November 2002 - 10:17 am | |
Welcome to all the new members. I'm just starting to come out of my shell of shyness and post more. Looking forward to your posts. Enjoy!
Esther |
Author: Blue Violet
Wednesday, 20 November 2002 - 04:01 pm | |
Hi there. Thanks to everyone for the nice welcome.
Dan- Yes, you're right about the song reference! I'm not too terribly original when it comes to making up screen names. |
Author: Ky
Thursday, 21 November 2002 - 02:03 am | |
HI everyone,
I'm new to the boards. I've been skulking here for awhile and thought I'd occasionally chime in. I'm really more of a reader than a writer!
Ky |
Author: Dan Norder
Thursday, 21 November 2002 - 03:34 am | |
Ky,
Welcome aboard. Readers are welcome too (though skulking sounds like you are up to no good, LOL).
Blue Violet,
I like the name, it works. I certainly can't claim to be original with my posting name here, so I don't worry about anyone else's.
Dan |
Author: Ally
Thursday, 21 November 2002 - 07:56 am | |
Hello Ky,
Welcome to the boards! Hope you have a good time lurking about. 
Ally |
Author: Esther Wilson
Thursday, 21 November 2002 - 11:01 am | |
Welcome to the boards Ky! Enjoy
Esther |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Thursday, 21 November 2002 - 06:38 pm | |
Howdy Ky!
Welcome aboard. Don't lurk too much though...people might start thinking you're up to something.
B |
Author: Christopher T George
Friday, 22 November 2002 - 10:15 am | |
Welcome to Ky and Blue Velvet.
The following applies to internet e-mail news groups but could apply equally here.
THE QUESTION:
How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?
ANSWER:
1,331:
1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers
156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list.
41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list.
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs.
3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.
33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."
12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." -- Since I like puns I expecially like this one
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave
it here.
143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
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Author: Barbara Heilchuck
Saturday, 23 November 2002 - 01:43 pm | |
Greetings to all.
This is my first venture on to this site, or any other Jack the Ripper chat site. I am overwhelmed by the activity here, if not somewhat intimidated. I have read a lot of talk about Cornwell’s new book and although it may not be the best way to introduce myself, I’ll take the risk and air my own thoughts. This seems to be the proper place to do that.
I cannot say that I am as well versed as many of you on this subject. The Jack the Ripper mystery has always intrigued me. I have read far more than the average history buff on the topic so I suppose I cannot be considered completely ignorant. I am cautious in my opinions on the issue; my choice for a handbook is The Complete History of Jack the Ripper by Philip Sugden. With that said I will jump to the core of my posting.
What you may think of Patricia Cornwell, as a fictional author is not at issue in her new book, Jack the Ripper, A Portrait of a Killer. I finished it the other night after several months of anticipation. It is her first attempt at a historical thesis. To this end I must agree with many of you that she has proposed several ideas. Unfortunately she doesn’t always back them up with fact, but far too often with possibilities or probabilities. Although they may be intriguing they are not in anyway evidentiary. She is not Barbara Tuchman.
What she is very versed in, what she knows extremely well, is crime. I will not go into detail as to her credits along these lines, look in a bibliography or check out her web site to get the details, it is enough it to say that she has a remarkable knowledge in this area. There has been multitudes of historians, true crime authors and "Ripperologists" who have covered this topic, nearly all of which have zero experience in criminal investigation or science. She lends an insight and perspective that exists because of her experience with criminal investigation, her understanding of criminal behavior and patterns conspired within them, forensic pathology (yes I know she is not a forensic pathologist), and her accessibility to experts in those fields.
She makes the statement, and backs it with fact, that the Ripper was not from the medical field. Now I know there are those that have already come to that conclusion, those who think opposite, and those that vassalate on the fence. To my satisfaction I think she has given a definitive answer to that question. An answer no historian, or armchair detective, or even a typical police detective has the background or experience to dispute.
If this is all that is gained in her endeavor it was while worth her efforts. I suggest you all read the book before you rip it apart (no pun intended) and try to take from it what she can truly contribute to the case, a new and criminally knowledgeable perspective.
That’s it. That’s all. Thanks for taking the time to read yet another opinion on a hot topic. I know I’ll come across new ideas and fresh perspectives here.
Barbara |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Saturday, 23 November 2002 - 11:49 pm | |
Barbara,
Excellent first post! Welcome aboard.
I agree with a lot of what you said, and I intend to read Cornwell's book as soon as I can steal a copy, or get it from the library.
While I don't dispute that she knows crime, I think there are other authors in the field, such as Stewart Evans (a retired cop) and other non-fiction writers, such as John Douglas (former FBI criminal profiler) who have a deeper and more hands on experience with crime and criminal science. So I don't know if she has a monopoly on semi-informed opinion.
I'll have to read the book to get her arguments on why she doesn't feel that the Ripper had medical knowledge (although I tend to lean that way myself). What does she use to back up her opinion on that?
B |
Author: Richard P. Dewar
Sunday, 24 November 2002 - 02:21 am | |
Hi Barbara,
Welcome to the boards. I think your post is very reasonable and sensible and would agree with just about everything but one remark.
You have suggested that most of the researchers in the case have little criminal investigative history or science training. That is true of many people involved in the case but there are notable exceptions.
Two of the more respected authors on the case, Donald Rumbelow and Stewart Evans, were formerly police officers. Indeed, Stewart Evans did investigate crimes (Rumbelow may have, I am not certain). Nick Warren, who publishes a quarterly on the case, is a surgeon who has lent his expertise to interpreting autopsy reports over the years.
I do not wish to minimize Ms Cornwell's expertise and background, as has been done too frequently in my opinion from some on these boards. However, I think she has been misleading, intentionally or unintentionally, in suggesting that those who have written on the case are only historians or crime buffs.
Regards,
Rich |
Author: Ally
Sunday, 24 November 2002 - 05:35 am | |
Barbara,
Welcome to the boards and don't be intimidated. We rarely tar and feather newbies anymore..well hardly ever, one or two at the most.
Ally |
Author: Dan Norder
Sunday, 24 November 2002 - 08:34 am | |
Welcome Barbara,
I don't wish to minimize Cornwell's background, as I don't think it makes that much difference in trying to determine if her theory is correct or not, but I do have to say that it sounds like she is exaggerating her knowledge for the sake of selling books, and the public is buying into it.
