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Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Letters: General Discussion: The Goulston Street Graffito: Archive through May 20, 1999

Author: Peter Birchwood Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 10:39 am
Gentlepersons: Let's talk height. The deranged yellow bear is today approximately 8 inches tall and is unlikely to have increased or decreased in height by more than 0.5% over the past 100 years. We must therefore picture someone 8" high carrying about 1/3rd of a womans apron from Mitre Square to Goulston Street. Unlikely? Certainly. As I have proven previously, Sooty was preincarnated as a pair of socks in 1888 and so has an excellent alibi. Recent analysis of an unpublished work by Aleister Crowley does show that H.P. Blavatsky, formerly Miss Eileen Nugent of the Nugent and Maybrick Sheep Ranch, Wallaby Springs, NSW did from time to time amuse herself with a Tibetan glove-puppet meant to represent Koot Homi. She was also the last known English breeder of the Tasmanian Tiger or Thylacine in the UK. It is possible, I say no more than that, that Koot Homi rode on one of HPB's thylacines from the City to Goulston Street. This would of course explain one of the continuing Ripper mysteries: the presence of a curved and flattened piece of wood with the legend "A Present from Alice Springs" in Mary Kelly's room. Peter "Yours for Justice" Birchwood.
Author: RED DEMON Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 02:48 pm
Hello All! To Peter: What?!? To Leanne: The reason that nothing was mentioned of the graffito at Catharine Eddowes' inquest is because the purpose of the inquest was to establish her cause of death. The graffito in no way was necessary for that purpose. The fact that Warren received so much heat for having it erased shows that it WAS thought important by quite a few. It was, after all, copied down by a few individuals for later investigation. And it caused quite a furor in the Jewish community that sparked high-ranking Jewish officials to comment on it in the papers. In other words, it strengthened somes views that the killer was Jewish, although, as I've stated, I don't believe that was the killer's intention with the message. In other words, it was considered important. If I might ask, Leanne, what is this book you have that was written 30 years after the murders? Last, but not least, I am inclined to agree with Guy Hatton...Smith's sink story is a bit outrageous. Surely, he would have drawn his peers to it and they would have found some trace of blood in the sink. This doesn't seem to have happened. Therefore, either Smith was a horrible cop, or a boaster. I'm inclined to say he was a boaster, as any officer would have loved the notoriety of having discovered a piece of evidence left by Jack the Ripper. They certainly wouldn't wait 30 years to bring it forward. As always, let me know what you think. Until then... Yours truly, RED DEMON
Author: Helpful Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 03:01 pm
Catherine is spelt with an 'e,' not an 'a.'
Author: Christopher-Michael Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 03:06 pm
Considering that I have already presented the unanswerable theory that the "FM" on Mary Kelly's wall points the bloody finger of truth to a certain Cuban gentleman who shall remain nameless, I shall not deign to answer "Leachy's" short-sighted bluster, nor to comment on Mr Birchwood's well-meaning but misguided commentary (we all know by now that H.P. Blavatsky was the godmother of H.P. Lovecraft, and "Great Cthulhu" and "Leather Apron" each have 12 letters. Coincidence? I think not). After all, what more cunning proof could there be that the Ripper was no ordinary mortal when he was able to point an accusatory finger to a suspect not yet born on the night of November 9? Sheer genius. And now, for something completely different. . . It's interesting to take a look again at "Leather Apron" to see what its writer has to say about Goulston Street. On pp. 22-23, Detective Halse is quoted as saying the writing "seemed freshy, and if it had been long written it would have been rubbed by people passing. It was written on the black wall in a good school boy's handwriting. The capitals would be under an inch high and italics