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What do you want from Santa's shine big Galdstone bag ??

Casebook Message Boards: Pub Talk: What do you want from Santa's shine big Galdstone bag ??
Author: Monty
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 11:36 am
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Hi Folks,

Bit of fun, yep, just like Caz.

I was wondering what you lot would like from Santa's sack in connection with our Jack ?

It could be something conventional like a copy of Patsys wonderful factual novel or something a bit more obscure.

Me ?? I'd love a copy of Dr Duttons 'Chronicles of crime'.....I just cant find it anywhere !!!

Monty
:)

Author: Brian Schoeneman
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 12:42 pm
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Monty,

I want Paul Begg's new book, and I want undisturbed crime scene photographs of each of the victims. Let's see if Santa can pull THAT one off for me! :)

B

Author: stephen stanley
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 02:24 pm
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Monty,
Is a Galdstone bag something you put bits in after an operation?....other than that..someone to write the JTR atlas, loads of maps & photos now & then.
Steve

Author: Ally
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 02:50 pm
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I just mailed my Holiday cards today. So I want a damn swift postal service to get them there.

And a shiny copy of Cornwell's book. I like gag gifts.

Ally

Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Tuesday, 17 December 2002 - 06:54 pm
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I wouldn't mind the use of Ms.Cornwells Helicopter for an afternoon, ( but not with her flying it !!!!!).

Seasons Greetings,

Trevor

P.s
Stephen, a "Gladstone" bag is what you put your Stethoscope, etc. in .(usually G.P's doing home visits)
"Bits" after an operation either get sent for incineration in bags marked "Cremate" or they get put in jars or buckets (Depending on size)for further Pathological examination.
I hope this answers your question.

Trevor

Author: stephen stanley
Wednesday, 18 December 2002 - 09:17 am
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Trevor,
I Was attempting a very laboured play on words...Galdstone/Gallstone....You see now why I'm no danger to Wilde or Coward in the wit field,
Saw a Gladstone bag at an auction recently...resisted the temptation to attach an"A Present from Whitechapel" label.
Steve

Author: David Jetson
Wednesday, 18 December 2002 - 12:05 pm
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What I'd like: some more clues. Perhaps another notebook from a cop that was on the case or knew something that hasn't leaked out yet. I really think it's possible.

I was going to say "a solution" but then I started thinking that we'd all have to move on to some other famous unsolved case.

Author: Rodney Gillis
Wednesday, 18 December 2002 - 01:22 pm
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I would like my very own Sickert painting showing a killer wearing a uniform just like Prince Albert wore. He would also be wearing a top hat like Neill Cream with a moustache just like Tumblety's. In his hand, he is holding a letter that matches the handwriting of Maybrick. By the victim is a leather apron with a piece of chalk by the apron strings.

Rod

Author: judith stock
Wednesday, 18 December 2002 - 11:47 pm
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ALL you guys are aiming waaaaaay to low!! I want the infamous Polaroid of Saucy Jacky, knife in hand, standing over Mary's bed. If we're wishin', might as well aim as high as you can!!

Cheers,

J

Author: Caroline Morris
Thursday, 19 December 2002 - 10:48 am
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Hi Judy,

That's two wishes - go to the back of the line. :)

Before you can have the Polaroid, you have to have Saucy Jacky in Mary's room, which some argue never happened. (I'm not one of them though.)

I'd ask for the one of Jacky Boy making his mark on Eddowes instead, just to be on the safe side.

Love,

Caz

Author: judith stock
Thursday, 19 December 2002 - 01:40 pm
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You got me there, Caz....AND from the back of the line, I'll ask for Jack and Eddowes in Mitre Square, caught forever on film...how's that?

J

Author: jennifer pegg
Thursday, 19 December 2002 - 02:19 pm
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i would want to know who wrote the chicago article anyone know?
jennifer

Author: Jack Traisson
Thursday, 19 December 2002 - 10:43 pm
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Hi Jennifer,

My guess is that Dr. John C. Spray provided some of inspiration for the story. One person was probably responsible for the writing, though several were undoubtedly responsible for inspiration behind the Howard/Lees story that appeared in the Chicago Sunday Times-Herald on April 28, 1895. I am sure a lot of drinking was involved.

The Whitechapel Club (a branch of the Chicago Press Club) was very exclusive. There could not have been more than 40 or 50 members who were newspapermen over the club's duration. And since not all would have worked for the 'Times-Herald' it limits the possibilities further. Have you tried obtaining a members list? This would narrow things down considerably for you. Richard Digby-Junger has written several articles on the Chicago Press Club and may be able to help you out.

richard.digby-junger@wmich.edu

The Chicago Historical Society, as well as the Illinois State equivalency, should also be able to help you. If you can find a link between any Chicago names and the Bohemian Club of San Francisco it would be worthy of pursuit also.