She worked as a crime reporter, sure, but that's not the same as being a crime investigator. She hypes the fact that she worked for a medical examiner, but, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe she did so as a secretary or some other minor support staff. Adding author of fictional crime books still doesn't add up to any sort of level that could make her claims of expert status legitimate.
Many ripperologist authors have superior practical experience in criminology, psychology and so forth. Some were named above, but I'd also like to add Scott Medine to the list, as he has exactly the sort of real-life crime investigation experience that Cornwell wishes she had.
Personally I'm of the opinion that a theory has to make sense on its own, regardless of the background of the person pushing it. Lots of police actually involved in an investigation from day one never catch a serial killer, and it seems unlikely to me that someone could step into a 125 year old cold case with the vast majority of the records missing and no way to follow up with witnesses and claim they know who did it -- especailly when other experts point to someone else.
Beyond that, egos often get in the way regardless of one's background. As one drastic real world example, several members of the public knew who the Son of Sam killer was but could not convince the police -- and it was a well-timed parking ticket and not listening to the untrained public that led police to finally capture him. The fact that Cornwell chose her suspect *before* she started any investigation is a clear indication that it's her ego and not any supposed crime background leading to her conclusions.
I do think Cornwell is on the right track in looking for a serial killer instead of some royal or occult conspiracy (well, duh), and I also think she is absolutely correct that the killer didn't need any medical training (I'm personally shocked anyone still thinks otherwise), but pretty much everything else she comes up with after that looks more like a carnival than a criminal investigation to me.
Disagreements are part and parcel to this board and ripperology in general, so don't take my comments personally. If you'd like to discuss Cornwell further I recommend popping onto the Cornwell thread:
http://forum.casebook.org/cgi-bin/show.cgi?2/4229
Welcome to the eternal battle of egos and opinions that is ripperology. :-)
Dan |
Author: Esther Wilson
Sunday, 24 November 2002 - 09:56 am | |
Welcome to the board Barbara!! I'm sure you will get along just fine here.
I have just received Cornwell's book as a gift and am slowly starting to make my way through it. I'm making mental notes as I go so I can explain my views on her work but as of yet haven't gotten to far. Enjoy!!
Esther |
Author: Jack Haley
Monday, 25 November 2002 - 10:58 pm | |
Hello everyone.
I am not actually new to the boards because I have been lurking here for a couple of years. However, this is my first post.
The Ripper case and this site are fascinating. I can not truly say that I have a favourite suspect, but I do find David Cohen intriguing. I, and I suspect many others, wish there was more information about him.
Take care
Jack
ps A special Hello! to the Canadians on the boards. |
Author: Ally
Tuesday, 26 November 2002 - 06:37 am | |
All the lurkers coming out of the woodwork lately..maybe we need a stronger spray?
Just kidding, Jack. Welcome to the Boards and glad you finally decided to jump in. If you've been hanging around for years, you already know we're nuts so you get no slack at all.
Ally |
Author: Jack Haley
Tuesday, 26 November 2002 - 10:14 pm | |
Hi Ally
Thanks for the welcome. I've read so many posts by the regulars that I feel as though I could write psychological profiles of all of them.....but I won't.
I will keep reading & try to make some contributions to the boards.
Thanks again
Jack |
Author: Ally
Wednesday, 27 November 2002 - 06:21 am | |
Uh oh...you aren't one of those are you?
*Ally whips the welcome mat out from under Jack's feet.*
I swear I've been taking all my meds, you can go now, bye-bye.
 |
Author: Caroline Morris
Wednesday, 27 November 2002 - 07:46 am | |
Hi Jack,
You can write mine anytime. 
Love,
Caz |
Author: Philip C. Dowe
Wednesday, 27 November 2002 - 09:13 am | |
Hi Jack,
lets compare notes :-)
Yours,
Philip |
Author: Esther Wilson
Wednesday, 27 November 2002 - 11:30 am | |
Welcome to the boards Jack!! And hello to you from a Canadian!
Esther |
Author: Jack Haley
Wednesday, 27 November 2002 - 11:55 pm | |
Not one of those Ally...just pulling your leg.
Hello Caz & Philip. Nice of you to say hi.
Esther.....Canadian here as well. I'm near London(ON)
Jack |
Author: Lily
Thursday, 28 November 2002 - 02:11 am | |
Hullo! Another newbie to add to the whipping post...I've been lurking around for about a month. Stumbled across the site and was up until 4 am completely mesmerized by the message boards; in a tribute to the various levels of cattiness the conversations reach (ME-OW!) I have opted to use my cat's name. My first question is to wonder if SOMEONE will tell me what Cornwall's "definitive answer" is to the speculation that the ripper is NOT from the medical profession. I will not be purchasing the book (I can't even manage to read her fiction, because I think she is a crap writer). My first statement will be to assure you that I will be a properly modest newbie and will not be proposing any pet theories anytime soon- I am content to admit that I simply don't know enough to attempt it, but am excited to learn from the expertise of others (this should prove that not all Yanks are like Cornwall...)
Holla back. |
Author: brad mcginnis
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 01:24 am | |
| Hi Lily, and welcome to the boards. You will find the more you learn, the less you KNOW. Its a ripper thing. Ms. Cornwell has got caught up in it and is shooting blanks. Your theory is as good as hers, and her justification is "Because I said so". Have fun and enjoy the site, a lot of good folks post here.....Brad |
Author: Esther Wilson
Friday, 29 November 2002 - 11:29 am | |
Jack--I'm in Kitchener (ON). We are practically neighbors.
Welcome to the board Lily!
Esther |
Author: Jack Haley
Saturday, 30 November 2002 - 08:16 pm | |
Hi Esther
How are things up the 401? I hope you do not have to travel that highway on a night like this.
Jack |
Author: Esther Wilson
Monday, 02 December 2002 - 07:42 pm | |
Hi Jack--things are alright thanks. No, I don't travel that road unless absolutely necessary. We have finally had our snow though. And it's going down to -21 tonight!! Brrrrr.
Esther |
Author: Paula Wolff
Tuesday, 03 December 2002 - 08:23 am | |
Esther-
I don't know where you live but for a Texan who hardly ever sees snow, would you send some my way? I love the stuff but very seldom get to see it. Our winters are warmer than they used to be and we don't get much of the white stuff anymore. I can remember as a teen when we got 13" and that was excitement. And -21. WOW! I'm impressed but then strange things impress me.
Thanks, and always enjoy your messages on the boards.