in proportion. The bricks of the house on which it appeared were painted black, up to about four feet like a dado, and above that they are white." I have not yet accessed the "Telegraph" for Catharine Eddowes' inquest, so I cannot at the moment say how closely this represents Halse's actual testimony. It is, however, interesting to note that while Halse is quoted as saying he wanted the writing photographed and the police were noted as attaching "much importance" to it, Halse's comments - as reported second- or third-hand at an ocean's distance, remember - imply by description of letter construction and position that the writing was the work of a young man, possibly even a child. Why the anonymous writer contented himself with "Leather Apron" as the identifying nom de plume for the Ripper is curious. He was certainly aware of the more famous name, as many pages are devoted to the "gory missives" and their imitations. We are told on p. 8 that "the finding of a leathern apron in the yard of 39 [sic] Hanbury Street, in which Anna [sic] Chapman was killed and her body coolly mutilated, and which had been abandoned by the fiend, gave him at once the sobriquet of "Leather Apron." Perhaps having started off with this name, he felt it easier to stay with it - or maybe "Jack the Ripper" didn't appeal to the writer's aesthetic tastes? Cthulhu fhtagn, Christopher-Michael
Author: Christopher-Michael Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 03:19 pm
And yet again - Red Demon: the book Leanne is speaking of is (I am almost positive), "The Whitechapel Horrors: Being an Authentic Account of the Jack the Ripper Murders" by a free-lance journalist named Tom Robinson. It was rescued from obscurity by the indefatigable Andy Aliffe, from whom I was honoured to receive a copy. I am not quite sure where you can find it at the moment, and perhaps Leanne would be kind enough to tell us. Helpful: Paul Begg, in his "Uncensored Facts," and Begg, Martin Fido and Keith Skinner in "The Jack the Ripper A-Z" tell us that Eddowes' Christian name was spelled with an "a" to match that of her mother. Stewart Evans has recently stated that this is a mistake based on a misreading of her birth certificate, and I have sent for a copy of the certificate to see for myself. Her name is certainly spelled "cathErine" on her death certificate, however. More later. CMD
Author: RLeen Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 03:34 pm
Hello All, Thank you to Mr. Hatton for the interesting background information regarding the origin of the blood in the sink. I agree that this story now seems a tad dubious which, is fairly fortunate, as most of the JTR theories centre around Dorset Street! Only another six hundred and forty three left to disprove now! Trusting you are all well. Rabbi Leen
Author: RED DEMON Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 04:01 pm
Dear Christopher-Michael, As always, you are on top of things. Thank you for providing the reference of Leanne's book. I would love a copy of that! Thank you, also, for printing that quote from 'Leather Apron' for everyone to read. I'm not sure I believe that by saying the message was written in 'a good school boy's handwriting' he was meaning a child. I think, more likely, he was simply stating that it seemed the writing of someone with a bit of an education and some experience in writing. In other words, not the ramblings of an illiterate, which the district was crawling with. Let me know what you think. Until then... Yours truly, RED DEMON
Author: Jon Smyth Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 05:21 pm
Leanne: (RED, you jumped in a little too soon there friend) The Graffiti was mentioned at the Eddowes Inquest on pages 38/39 in the testimony of Alfred Long. And again on pages 41/42 during the testimony of Detective Halse. Not discussed or interpreted, just mentioned as to the exact wording etc. Regards, Jon
Author: Leanne Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 05:49 pm
G'day RED and all, The book I was referring to is titled: 'Jack The Ripper, The Whitechapel Horrors'. I found it here, under 'Book Reviews'. It is a reprint, by Andy Aliffe and I sent 10 pounds to England for a copy. Andy's address can be found under: 'related discussion pages', at the bottom of the page. LEANNE!
