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"From Hell" - What Might It Mean?
Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Letters: General Discussion:
"From Hell" - What Might It Mean?
Author: Bob_c
Monday, 12 April 1999 - 11:39 am |        | Hi Walter,
I believe the post costed a penny then, but there are much more astute brains on the board than me. If Nichols and co. charged 3p a go, and a normal candle costed 1/2p, a weeks rent for Kelly's hovel 4s 6p and a large gin 3p then we see that post charges were not (relatively) cheap then.
The average citizen would still indeed have written fairly regularly and there may be signs that Jack was a bit better off as many others. Coinage would, I believe, not have prevented him from writing, if it were he. I have also not absolutely crossed out the possibility of Jack having written at least one.
Best regards,
Bob |
Author: Walter
Monday, 12 April 1999 - 02:11 pm | | Bob,
Thanks for the clarification! I'm still working on a few other thoughts. Hopefully, I can come up with something substantial.
Walter |
Author: Julian
Monday, 12 April 1999 - 10:23 pm | | G'day Caz, everyone,
Hey Caz, I reckon that Plaice you were talking about would be really nice but plain old fish fingers with some ginger garnish is pretty mouth watering too.
G'day Walter, I haven't seen you around before so g'day mate and welcome.
Jules |
Author: Bob_c
Tuesday, 13 April 1999 - 03:28 am | | Hi Walter,
Sorry, I've been away for some days and didn't notice that you are new. Welcome to the board.
Hi Jules,
Best regards
Bob |
Author: Dekker Falconetti
Tuesday, 13 April 1999 - 03:50 am | | Calogridis-
actually, I would be very surprised if jack did not want to call attention to himself...considering the treatment and placement of the bodies and the belongings of the victims (in some cases:)...most serial killers with specific and elaborate M/Os, with the exceptions of those directly related to fetishes and ritual, do wish their killings to be connected and attributed to one person. In fact, the leaving of notes and clues (often ones where the killer selects a "trade name") are quite common in these cases...not just supposed Jack the Ripper copy cat killers...
Considering the case studies I've examined and the nature of the Jack the Ripper killings, if we assume that they weren't commited by multiple people and they weren't part of a royal conspiracy (haha), I would be most surprised indeed if Jack didn't write letters and leave notes... |
Author: Caz
Tuesday, 13 April 1999 - 09:19 am | | Hey Jules,
You're not having me on are you? (tee hee)
Did you mean it when you said you haven't got the facility to click on the names of posters here to access their email addresses/profile stuff and photos etc? If so, you are missing out big-time mate. If you wanna know anything just ask me.
Hey Bob! That goes for you too. Have you 'clicked' yet?
Hey Dekker (aka Leather Apron),
I agree with you about Jack wanting to boast of his handiwork, possibly through letters, even though he was 'hell'-bent on not getting his collar felt. Seems to fit the modern idea of certain serial killers nicely (though not all, of course. They are all individuals with multi-motives and agenda).
Veering off again, your name reminds me of last night. Before UB40 came on stage, all the old reggae stuff from the late 60s was being played to get us jigging. '007' by Desmond 'Dekker' brought back a heap of memories, along with 'The Liquidator' and 'Return of D'Jango'.
Anyone out there old enough to remember those?
Love,
Caz |
Author: Edana
Tuesday, 13 April 1999 - 11:58 am | | Hi folks, just sticking my nose in for a second to keep it wet. I love your name, Dekker. It sounds so James Bondish, or maybe gangsterish. I am old enough Caz, but I don't remember any of those songs.I just wasn't into Reggae much. What kind of music do you think JTR listened to? Music hall stuff? Something deep and sinister, or Wagnerian?
Edana |
Author: Caz
Tuesday, 13 April 1999 - 12:17 pm | | Hi Edana!
Great to hear your soothing voice in a sea of cat-calls, don't ya know!
I think our Jack would be listening to the sound of the ivories being tickled, while he was tickling up ovaries with his nise shinny nif, just for jolly, wouldn't you.
My JtR probably tried his hand at the violin before going for a bevvy or three at some 'vile inn', like the City Darts before it was so-named. Then he would have tried his hand at adding another string to his bow (made from cat gut?)
Enough fiddling with words, have you heard from Yaz? I must update him soon with all the nonsense. He sends everyone his regards.
Tell me again about Charlie Ricketts, you mentioned him recently and I've seen his name somewhere among my recent purchases, I just can't put my finger on it.
love,
Caz |
Author: Julian
Tuesday, 13 April 1999 - 07:47 pm | | G'day Caz, Edana, Everyone
Nah Caz, I'm dribbling and using my tongue to key this post just thinking about it.