Paula |
Author: Esther Wilson
Thursday, 05 December 2002 - 09:41 am | |
Hi Paula--and thanks for your kind words. I live in Ontario, Canada and if I could send some snow your way I would. Take care and chat soon.
Esther |
Author: Ally
Thursday, 05 December 2002 - 09:47 am | |
It's snowing here! I am a transplanted Floridian who never saw the white stuff until two years ago so I still get a thrill. It's up to my shins and my dogs are digging snow tunnels in it and white from their nose to their toes.
Thank God for snow and work is closed! Woo hoo.. |
Author: Jarrod Blasius
Saturday, 07 December 2002 - 12:01 am | |
| Hello all and here's yet another lurker who has decided to join the fray! While I have been known by close friends to be an obsessive sort, I'd say Jack has been more of an oscillating fascenation since early childhood, when I recall Knight's theory first appeared - I believe I was 4 or thereabouts as I'd learned to read just well enough to follow a pretty detailed newspaper article discussing Knight's book - and the story of the events of Autumn 1888 never failed to attract my attention ever since. I chanced upon a copy of Rumbelow's book during my first or second year of high school, and it's on this my understanding of the facts of the case are largely based. Other interests and a desire to read only those works that meet the standards of Rumbelow's book have prevented me from delving too deeply into the literature, however, so it was with some dubious interest that I found this site last spring, not long after aquiring a computer of my own. My doubts were soon calmed and I have had a great time perusing this site's many avenues of information and argument in the past eight months. Now, for whatever it's worth, I feel ready to add my two cents' wherever I think I have something interesting to say. Hopefully, I won't embarass myself too much. . . |
Author: Ally
Saturday, 07 December 2002 - 05:57 am | |
Welcome to the chaos and glad you delurked yourself, add your two cents or five even. And don't worry about it, most of the posters here embarass themselves on a daily basis.
Myself included of course,
Ally |
Author: James Wilson
Saturday, 07 December 2002 - 04:48 pm | |
Hi I'm a new to the site.I have been in the chat room several times though, and was very impressed with the knowledgable views of the sites community.
Well in the words of Alan Partridge its a big Ahaa to everyone,"AHAA" |
Author: James Wilson
Saturday, 07 December 2002 - 04:50 pm | |
| P.S.Hi Ally |
Author: judith stock
Sunday, 08 December 2002 - 12:47 am | |
Welcome to James and De-lurked Jarrod. If you spend more than five nanoseconds reading various posts you will see that what Ally says is true... most posters embarass themselves on a regular basis...for THAT, we can be grateful! There's nothing quite so levelling as saying "Eddowes" and meaning to say "Kelly" and then having to explain yourself fourteen times! Kind of puts everything into perspective..ya' know?
Welcome, and enjoy. You will meet all sorts here, and learn more than you ever thought there was to know about this case. Of course, there are several of us who KNOW the answer to the secret (just ask David Radka), some who are willing to share the secret with everyone, and one or two who aren't. So come on in...the water is mostly fine, except when it isn't!!
J |
Author: Esther Wilson
Sunday, 08 December 2002 - 08:49 am | |
Hello and welcome to the board Jarrod and James!
Esther |
Author: Ally
Sunday, 08 December 2002 - 09:25 am | |
Hiya James,
Glad to see you here as well as in the chatroom.
ally |
Author: Nicole Robinson
Sunday, 08 December 2002 - 11:24 pm | |
Hi all,
Yet another newbie to the boards here. I will give you a little background on myself, i.e. how I came to be interested in the case, etc. I watched a few movies dealing with the JtR murders, mind you, most have been fictional(From Hell). But these movies inspired me to educate myself and try to write a book on the case. Anything you can tell me would be great, and I have found this site to be, by far, some of the most outstanding information I have come across yet. It's been a very educational experience, and one of ongoing studies.
Thanks for your time all,
Nickie |
Author: Dan Norder
Monday, 09 December 2002 - 12:23 am | |
Hi Nickie,
Welcome to the boards. Don't mind the nuttiness that takes over some of us from time to time.
I hope your plans to write a book aren't motivated by money, as the field doesn't make anyone rich. Were you thinking of something nonfictional or fictional?
Dan
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Author: Jon
Monday, 09 December 2002 - 12:53 am | |
Hi Nichole
I think its true to say all the movies ever made about Jack have been fictional (not including TV specials). If movies have been your only inspiration then quite possibly your interest in the case has a sensational aspect to it.
Its unfortunate that you come so late to ask for input as the most truthfully informative site devoted to JtR has recently been defunct.
Casebook Publications devoted itself to facts alone rather than general interest, as with this site. Its an unfortunate loss to all as well as those newcomers to the fold.
The more you study, and learn, I think the more you may become aware that the genuine few Ripper murders, as opposed to the more numerous Whitechapel murders, were more of a mundane nature than the sensational plots promoted through the movies.
Welcome......and happy hunting. |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Monday, 09 December 2002 - 03:57 pm | |
Greetings fellow Ripperologists,
Another newcomer in your midst.
I have followed these boards with interest for just over 2 years now ,although I have been interested in our mutual friend for 20 years.I hope that I may be able to contribute something of use from time to time.
Happy hunting,
DrPox. |
Author: Esther Wilson
Monday, 09 December 2002 - 06:46 pm | |
Hello and welcome Nicole and Trevor! It's great to see you here.
Esther |
Author: Nicole Robinson
Monday, 09 December 2002 - 11:49 pm | |
Hi Dan and everyone,
Thanks for the warm welcome. I just wanted to take the time to answer the questions Dan asked about my book. Hope you all don't mind bearing with me. I am writing a fictional account based on the facts of the murders. The whole case fascinates me...the time period, forensics (or lack thereof), police technique, and the fact that "Jack"'s identity was never discovered. I am not hoping to get rich, I just enjoy writing in my spare time. However, this is the first time I will attempt to have something I have written published. I'm doing this in my spare time, which is too little, so it will probably take quite some time. Hopefully, I will get some useful information and get to post what I learn on the boards.
Thanks for listening,
Nickie |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Tuesday, 10 December 2002 - 04:08 pm | |
Thank you for your warm welcome,Esther,it's nice to feel wanted !
Nicole,Good Luck with your book.
Yours ever,
DrPox. |
Author: Dan Norder
Tuesday, 10 December 2002 - 07:01 pm | |
Nickie,
Good luck with the book. It sounds interesting.
Trevor,
Welcome to the boards. The DrPox name sounds a little ominous, but then the crowd here is a wide assortment of personalities so you should fit right in no matter what the nickname is intended to mean.