Happy Christmas!

Author: jennifer pegg
Friday, 20 December 2002 - 09:08 am
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thank you very much, this is certainly interesting.
may i be rude (so to speak) and ask what makes you think this particular person was involved?
will certainly get into contact with the name you suggest
merry xmas
jenni

Author: Monty
Friday, 20 December 2002 - 11:02 am
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Well, seeing as most of you have been good little boys and girls I'll see what I can do.

No diary quips....I am surprised !!!

Father Monty

Author: Christopher-Michael DiGrazia
Friday, 20 December 2002 - 02:51 pm
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Since you're in a generous mood, Father Monty, I want a round-trip first-class BA ticket to the Liverpool Conference in August.

And if you could arrange for a female travelling companion - about 6'2", flaming red hair, porcelain skin and a delightful Oxbridge accent - it would not be unappreciated. . .

- well, a man can dream, can't he? Isn't it time for a bleedin' drink, yet?

Author: Brian Schoeneman
Friday, 20 December 2002 - 05:33 pm
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Chris,

I want those too!

B

Author: Brian Schoeneman
Friday, 20 December 2002 - 05:33 pm
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I also want a computer that doesn't post things twice!

B

Author: Jack Traisson
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 01:16 am
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Hi Jenni,

Given that Dr. Howard's name is used in the 1895 article it just seems more likely that another doctor would be aware of him. The writer could have used a ficticious doctor's name, or none at all, yet he didn't. The fact that an actual doctor is named is suspicious to me. Also, Dr. Spray was the superintendent of a lunatic asylum. If you have seen photographs of the Whitechapel Club, in Harris' 'The Bloody Truth' or elsewhere, the room was decorated with human skulls provided by Dr. Spray.

Just so you know, I once did some research on a person who turned out, coincidentally, to be a member of the Whitechapel Club. I haven't actually delved that deeply into the Howard/Lees article because it's not in the direction that my research has taken me.

And to get back on topic for this thread, I'd like to give everyone everything they want for Christmas - especially you, CMD, because you dream BIG - but, alas, I am but a poor Ripper enthusiast. As for me: I would like Chris George to put his clothes back on sometime before this winter is over. That snowblowing photograph has warped my fragile little mind.

Cheers!

Author: Philip C. Dowe
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 09:56 am
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I don't want much:

- peace for all my friends world wide
- a sane president for my friends in the USA
- an interview with The Boss
- a look at the missing files
- the name of the author of you know what
- 10 good men for Nasser Hussain

Is that asking too much?

Philip

Author: Neal Shelden
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 11:41 am
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I'll settle for:





In no particular order.
Have a good xmas everyone!

Author: Diana
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 07:40 pm
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A couple of new Ripper books and a contact roaster so I don't have to work too hard Christmas Day.

Author: Howard Brown
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 08:44 pm
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Dave Radka's address.........nothing else.

Author: Howard Brown
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 08:49 pm
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Author: David Radka
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 11:45 pm
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"Dave Radka's address.........nothing else."

I am anxious concerning this. It appears to be a veiled threat of physical violence directed at me. Since Mr. Brown lives in eastern Pennsylvania and I in central Connecticut, he is only about 200 miles away and could get here. My elderly father lives very near me, and could also be made a target.

I do not know what to do about Mr. Brown, and would appreciate suggestions. I have had no contact with him.

David

Author: Brian Schoeneman
Saturday, 21 December 2002 - 11:46 pm
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David,

Chill dude. Howard's just kidding.

Have a Merry Christmas and don't worry about it. If he really wanted to hurt you, first of all, he wouldn't post it on the boards. Second of all, if he really wanted the address, it would take him about two seconds to get it.

That's how long it took me to find mine online.

B

Author: Eric Cannon
Sunday, 22 December 2002 - 01:12 am
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Joke or not, think Ally will be opening a can of whupass in here soon.

Author: Howard Brown
Sunday, 22 December 2002 - 10:51 am
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..........not on me I sure hope ! Brian's right ! Its a joke. Chill out CPA ! ... Its a joke....besides,I'm dumber than a box of hammers...I'd probably wind up in a city like Canada or another country like say,Wyoming,if I would come to congratulate you for your rash ( one ) of sensible postings lately......Besides,Dave,why would I waste my time on you?