Author: Ashling Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 08:23 pm
Hi y'all. STEWART: Can your vast newspaper collection shed any light on the size and whereabouts of the Grafitto (inside the entry or outside on the wall next to the doorway into the entry, etc., etc.) & whether or not Eddowes was WEARING an apron as an article of clothing, had it in her pocket, or if it was just found near her body? I know you're busy ... but we'd all appreciate any help you might offer. CHRISTOPHER-MICHAEL: Thank you!! Reading the exact wording from original sources is always a TREMENDOUS help. Thanks for taking the time & making the effort. The below is all I've found so far which gives details I'm still seeking clarity on. If anyone has access to orginial sources which these authors (or others) drew on - I'd greatly appreciate seeing the exact wording. STEVE F: I have no idea what your credentials are, but don't take it personal because I can't accept your authoritatively stated pronouncements on blind faith. Whenever possible I double-check facts posted here by established authors. I'd be a lousy researcher if I didn't. .................... SUGDEN'S COMPLETE HISTORY OF JtR - chap. 9 �PC Alfred Long ... found a piece of a woman�s apron, wet with blood, lying in the entry leading to the staircase of Nos. 108-119 Wentworth Model Dwellings. ... on the right-hand side of the open doorway to the entry, just above the apron, he saw something else. Written in white chalk on the fascia of black bricks edging the doorway were the words ...� FOOTNOTE #17 to this section - cites Detective Daniel Halse�s eyewitness testimony at Eddowes� inquest on Oct. 11th - which is printed in the DAILY TIMES on Oct. 12th. �Press versions of his testimony add that there were three lines in a �a good schoolboy�s round hand�, the capital letters about three quarters of an inch high and the others in proportion.� 2 PAGES later - Sugden states Eddowes was wearing the apron - BUT doesn't quote anyone on this "fact". He summarizes Dr. Brown�s deposition - Brown�s excerpted words don�t detail where apron was. Sugden�s words inserted in parenthesis are ambigious - �found on the body� could mean inside her pockets. ......................... BEGGS, FIDO & SKINNER'S A-Z = Begins their list of Eddowes� possessions with the clothes she wore & ends with things carried in her pockets ... �A piece of old White apron� is listed last, after a ball of hemp. ............................. RYDER'S CASEBOOK under Eddowes> Victims - Lists 16 items Eddowes was wearing: NONE of them are an apron. Among her many possession is listed: �1 piece of old white apron.� ............................. RUMBLELOW�S COMPLETE CASEBOOK (1988) chap 3- Lists the clothes Eddowes wore (no mention of an apron) & then - States on: PAGE 64: �In her pockets was everything she owned; this included ... a piece of old white apron ...� PAGE 66: � As the body of Eddowes-Kelly was being undressed in the mortuary the detectives noticed that part of the bloodstained apron that was around her neck had been cut away.� ................................... I think highly of Rumblelow, but he didn't have access to many records which turned up later. The two passages above seem to contradict each other. I hope to find a picture which shows the street in front of the Wentworth building ... IF it's on level ground & no steps OUTSIDE on the sidewalk (footpath) lead up to the building - then I can NOT ASSUME it was easy for anyone (except kids & midgets) to read anything written so near the bottom of the wall. RED DEMON: I neither like nor dislike YOU ... You haven't been posting here long enough for me to make a fair evaluation (1st impressions can be inaccurate). However, your posting practices add to the chaos here - which is already unnecessarily high. I have suggested twice that you do whatever it takes to give yourself enough time to read mine & other people's entire posts ... instead of sparking a defensive volley of time-wasting posts, based on speed-reading assumptions. If you are posting hurriedly from work, I'm sure others here who don't have computer access at home will be glad to share suggestions on how they manage that difficult situation. Stephen Ryder set this board up to expand knowledge on JtR, not restrict it. Thanks to everyone who's providing new ideas and/or old information to this discussion. Take care, Ashling
Author: Jon Smyth Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 09:40 pm