Dan
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Author: Ally
Tuesday, 10 December 2002 - 08:55 pm | |
Welcome to both Nicole and Trevor,
Hope that you two are enjoying your tour of the boards and see you around!
Ally |
Author: Caroline Morris
Wednesday, 11 December 2002 - 05:20 am | |
Hi Dan,
Take a look at Trevor's profile - he's a venereologist, hence his nickname.
Come to Croydon, Trev, if you're ever short of work in Beds. You'll be sure of a huge welcome.
Welcome all newcomers by the way, and enjoy the mayhem and mystery - it's sometimes murder too.
Love,
Caz |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Wednesday, 11 December 2002 - 08:27 pm | |
Hello Caz,
Your investigative skills are first class in working out my nickname.I am also Known as Arthur , but no one , (least of all me ),can remember why !
I am acquainted with Croydon ,and have several collegues who work(ed) there.
At present I am trying to utilise my clinical skills in deciding whether or not the "Lusk" Kidney and letter are genuine.As this thread is active on another board I am trying to pluck up the courage to post my (humble) deductions there.
Best wishes,
DrPox a.k.a Arthur |
Author: Christopher-Michael DiGrazia
Thursday, 12 December 2002 - 03:27 pm | |
A very belated welcome to all new posters on the boards!
Dr Pox - if you're doing some thinking about the Lusk Kidney I invite (ahem) you to check out my dissertation Another Look at the Lusk Kidney. Personally, I feel the weight of evidence is against it being genuine, but I always enjoy a good debate on the topic. The article is somewhere in the Casebook. . .I suppose if you plug my name into the search engine, it will pop up eventually.
Cheers,
Christopher-Michael |
Author: Dan Norder
Thursday, 12 December 2002 - 06:00 pm | |
And a good dissertation it is. The site has a wealth of info that can be hard to track down sometimes, but the dissertations are all under the link of the same name on the front page.
Here's a direct link to the page:
http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-cmdlusk.html
Just so nobody has to go looking...
Dan
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Author: Stuart
Friday, 13 December 2002 - 06:20 am | |
Hi Trevor,
I'm new too, and I've written (for myself) a piece on the murders, my thoughts, who it may and may not be. But I'm too - not scared - but wary of posting it. Basically it's just the opinions of someone (me) who knows nothing compared to some of the people here, and I get the feeling that even if I came out with the most brilliant observations yet (unlikely) people would think "Ach. What does he know. He's only been here 5 minutes".
I could be wrong.
I've always thought that some "Ripperologists" are so involved in the case that they get a kind of blindness. For example they may say "I reckon Mr X is JTR". Someone points out "Ahem. Er...they were actually in prison somewhere else at the time, so they couldn't have been. Sorry." They reply, "Well of course they had a double/escaped then returned/prison records were false/*insert other theory here* ."
I'm not saying all do, but as a newcomer, not only have I tried to gather as much info as possible, but I've talked (bored?) my friends and colleagues with what I know. They often hit me with the obvious, that I've completely missed. In conclusion, I'd say that a newby may hit on an idea never considered before, and it may be valuable. I've read one such idea posted on this site a short while ago. can't remember the posters name.
It was about Kelly's front door being locked, and why did no-one thought to put their hand through the broken pane to lift the latch. Would YOU put your hand in there, was what the poster suggested in a fashion. I had never seen that offered anywhere, and the person offering that as a "theory" is a newby too. Good idea there.
Must go.
cheers
Stu |
Author: Christopher T George
Friday, 13 December 2002 - 10:28 am | |
Hi, Stu, Dan, and CMD:
I was just looking at the web address for your valuable dissertation on the kidney, CM, which Spry has coded as CMDLusk. Was Lusk a relative of yours then? 
All the best
Chris |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Friday, 13 December 2002 - 02:22 pm | |
Hello all,
Christopher-Michael,I read your dissertation twice and found it interesting.I plan to re-read it again tomorrow (this is how I tend to absorb information).It was certainly "Food for thought".
Medical students are certainly not above these kind of pranks,in fact in some ways this would be considered almost tame. However , these kind of pranks are almost always upon fellow students or hospital staff.
I must confess, that I have fallen into some of the traps for the unwary when pondering the "Lusk" Kidney(i.e accepting press reports as Fact etc.).
Would you accept that whoever the sender was they must have had the knowledge of how to preserve tissue (animal or Human)?
I am not necessarily implying that the sender of the letter and the murderer of Catherine Eddowes where one and the same.
I await your reply with interest.
Yours as ever,
Dr.pox (Trevor)
P.s Stuart,thank for your welcome and encouraging comments.I agree that "newbies" may ocassionaly throw new light on old mysteries,as can non-Ripperologists sometimes,(I have been known to use my aged mother for this purpose). |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Friday, 13 December 2002 - 05:11 pm | |
Trevor,
Welcome aboard! I feel as if I have been remiss in my duties as the self appointed newbie representative to the newbies on the board.
On another note, my little disseration is done and I sent it to Spryder. It's posted up in dissertations (you've got to do the "What's new" search, cause I don't think it's linked directly yet.) No new information - just a look at what the Met could have done differently to keep the Ripper crisis from spinning out of control. Hope ya'll enjoy it.
Welcome to Trevor, Nichole, Jared, James and anyone else who is new! 90% of the people on this site are awesome (like Ally, Vila, and Chris George) and we all love to see new blood out here arguing and contributing to the debate.
Well, at least I do.
B |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Friday, 13 December 2002 - 06:02 pm | |
Thanks Brian,I look forward to reading your dissertation and discussing it.
I must say how welcome I've been made to feel here.When I registered it was with some trepidation,but I really do feel amongst friends here.
Thank you to you all .
Trevor |
Author: Brian Barrett
Sunday, 15 December 2002 - 05:56 pm | |
I know that you all will find this to be A bad post, or an insane one .
I sometime think that it is myself.
Yet I must ask.
Does anyone think that JTR may be not of this EARTH. What A great way to test the body of man , but to cut it apart, and see the red parts.
Please put 822 in any E mail . |
Author: Dan Norder
Sunday, 15 December 2002 - 06:13 pm | |
Hi Brian,
Other people have in the past tried to link the rippings with alleged mutilations of cattle and other livestock. Some of those linked it to aliens, some to Satanists, and some possibly even to Goatsuckers.