Author: Ivor Edwards
Monday, 23 December 2002 - 12:07 am
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I am creased over with laughter here I cannot believe that David Radka would accuse Howard of Philly of wishing to murder him!!!! that really takes the cake that one. Am I really debating with people who wish to murder each other!! We should leak the story to PC. I can hear her now on LBC saying, "Those people on the internet site are all quite mad you know why one believes another wishes to kill him" I could sell the story to THE DAILY TELEGRAPH the headline would read along the lines of,Internet Murder Plot Uncovered which would be followed by, Mr David Radka tells of the internet murder plot which he uncovered.You are a card David that is for sure and just when I thought you were getting sensible.Some of your last posts have been very good and now you have to go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like. "I think someone is trying to kill me." And not just anyone David but dear old Howard from Philly of all people. It really is not good enough by any standards you know old chap one just can't do this sort of thing with impunity to a gentleman it certainly is not cricket. You should really say sorry to Howard from Philly I know he will be quite hurt to hear of such news and indeed who can blame him from feeling so.

PS David if it does turn out that Howard is trying to kill you and I was mistaken then run like hell.Howard was rumoured to have kept company with a one eyed hit man who freelanced for the mob named Dead Eye. This chap was so called not because of his missing eye but because he never missed a shot.
They were like brothers and Dead Eye always told Howard that he would take a dim view if anyone were to slander Howards good name. I wont go into the finer details of how Dead Eye deals with the victims suffice to state that it ain't very nice and it can stink a bit if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. Take it easy David and stop popping the pills and if you are not popping pills then start popping them.I do not want to see such silly posts from you accusing people of intent to murder on a public forum. I have neither seen nor heard the like of it before and you Sir are behaving like a cad and a bad one at that.In fact joking aside I can vouch for Mr Howard Brown and if you care to view his frofile you will note that he is the Minister of Defense of the Ivor Edwards Fan Club, MC...

As such Howard is beyond reproach and his word is his bond.
I can't have the likes of you running around stating that my minister of Defense for the IEFC is going to harm you in any way. The Fan Club will lose a great deal of street cred if you accuse any member of intent to cause GBH or even murder. Whatever time this crime took place Howard was with me raising funds and support for the cause.

Author: David O'Flaherty
Monday, 23 December 2002 - 11:08 am
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I want Joe Strummer back.

Author: Kevin Braun
Monday, 23 December 2002 - 03:08 pm
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I don't know. Howard lives in Philly and is not an Eagles fan. He may be capable of a nefarious plot to uncover "Dave Radka's address....nothing else". Travel to central Connecticut, a dinner with few drinks, a little face to face conversation and wish him a Merry Christmas.


By the way, I would like to take the opportunity to wish all who contribute to "Casebook' Happy and Save Holidays.

Take care,
Kevin

Author: Howard Brown
Monday, 23 December 2002 - 04:24 pm
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Dear Ivor....Thanks buddy. Dave is actually angry that my request for his address ( which of course was a joke...)distracted him from his fabricating insults against real contributors like Messrs.George,Norder,DiGrazia,....you know...that lot... Sorry Dave......................... Dear Dave O : Joe Strummer's death sucks. I personally differ in more than a few ways with him politically,but man did I admire that guy for his uncompromising stand and passion. Compare him with some of the "heroes" the younger guys have today in music...what a joke,huh ? ........................... Kevin: Thanks for outing me like you did. Although not gay,I was just about to make an exception for a certain Connecticut gent....You "blew" it for me Kevin ! Damn you !!!! P.S. Kevin.........Eagles in Super Bowl versus Patriots....Eagles win 20-16

Author: Kevin Braun
Monday, 23 December 2002 - 05:31 pm
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Howard,

How about Eagles 28 Raiders 21.

Knocking on wood. Kevin

Author: Howard Brown
Monday, 23 December 2002 - 07:28 pm
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Big K : I was trying to avoid the Raiders ! I'm hoping for the Pats.....Either way, the 'Birds defense is on all cylinders now...You may be right. Oakland has all the goods to get to the Super Bowl....whattyaknow ! A repeat of '80's two finalists.....this time with a better ending. Go Birds !

Author: Monty
Tuesday, 24 December 2002 - 07:41 am
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Bloody hell fire !!!

You lot dont ask for much.

CMD, Make sure theres a little something, golden and moist, too keep me warm at the end of you bed and I'll see what I can do.

Philip C, Thats never too much.

Neal, OH YES, that certainly can be arranged

David R, That sense of humour transplant has been ordered on the NHS. You're down for Jan 7th.....2007.

Ivor, no, I cannot arrange for Caz to sit on your knee, Peter Wood is free though.

Dave O, You want the other Guy...not me. Rock the Casbah !

Right, Im off now...busy night...I wish each the best Christmas...and to all a good night....or something like that !

Father Monty



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Author: Ivor Edwards
Tuesday, 24 December 2002 - 01:36 pm
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Hi Monty, Have a good one yourself :-)


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