Hi Ashling Just a couple of items from the Eddowes Inquest Papers. Page 30, ....testimony from P.C. George Hutt (In charge of prisoners at Bishopsgate)......"I noticed she was wearing an apron I believe the one produced was the one she was wearing when she left the station" Page 22,....testimony of Dr G. Brown....."my attention was called to the apron, it was the corner of the apron with a string attached the blood spots were of recent origin, i have seen a portion of an apron produced by Dr Phillips and stated to have been found in Goulstone street, its impossible to say it is human blood, I fitted the piece of apron which had a new piece of material on it which had been evidently sewn on to the piece I have, the seams of the borders of the two actually corresponding, some blood and apparently faecal matter was found on the portion found in Goulstone street" page 29,......testimony of P.C. Robinson...."The last time I saw her in the Police cell was at 10 to 9 she was wearing an apron, I believe the apron produced was the one she was wearing" Page 38,....testimony of P.C. Long......"I found a portion of a womans apron which I produced, there appeared blood stains on it, one portion was wet lying in a passage leading to the staircases of 108 to 119 model dwelling house, above it on the wall was written in chalk ............I at once took the apron to Commercial Road Police Station" The list of her possesions appears to be incomplete, it is only 2 pages long, the first page has no heading so is not likely to be 'page 1' of the list. The second page has a gap of about 2 inches at the bottom, so might be the last page of the list. The last item mentioned is "1 piece of old white apron" It is not said to be in with the contents of her pockets, in fact there is no such wording on the list. However, there are pockets listed as separate items, as if these were like purses or pouches "calico pockets" and "bed ticking" pockets, but these are listed as separate items only. then follows a list of loose items that would be from a pocket, you might imagine and at the end is this 'piece of apron'. Regards, Jon
Author: Ashling Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 10:05 pm
Hi y'all. JON: Thank you, thank you, thank you! Your posting of the inquest papers helps me (and others) a great deal. The testimony of P.C.s Hutt & Robinson provides the kind of details I hoped to find. Is it possible that in addition to the apron Eddowes wore, she also carried a scrap of apron along with other rags in her posssession? (I think used for feminine hygiene purposes - ahem, sorry.) Again Jon, thanks for your welcome contribution. Take care, Ashling
Author: Jon Smyth Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 10:59 pm
Is it possible ? well yes of course, ....but is it likely ? I mean we have too halves of an apron that match and Det. Halse was quoted somewhere else as saying that the piece that was found in Goulstone St. was "about half" (don't like quoting when I can't lay my hands on it) but those aprons attached around the neck and went to the ground, or almost. So half is a considerable size, I would have thought too much to just cut off to whipe your hands on. So did he cut it off to carry away her innerds ? - thats speculation. But to your question, did she carry an extra piece on her person, well if she did it wasn't either of the two pieces that are known to have been found. So if she had a third piece, where is it ? The piece found in Goulstone St. was clearly the missing half of the one on her body. So there is no reason to speculate on a third piece, thats all. Regards, Jon (goodnight all)
Author: Stewart P Evans Wednesday, 19 May 1999 - 03:35 am
The piece of Apron and the chalked message - "On the wall above it was written in chalk 'The Jewes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing." - Inspector McWilliam. "The writing was on the jamb of the open archway or doorway visible to anybody in the street..." - Sir Charles Warren. "...I considered it desirable to obliterate the writing at once, having taken a copy of which I enclose a duplicate." - Sir Charles Warren. "2.55 a.m. he [PC Long] found in the bottom of a common stairs leading to No. 108 to 119, Goldston [sic] Street Buildings a piece of bloodstained apron, and above it written in chalk the words, 'The Juwes are the men who will not be blamed for nothing.' which he reported, and the City Police were subsequently acquainted at the earliest moment, when it was found that beyond doubt the piece of apron found corresponded exactly with the part missing from the body of the murdered woman." - Chief Inspector Donald S. Swanson. "Upon the discovery of the blurred chalk writing on the wall, written, - although mis-spelled in the second word, - in an ordinary hand in the midst of a locality principally inhabited by Jews of all nationalities as well as English, and upon the wall of a common stairs leading to a number of tenements occupied almost exclusively by Jews, and the purport of the writing as shewn at page. 3. was to throw blame upon the Jews, the Commr. deemed it advisable to have them rubbed out..." - Chief Inspector Donald Swanson. "To those police officers who saw the chalk writing, the handwriting of the now notorious letters to a newspaper agency bears no resemblance at all." - Chief Inspector Donald Swanson. "I was on duty in Goulston Street on the morning of 30th Sept: at about 2.55 A.M. I found a portion of an apron covered in blood lying in the passage of the door-way leading to Nos. 108 to 119 Model Dwellings in Goulston Street. Above it on the wall was written in chalk 'The Juews [!] are the men that will not be blamed for nothing,'" - PC 254A Alfred Long. "...my attention was called to some writing on the wall of the entrance to some dwellings No. 108 Goulston Street Whitechapel which consisted of the following words 'The Juews are the men that will not be blamed for nothing.'