As far as I know though, none of the ones pushing for aliens or goatsuckers frequent these boards, and the Satanist conspiracy types don't seem to be in any force either. If you seriously support any of those theories I believe you would find others of a similar mindset on websites dedicated specifically to those topics.
Dan
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Author: Christopher Etherington
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 09:18 am | |
Hi all
I`m a newbie, my name is Chris and I`ve been interested in this subject for about 12 years.
Like a lot of families mine has its own unlikely legend (and suspect) which triggered my interest.
I look forward to chatting with you all soon!
Love and best regards,
Chris xx |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 12:48 pm | |
Welcome aboard Chris! Have fun in our little playground.
B |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 05:56 pm | |
Hello Chris,
Welcome to the Casebook.
I look forward to your posts , especially if they concern this "family member" of yours!
You're not related to the Druitt family are you ?
Once again welcome
Regards,
Trevor (aka DrPox) |
Author: Steve L
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 10:21 pm | |
Hi Christopher,
Welcome to the boards.
I'm intrigued by the "unlikely legend (and suspect)" that you mentioned. Is this the James Henry Howse you mention in your profile? If so, can you post some details. I've never heard of this suspect before.
Regards,
Steve |
Author: Esther Wilson
Wednesday, 18 December 2002 - 10:17 am | |
Welcome to the board Chris!
Esther |
Author: John W. Whitaker
Tuesday, 31 December 2002 - 03:52 am | |
| Hello everyone. I arrived here by accident about a year ago and have been unable to leave. I find myself more concerned with the how and whys of the case than the who. I look forward to being able to discuss the small details of the with ya'll. |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Tuesday, 31 December 2002 - 03:27 pm | |
Dear John:
Welcome to the madness known as the Casebook message boards!
Warm regards,
Divia |
Author: Dan Norder
Tuesday, 31 December 2002 - 03:34 pm | |
John, I see you are posting to a number of boards now. Good to see you jumping in with both feet. Welcome and don't mind the surly folks, most of us are reasonable people, even if we don;t always act it.
And look, Divia's back! I haven't see you since the sniper was active in your area. Time to rejoin the party.
Dan
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Author: John Hacker
Tuesday, 31 December 2002 - 03:41 pm | |
Hiya John,
Welcome to the Casebook!
Divia,
Welcome back! It's good to see that you haven't abandoned us for good!
Regards,
John |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Tuesday, 31 December 2002 - 03:51 pm | |
Hi Dan and Jack:
Nope, just went from moving to the Baltimore area to getting in a very bad accident, and followed up with reality issues interfering with my internet access. Now that it is almost resolved, I'll be making more regular contributions.
It's nice to know I've been missed and thanks for the welcome back!
Warm regards,
Divia |
Author: Garry Ross
Tuesday, 31 December 2002 - 11:01 pm | |
Hello there Divia!!
I wondered where you'd vanished to - hope everything is ok and good to see you back again.
Also welcome to all the new folks.
take care,
Garry |
Author: Ally
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 08:59 am | |
Welcome to John and any other newbies I missed in my absence.
Ally |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 11:07 am | |
Hi Garry:
Well, I'd like to say that all is well here, but I can't just yet. Though it will be soon. I missed you, you monkey! Email still isn't happening, but give me time. I'll have it going ASAP so I can send you some more bad jokes.
Love,
Divia |
Author: John Sable
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 04:18 pm | |
| Hi, I'm new to the board, I have been an avid reader for a while and finally decided to join. I look forward to finding out a lot more information on JTR... |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 06:19 pm | |
Hi John,
"Seek and ye shall find"
Welcome .
Regards ,
Trevor . |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 07:20 pm | |
Greetings & salutations my fellow ripperologist my name is Dwayne A.K.A (Sparda).
I am new to this message forum, and I have been reading plenty of articles on JTR, I have been very keen on finding thee true identity of the man that lurked behind the dark shadows of londons whitechapels east end district, that he alone or possibly with other companions helped murdered 5 prostitute victims and possibly even more in thee autumn year of 1888.
I also wanted to say HAPPY NEW YEARS to all of my fellow posters & hope to make many new friends on this message forum.
Now, let the hunt begin for thee identity of JTR, happy hunting my fellow posters, I will investigate very hard with all the materials at this sites disposal and report to all of my fellow posters.
May good fortune bestow upon you all on this beginning year of 2003.
 |
Author: Garry Ross
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 07:45 pm | |
Divia,
I shall look forward to more of those bad jokes and hope things improve for you too.
Welcome to John & Dwayne too - is Dwayne the first person to spontaneously combust at the end of his first post? If so, I salute you Sir
take care
Garry |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 08:32 pm | |
Well alittle fire would never hurt gary heh heh.
Thanks for the welcome aboard buddy and welcome aboard fellow newcomer john as well. |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 09:15 pm | |
Welcome to the madness known as the Casebook message boards, Dwayne and John! Would you like a bagel?
Ah, Garry, thanks so much for the well-wishes. Goodness knows (or badness may be more my speed) that I need it. I'll let you know when I'm getting to the UK, hopefully in the next few months. It all depends on a few loose ends.
Oh, and Garry? Would you please be Mother and pour tea for the newcomers? Sadly, my wrist is still bound and painful.
Love always,
Divia |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Wednesday, 01 January 2003 - 10:14 pm | |
Ah, I would love a bagel miss divia! quite lovely indeed, nice & crispy w/melted butter and fine strawberry spread if you will love.
Thank you as well miss divia for thee warm welcome reception, I am delighted to be aboard this grand message forum with you all.
 |
Author: Christopher T George
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 06:04 am | |
Welcome John and Dwayne!
Since Jack is already roasting in Hell, a bit more fire here will not do any harm. Glad to have you with us while we sit around toasting bagels and talking about the case. 
All the best
Chris |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 08:19 am | |
Hello christopher and how are you doing?
Thanks for the welcome aboard reception my friend, and these bagels are sweet indeed.
Also I know that this famous case is more than about 116 years old, and it still goes unsolved by each years passing, but, confirming thee identity of this mad man & cold blooded killers identity is a MUST, because! we as ripperologist owe this to those victims.
Their voices scream from the grave for justice, because no matter how unfortunate these ladies were, that did not give the reason for this mad man to kill them in such a way is unspeakable, as well as it is in-humain to society.
I swear to those victims and to you all my fellow ripperologist until the day that I die I will find the identity of JTR with what casebook.org has at its disposal of clues that will lead to this killers identity once and for all.
We can do it my newest friends, do not let confusion bring you off of the track of the truth behind these killings, that is what JTR wanted to all out do to you, he wanted to cause confusion and skeptics about his horrifying deeds to these women & why they were murdered.
The truth is here before our eyes, we must put together the PIECES one bit at a time like a puzzle, then, and only then! will this nightmare truly end for us all & sentence the ripper by bringing fourth his true identity to the world.
Here Here my friends...A TOAST to a great journey ahead for us all...now lets go solve this famous case once and for all, so that those victims of this heartless creature may once and for all rest in peace. |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 10:07 am | |
Howdy John, Dwayne, and a hi to Divia, whom I've not met before, but apparently is my neighbor! (I'm in Alexandria, VA)
Nice to see all the new faces - I think when I started posting we were at like 565 members, and now we're over 650! I like to think that's because of me and my wonderful, humble personality, but it's probably more Cornwell's doing.
Anyway, howdy folks!
B |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 10:59 am | |
Hi Brian:
Sadly, I am no longer your neighbor. I had taken a leave of absence from Casebook to move to the Baltimore area. Still within driving distance but no longer in your back yard, unfortunately. I guess I'll have to update my profile, along with a new picture, hm?
Glad to hear that my bagels are receiving such a warm reception. I do love playing the gracious hostess, don't you know. Next week, I'll be serving scones with clotted cream and strawberry spread.
Warm regards,
Divia |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 12:12 pm | |
Divia,
Being a Baltimore native myself, I still consider it to be "in the neighborhood". All my family is there - I was born in the city, grew up in Glen Burnie, and I've got family there and in Linthicum near BWI.
B |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 12:32 pm | |
Hiya brian how are you doing there?
Yummy divia I cannot wait to have those scones you are making, oh boy, this sounds really good and save me 2 ay? mmmmm strawberry spread...wow, oh boy this is going to be bliss. |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 02:07 pm | |
Hi Dwayne:
Hmmm... "Bliss" is my middle name! Heheheheh....
*wuf*
Divia |
Author: Paula Wolff
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 04:51 pm | |
Dwayne and April,
Welcome to all the blood, gore, semantics and lack of semantics on this very interesting board. I am definitely a lesser light but enjoy the messages. I wait excitedly for you to "talk" to our Mr. Norder and Mr. Radka. You will learn a lot, I fear.
If we could trade those bagels for some Krisy Kreme doughnuts....
Anyway, you are certainly welcome here. See you around.
Paula |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 05:00 pm | |
Hiya paula, thanks for thee welcome aboard reception.
I look forward to the chat of Norder & Radka, I myself am a very fast learner indeed.
Also I will trade my bagel for one of them doughnuts anytime, it really doesn't matter as long as thee good ol tummy gets his fill heh heh. |
Author: Vila
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 09:46 pm | |
Hello Divia,
Always glad to meet another fan of the immortal Betty Page. And welcome back to the devine madness that is the Casebook Message Boards!
Vila |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Thursday, 02 January 2003 - 10:32 pm | |
Hello, Vila:
Ah, thank you for the welcome back... always good to hear from the other Bettie fans out there! Are you a Dita fan as well?
Warm regards,
Divia |
Author: Timsta
Friday, 03 January 2003 - 12:36 am | |
Divia:
Regarding Dita, dunno, couldn't get the wrapper open.
Nice to see you back, btw.
Regards
Timsta |
Author: Esther Wilson
Friday, 03 January 2003 - 10:14 am | |
Welcome to all of the new members who have joined over the holiday season.
Esther |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Friday, 03 January 2003 - 11:45 am | |
Dear Timsta:
I meant Dita Von Teese, you nut.
Thanks for the wb!
*smooch*
Divia |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Saturday, 04 January 2003 - 10:25 am | |
| Hey thanks esther, glad to be aboard. |
Author: Skip Hardin
Sunday, 05 January 2003 - 03:56 pm | |
Greetings I have followed the posting and articles on The Casebook for quite some time, and, thought it was time to get an account and maybe participate a little. I am interested in just about anything related to Victorian London, particularly the East End and Seven Dials area.
Skip Hardin
Atlanta, GA
shardin@attbi.com |
Author: John Hacker
Sunday, 05 January 2003 - 06:37 pm | |
Hiya Skip,
Welcome to the Casebook!
Regards,
John Hacker |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Sunday, 05 January 2003 - 08:40 pm | |
Howdy Skip!
Welcome aboard.
B |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Monday, 06 January 2003 - 08:14 am | |
Welcome skip.
Glad to have you with us!
DH |
Author: Scott E. Medine
Monday, 06 January 2003 - 01:49 pm | |
Hi Skip,
You are the fourth Georgian in the Atlanta/Athens area to join the boards.
Peace,
Scott |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Monday, 06 January 2003 - 05:06 pm | |
Hello, Skip!
Welcome to the madness known as the Casebook message boards!
Warm regards,
Divia
PS: Bagels and tea are being served round the back. |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Tuesday, 07 January 2003 - 10:17 am | |
Mmmmmmmmm tea & bagels, oh how bliss you are divia.
Lets make sure it is a good day out today, so I can have a nice little cigar, after! the bagel is finished :o).
Life is good. |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Tuesday, 07 January 2003 - 12:16 pm | |
Dear Dwayne:
It is, indeed. Save a cigar for me. ;)
Warm regards,
Divia |
Author: Jeff Murrish
Tuesday, 07 January 2003 - 02:47 pm | |
Hello all. I'm new to posting at the Casebook, though I have been lurking here for some time now. I am amazed at the thouroughness of research that is presented here and the overall maturity of posters.
I must admit that I have nowhere near the amount of information about JTR that many here have. I am a physician, so perhaps I can add some information along those lines. |
Author: John Hacker
Tuesday, 07 January 2003 - 03:38 pm | |
Hiya Jeff,
Welcome to the Casebook! Enjoy!
Regards,
John Hacker |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Tuesday, 07 January 2003 - 04:46 pm | |
Jeff,
Don't sweat it - all of us have our own niches, and having a Doc on the boards will be an excellent help in all of the pseudo-medical talks we get into.
Welcome to the boards!!
B |
Author: Jeff Murrish
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 03:53 am | |
| Thanks for the welcome guys. Really a fascinating site. |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 07:17 am | |
Welcome aboard to the hunt jeff.
Glad to see more new faces to the forum.