..." - Superintendent Thomas Arnold. "I produce a portion of the apron which deceased was apparently wearing which had been cut through and was found outside her dress -..." - Inspector Edward Collard, [at Eddowes' inquest]. "1 piece of old White Apron..." - from Police list of Eddowes' property. "My attention was called to the apron - It was the corner of the apron with a string attached. The blood spots were of recent origin - I have seen a portion of an apron produced by Dr. Phillips and stated to have been found in Goulstone [sic] Street. It is impossible to say it is human blood. I fitted the piece of apron which had a new piece of material on it which had been evidently sewn on to the piece I have. The seams of the borders of the two actually corresponding - some blood and apparently faecal matter was found on the portion found in Goulstone Street." - Dr. F. Gordon Brown, [at Eddowes' inquest]. "I found a portion of a woman's apron which I produce. There appeared blood stains on it, one portion was wet, lying in a passage leading to the staircases of 108 to 119 Model Dwelling House. Above it on the wall was written in chalk - The Jews are the men that will not be blamed for nothing..." - PC Alfred Long [at Eddowes' inquest]. "The words that were written on the wall - 'the Jewes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing'I copied the words from the wall into my report - I could not say whether they were recently written. I wrote down into my book and the Inspector noticed that Jews was spelt Juews. There was a difference between the spelling." - PC Alfred Long [at Eddowes' inquest]. "I and Detective Hunt went on to Goulstone [sic] Street and the spot was pointed out where the apron was found. I saw some chalk writing on the black facia of the wall..." - DC Daniel Halse [at Eddowes' inquest.] "I took a note of the writing before it was rubbed out. The exact words were 'The Juwes are not the men that will be blamed for nothing.' The writing had the appearance of being recently written..." - DC Daniel Halse [at Eddowes' inquest]. From the inquest report in The Times:- Mr Crawford.- "Could you say whether the blood spots on the piece of apron produced were of recent origin?" Dr. F. G. Brown.- "They are of recent origin." Dr Phillips brought on a piece of apron which had been found by a policeman in Goulston-street. Dr. F. G. Brown.- "Yes; it is blood. On the piece of apron brought on there were smears of blood on one side as if a hand or a knife had been wiped on it. It fitted the piece of apron in evidence." At about 2 55 he [PC Long] found a portion of an apron (produced as before). There were recent stains of blood on it. It was lying in the passage leading to a staircase of 118 and 119, ordinary model dwelling-houses. Above it on the wall was written in chalk, 'The Jews are the men that will not be blamed for nothing.' He [PC Long] had not noticed the wall before. He noticed the piece of apron first, and then the words on the wall. One corner of the apron was wet with blood. His light was on at the time. His attention was attracted to the writing on the wall while he was searching. DC Halse - [Reading from his note-book, 'The Juwes are not the men that will be blamed for nothing.'] The writing appeared to have been recently done. It was done with white chalk on the black facia of the wall...He assumed that the writing was recent, because from the number of persons living in the tenement he believed it would have been rubbed out had it been there for any time. There were about three lines of writing,[sic] which was in a good schoolboy hand. The writing was in the passage of the building itself, and was on the black dado of the wall. PC Long.- (re-called having fetched his pocket-book) "They [the words] were 'The Jews are the men that will not be blamed for nothing.' The Inspector made the remark that on the wall the word was 'Jeuws.' [!] Witness entered in his book what he believed was an exact copy of the words. The copy of the wall message in the official files appears thus:- The Juwes are The men that Will not be Blamed for nothing [Ref- HO 144/221/A49301C f 183] It will be seen that it is written in five lines and there are random capitals.
Author: Ashling Wednesday, 19 May 1999 - 04:47 am
STEWART: Wow! Had no idea there were so many quotes on this topic. I'm printing like mad. THANK YOU!!! VIPER: In reviewing this topic, just realized I never thanked you for digging up the name of the photographer the police hired. Goodonya. Take care, Ashling
Author: Sara Wednesday, 19 May 1999 - 11:07 pm
Ashling: Thank you for asking about graffito placement - I'd been wondering myself - Rumbelow's "CJtR" states "...Constable 254A Alfred Long, who immediately searched the adjoining staircase for blood stains. As he was shining his lamp about he saw that a message had been scrawled across the black dado of the wall." Decoratively and architecturally, a dado is the lower part of an interior or exterior wall, above the kick molding and below the chair rail molding -(Webster's) So that would seem, as pointed out in a previous post (Wolf, perhaps, or someone equally as chatty and knowledgable ;) ) that it was very close to the ground - to paraphrase - "possibly the work of a prankish schoolchild or disgruntled drunk". IMHO, JtR saw this bit of grafitto while scouting the area, and decided to really mix them up, "just for jolly". A hilarious, homicidal, happy accident. All the best, and Ashling, I do enjoy your posts, keep up the good work. Sara