DH |
Author: richard nunweek
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 12:04 pm | |
hi everyone . i am new to these boards after some forty five years of ripper mania and keeping all my thoughts to myself i am looking foreward to hopefully contribute constructively to the passionate conversations that i read daily i always find the boards entertaining an look foreward to some entertaining hours
best regards richard |
Author: John Hacker
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 12:11 pm | |
Richard,
Welcome to the Casebook! It's good to have you here.
Regards,
John |
Author: Richard P. Dewar
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 12:30 pm | |
Hi Richard,
Great name! Hope you enjoy the boards.
Rich |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 12:48 pm | |
Dear Jeff and Richard:
Welcome to the looney-bin, er, Casebook message boards! Have a seat, we'll be starting the Newcomers Cream Tea at 2 pm.
Warm regards,
Divia |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 12:58 pm | |
Richard,
Welcome to our favorite hangout. Make yourself at home, the rest of us have. ;)
Divia, I'll take some Earl Grey if you've got it.
B |
Author: Richard P. Dewar
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 02:28 pm | |
Hi Jeff,
Welcome to the boards!
Rich |
Author: Ally
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 03:10 pm | |
Hello to all newcomers. Hope you have a great time peering at the inmates.
Ally |
Author: Michael Raney
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 05:50 pm | |
Welcome to our insanity Jeff and Richard. I look forward to your input!
Divia Darling,
I prefer Lady Grey or English Breakfast.
Thanks!
Mikey |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 11:25 am | |
Dear Mikey and Brian:
As the perfect little hostess, I am pleased to announce that I have a wide variety of teas available for your pleasure. Earl Grey, Lady Grey, English Breakfast, Irish Breakfast, Keemun, Russian Gold, Ceylon, Jasmine... you name it, I got it. And if I don't have it, I'll make a trip to The Spice Smuggler and get it. And for those of you with plainer tastes, I have PG Tips, Typhoo, Lipton, Tetley, etc.
*smooch*
Divia |
Author: Michael Raney
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 12:57 pm | |
Divia Darling,
I wouldn't have expect anything less from you!
*hugs*
Mikey |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 02:08 pm | |
Divster,
Make mine Earl Grey, with two "splenda" packets (no sugar for this boy).
B |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 02:44 pm | |
Welcome to our newest members richard.
Happy to have you aboard on this most infamous hunt of thee identity of JTR.
So sit back, relax, and experience all clues at a time.
Oh and divia! I will have thee lipton tea with sweet & low sugar and a bagel mmmmmmmmmmmm :-D |
Author: Monty
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 11:55 am | |
Jeff,
"Honalulu baby..where d'ya get those eyes...and ya dark complection...that I idolise"
Damn...that was meant for Divia....
....welcome Jeff, just leave the scalpel outside eh ?
Monty
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Author: C. Junkie
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 07:35 pm | |
Hi everyone.
I wanted to introduce myself, I've read all the rules and think I have a handle on most of them.
I am a huge fan of Cornwell books and have continued reading them even though they most recent ones werent all that good. It was her book that got me here reading about the case.
I put my hotmail address in my profile under other for anyone who wants to chat with me. that's something people can do if they don't want to leave their real email addresses in their profiles but still don't mind people sending them email. That's probably old news but I just thought I'd mention it since it seems there are a lot of people trying to register with hotmail accounts.
C-junk |
Author: Garry Ross
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 07:44 pm | |
Hello to all the new folks, I was supposed to be pouring tea for everyone but I keep falling through the trapdoor that Divia installed just in front of the teapot...I will remember to sidestep it from now on though.
So, who's for tea then?
take care
Garry
*creak.....THUD!!!*
erm...hello? I forgot again! |
Author: Ally
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 07:55 pm | |
Welcome to all newbies as well! It is about time for my tri-weekly invite to all newbies to try the link on the front of the topics page to Tim's chatroom. There are a few of us in now.
Ally |
Author: C. Junkie
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 08:10 pm | |
Hi I was in on the chatroom but then I lost connection and now can't get back in.
CJ |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 08:16 pm | |
CJ,
Try it through mIRC. It's kinda hankey through the Java thing.
B |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Monday, 13 January 2003 - 06:07 pm | |
Greetings and salutations to you c-junkie.
Welcome aboard & glad to have you with us.
Hey divia & gary! don't forget about the tea hee hee mmmmmmmmmm delicious tea and bagels w/jam spread n butter sounds delightful, I can't wait. |
Author: Garry Ross
Tuesday, 14 January 2003 - 12:57 pm | |
Dwayne,
You couldn't be a pal and put the hatch down for me could you? It appears to have fastened itself somehow to stop me opening it. Something keeps nipping at my ankle...
take care
Garry |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Wednesday, 15 January 2003 - 12:48 pm | |
Dearest Garry:
If you'd approach the teapot from the SIDE instead of the FRONT you wouldn't fall down that trapdoor, now, would you?
Oh, and welcome to all the newbies! Grab a cup of tea and a biscuit. Bagels are off today.
*smooch*
Divia, your Internet Hostess with the Mostess |
Author: Garry Ross
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 11:09 am | |
Divia,
I shall remember that in future
I badly grazed my chin the last time you know.
take care
Garry |
Author: Michael J. Meade
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 12:42 pm | |
Hello, I'm a first time poster. I've been lurking in the Casebook for a few weeks now, ever since I went on line to find out if I was the only person on earth who thought Patricia Cornwall's book was shoddy and full of nonsense. I've gathered from the threads here that I'm not.
My fascination with JtR began in high school study hall when I read a Life Magazine article about the Stowell controversy. Even at that tender age, it struck me as extremely unlikely that Prince Eddy could have been the killer, although I could understand how appealing the idea of the heir to the British throne being Britian's most notorious killer was. What do you suppose would have happened if Eddy really was JtR and, instead of dying young, he lived to inherit the throne upon his father's death in 1910? Now there's the scenario for a great movie..."His Majesty, The Ripper"!
Anyway, the Stowell article sparked my interest and I rushed to the public library where the only available book was Tom Cullen's "When london Walked In Terror". I became a confirmed Druitt believer for a while, although I now agree with most people that if it hadn't been for the timing of his unfortunate suicide, there would be no reason to link him to the killings.
Since then, I've read everything I could get my hands on and the more I read, the less certain I am that any of the names put forth are the real one. That's why my favorite Ripper suspect will always be Jonathan Goodman's Peter J. Harpick.