Author: RED DEMON Wednesday, 19 May 1999 - 11:16 pm
Hello Everyone! Wonderful job, Stewart. You saved us all a lot of trouble. Thank you. I think that it is more likely that the apron was used to wipe the Ripper's hands as opposed to carry the organ. I believe he came prepared for the organ, but not for the amount of blood on his hands. Also, I think that the victim's faeces would be much more likely to have been on his hands as they were milling around in all parts of her, unlike the kidney. It is interesting, what the policeman said in his dissertation (I can't remember the name off hand) here on the casebook about the possiblity that the Ripper cut himself in the attack on Eddowes as so often happens in knife assaults, and that he could have used the apron piece to slow the bleeding. It might be worth a check to look at the records of all the hospitals in the immediate vicinity for the night of or the day after the 'double event'. Perhaps there will be the name of a man who received stitches for a knife wound or some time of cut on his hand. Perhaps it will be the name of one of our many suspects, perhaps not. Let me know what you think. Until then... Yours truly, RED DEMON
Author: Ashling Thursday, 20 May 1999 - 03:12 am
Hi y'all. LEANNE: As you can see from Jon & Stewart's postings, P.C. Long did testify about the Goulston St. Grafitto at Eddowes inquest ... so it seems JtR: The Whitechapel Horrors contains some errors. However, from the excerpts you've been kind enough to share with us - I think it'd still be a very interesting read. About how many pages is it & did the 10 pounds to Andy cover postage & shipping? Thanks. SARA: Thank you for your kind comments & the dado definition. Little tidbits like that go a long way in helping me visualize the murder scenes. Your idea of JtR planting the apron piece below a pre-existing grafitto may warrant expansion. I believe others here have similiar ideas. The number one trait I visualize in Jack is arrogance ... I have a hard time connecting him with a sense of humor - but I remain open-minded. To some posters, especially those living in London, my questions may seem trivial or "done to death" ... but they allow me to sweep the scenery clean of myths & misinformation & get a clear view of any tiny clues JtR might have left us. I appreciate everyone's patience. RED DEMON: Jack evidently cleaned his hands somehow the other times - so I like the idea he used the apron to bind an accidental knife wound on himself at the Eddowes' scene. Your idea to check hospital records is sound, contemporary police may have done so - certainly can't hurt to look. However, Whitechapel abounded in all things illegal - so it's more likely JtR went to a "back-street doctor," who'd had their license revoked for performing abortions or whatever. Take care, Ashling
Author: Edana Thursday, 20 May 1999 - 09:27 am
Howdy peoples, I think it makes sense that if Jack cut himself then that's why he cut the apron, to wipe the blood away. I'm sure he hated the sight of his own blood and felt a bit miffed that he had cut himself, so he hurriedly 'ripped' a piece of apron instead of reaching for his own handkerchief. He might even have been disgusted that he had faeces on his hands, maybe that's why he needed to wipe his hands. Then again, it was dark, he couldn't really see what was on his hands, maybe he felt a pain after he cut himself, slashed at whatever piece of fabric was near and ran away to get some light to see how bad he was cut, noticed it wasn't too bad (not a heck of a lot of blood on the apron piece), threw the piece of apron down, noticed the graffiti, got a huge chuckle out of it and disappeared into the night. As far as pockets go, it was common in the medieval times all the way up to the 18th century at least for women to wear 'pockets' under their skirts. This is a sort of short apronlike garment, which had pockets hanging from it...accessable from slits in the side of the skirt. I don't know if this was a common piece of garment in Victorian times, but I do know that most women of the lower and middle classes wore aprons to protect their clothes since clothing was not cheap. Edana
Author: Leanne Thursday, 20 May 1999 - 10:42 am
G'day Ashling and RED especially, The book: 'The Whitechapel Horrors - An Authentic Account of Jack the Ripper Murders', wasn't a great buy, considering it cost me about $36 Australian, but I think it was a great buy because it contains AUTHENTIC accounts! There are only 32 pages. It costs $20, to those who order it from America,(overseas postage is included)! Under the heading 'The Mitre Square Horror', three pages are devoted to Catherine Eddowes and two and half of these are details of the inquest. Towards the end of these pages, it just says 'Then some police and other evidence was called, none of which threw any further light on the tragedy'. LEANNE!