In my opinion, the best of the Ripper authors will always be Donald Rumbelow, the absolute worst are Frank Speiring and Robert Graysmith. I'd rank them well below Cornwell because, as wrong-headed and arrogant as she sounds in her verdict on Sickert, she at least made a stab at doing her homework. Her problem seems to be that she then shoehorned her expensive research results into her pre-conceived theory which is the hallmark of a bad writer.
In adition to JtR, I'm also fascinated by Lizzie Borden and a few others, mostly British and American 19th century crimes.
It's nice to be on board here and I look forward to getting to know all of you. |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 03:43 pm | |
Hello Michael,
Welcome to the Casebook.
Please forgive my ignorance , who is
Peter J.Harpick ?
Once again welcome,(I'm fairly new myself).
Kind regards
Trevor. |
Author: Michael Raney
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 05:21 pm | |
Michael,
Welcome to one of the best places in cyberland! Nice to see new people coming in to visit.
Mikey |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 05:52 pm | |
Welcome to the casebook forum boards Michael J. Meade.
You will meet tons of exciting ripperoligist & friends here and we as well as I, welcome you to the hunt of the worlds most mysterious killer. |
Author: Dwayne Holloway
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 05:53 pm | |
Sorry about the trap door there gary, I was kinda in a rush for divias goodies hee hee.
Wont happen again, I swear heh heh. |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 06:20 pm | |
Dwayne:
Ah, so it was YOU grabbing my goodies, eh, Dwayne? Bad dog! No biscuit! Hee hee... just kidding.
Garry:
I'm DCC-ing some arnica cream for those nasty bruises you picked up falling down the trap door. Hope we're still friends, matey!
Michael:
Welcome to the madness known as the Casebook Message Boards! I promise you, we are not all as completely dotty as my good friends Garry, Monty, and Peter. However, we will tell you that we love Monty most of all. Okay, okay... I love Monty most of all. But don't tell him that.
Anyway... tea and bagels are being served round the back. Punch and pie are reserved for Live Chat night, but you best bring your own. I can't get WTM to supply the goodies.
Warm regards,
Divia
Unofficial Tea Lady of Casebook |
Author: Michael J. Meade
Thursday, 16 January 2003 - 09:14 pm | |
Trevor, Michael, Dwayne and Divia:
Thanks for the warm welcome. I think I'm going to like it here. I feel at home already.
Trevor:
"Peter J. Harpick" is a ficticious Ripper candidate invented by Jonathan Goodman in "Who He: Goodman's Dictionary of the Unknown Famous" in 1984. The name is an anagram for Jack The Ripper. Goodman meant it as a joke, but a apparently a large number of readers didn't get it and thought he was serious. |
Author: Garry Ross
Friday, 17 January 2003 - 03:30 pm | |
Michael,
Welcome and hope you enjoy your stay.
Divia,
Of course we're still friends, the cream will come in very handy...especially since I 'found' the mousetrap you'd put to the side of the trap-door, I found it on my toe
Dwayne,
That's ok too
take care
Garry |
Author: Linda Stratmann
Friday, 17 January 2003 - 05:20 pm | |
Hi, I'm a newcomer, and I am looking forward to some interesting discussions. I've been a true crime buff for over 30 years, and I'm very interested in the psychological aspects. It's nice to see a well-moderated site where even if people disagree they can do so politely and in a good spirit!
Linda |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Friday, 17 January 2003 - 06:08 pm | |
Welcome Linda,
I too am interested in Psychological Profiling etc,but not very knowledgeable on the subject,so perhaps you can fill in some of the blanks?
I hope so.
Best wishes,
Trevor. |
Author: Ally
Friday, 17 January 2003 - 06:27 pm | |
Hi Linda,
Woo hoo ...some people are still attempting to pick themselves up off the floor after reading your last sentence! Welcome to the boards!
And welcome to anyone else I may have missed recently..we love all our newbies equally.
Also come in and check out the chatroom sometime; there's a link at the bottom of the main page of the forum. |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Friday, 17 January 2003 - 09:10 pm | |
Dearest Garry:
Happy Groundhog Day!
*smooch*
Divia |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Friday, 17 January 2003 - 09:15 pm | |
Dear Linda:
Welcome to the Funny Farm, er, Casebook Message Boards!
Yaddayaddayadda,
Divia |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Saturday, 18 January 2003 - 12:58 am | |
Howdy Linda!
I have been very remiss in my newbie-welcoming duties. So howdy to all of 'em I've missed!
Between work picking up (we're short staffed and lots of job shake-ups are happening...although I did get to meet the CEO of the company yesterday), class starting (Let's just say that in order for me to get an A in my courses this semester, I've got to write about 3 30 page projects, read about 150 pages of stuff each weak, get the head of the NRA to let me shadow him for a day, and figure out how to appear on Meet the Press without getting raped by Russert - and do a mock up on camera) and working up my idea for a book about Jacky (it's coming along, albeit slowly), I'm a bit busy.
But that isn't an excuse for not saying hi to my fellow newbies!
B |
Author: Cindy Collins Smith
Tuesday, 21 January 2003 - 12:12 pm | |
Hi,
I'm new to posting here, but I've been reading the site for years.
Ripper background: I got interested in the Ripper through the backdoor. I was working on Hitchcock/Bloch and PSYCHO, did a lot of focus on killer Ed Gein, read up a lot on serial killers, and came across stuff written about JtR.
It totally shocked me and blew me away. I had known he slit women's throats, but... well, YOU know!
Anyway, I wondered how I had gotten such a sanitized notion of the Ripper, and I realized that most of my knowledge of the Ripper was via presentations of the case in films and tv episodes. I've been working with Ripper film and classic television ever since.
I'm not really a classic Ripperologist, in the sense that my obsession is not with figuring out who the Ripper is (I don't think we'll ever know). My interest is in looking at how the Ripper mythos developed.
So, that's me. See y'all later. Oh, and Stephen, I didn't know you lived in the Metropolitan DC area. So do we. Isn't it great having easy access to the Library of Congress???
--Cindy |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Tuesday, 21 January 2003 - 01:28 pm | |
Cindy,
Welcome to the wonderful world of posting.
And a big "howdy neighbor!" - I'm in Alexandria.
B |
Author: Christopher T George
Tuesday, 21 January 2003 - 03:06 pm | |
Hi, Cindy: 
As is Brian I am in the Baltimore-DC area, and we are hoping to put together a springtime get together of locals if you are interested. I am personally interested in all aspects of the case, and as you are I am not suspect-directed. The mythos of the case is in itself a fascinating study. Hope to be able to meet you soon.
Best regards
Chris George |