I reckon Jack was a bit of a song and dance bloke like 'By the knife of the silvery moon'or 'Ripping in the Rain'. Da, de, da. or maybe a Joe Cocker fan, 'Unchain my Heart'.
Yeah, yeah, I'm going.
Jules |
Author: Caz
Wednesday, 14 April 1999 - 07:45 am | | Yeah, Jules, get outta here!
We'll have to start up a new 'musical' conversation to preserve our integrity in this place I reckon. Instead of letters from hell, we could call it Hell on Wheels, or Helen Wheels (Catherine Wheel's sis).
Hey that brings us back to fireworks and Prodigy's Firestarter. It's a cracker! Old Weedon had a nasty habit of setting things alight, nearly blowing up his parents' house once as a child. He also mentions that old favourite from November 5th called the Jack-in-the-box.
He liked nothing better than to 'light the blue touch-paper', call for the fire engine (impressions) and retire to a safe distance to watch the real Catherine weal display. Methinks he deserves a posthumous rocket and should at least have got his fingers burned in the process. Maybe Jack will finally go out with a bang (or is that my destiny? ha ha).
Oh, by the way, I picked up a cheap old photo album yesterday while browsing at my antique stall. Seems 'Yours Truly' was not the only one to use red ink, copperplate handwriting, and the odd 'catch' phrase like Ha, Ha, Ha! (sic). This time it was in 1898, and one of the comical snaps has a couple of men in boaters doing a Pythonesque funny walk. The caption reads as follows:
Aug 1898
'Elizabeth has gone. The beastly fat new cook can't make oat-cake or rockcakes, and so they are off to the pub, to drown their sorrows in DRINK'(sic)
Fascinating stuff, don't ya know?
Love,
Caz |
Author: Edana
Wednesday, 14 April 1999 - 08:21 am | | Well, yeah. Victorians had a sense of humor like anyone else (well, ok...some people don't). Even though they were straightlaced...maybe even because they were straightlaced (I hate that word...let's try gaylaced)...doesn't mean they didn't get silly sometimes. I think I'll go away now and reread 'The Remarkable Rocket' by my man, Oscar.
Edana |
Author: Bob_c
Wednesday, 14 April 1999 - 11:02 am | | Hi all,
Nothing much to add, unless it has to do with Lord T.... and the garden gate. I do remember long, long ago (in another time etc.) sorting though Gran's postcards of about that time.
There were some cartoons, like the one about a red-nosed type lolling against a lamppost before a not-amused, name taking, copper and lalling 'W-waiter... 'n.. zigaa, 'n gin n' z-z-zlate it 'til morra' Things don't change.
Best regards
Bob |
Author: Calogridis
Wednesday, 14 April 1999 - 09:23 pm | | Howdy All!
I'm thinking if the Ripper were alive today, he'd be jamming to White Zombi or Megadeath! By the way, Caz, I'm quite a Bob Marley fan. Hope you enjoyed the reggae concert.
Dekker- good ideas! John Douglas of the FBI surmises the Ripper to have been a quiet loner, probably employed in some job that wouldn't require much human interaction. He would have had a shy or mild-mannered appearance. He wouldn't have taken the overt risk of writing letters. However, as you point out, his crimes were designed to jolt the public, so it's possible that the profile is not exact and he took additional steps, such as letter writing, to get even bigger press. He probably also kept a large volume of newspapers dealing with the case, a la Son of Sam.
Cheers........Mike |
Author: Caz
Thursday, 15 April 1999 - 01:14 am | | Howdy Bob, Mike and all,
Yep, thanks, UB40 were wonderful, especially their new single, which goes, "The train is a-coming", which I can't stop humming. Bob Marley was great, wasn't he? No Woman No Cry is one of my faves.
Whaddya mean, Mike, 'it's possible that the profile is not exact...' Every serial killer is so different, surely? I'm very suspicious when people start surmising about profiles. Look at the contrasts between Denis Nielsen and Fred West, then check out their only obvious similarity, that they killed on their own doorstep, one for company, the other for pleasure. Then contrast Peter Sutcliffe, mild-mannered and unprepossessing, with Ted Bundy, boastful and charming.
A couple of things they may have in common here: male, somehow inadequate or insecure, and the paradox of wanting to be caught almost as much as not wanting to be caught (sorry, three things. Knew Monty Python would come in somewhere, grin).
I agree about the bundles of newspapers though. Much less incriminating than press cuttings, for when any house-to-house searches might start up. And my suspect would need to keep up with the times (and probably the Illustrated Weekly News too!), especially being a contributor to Punch.
Time out here for thinking of Anthony Newley who has sadly passed away. ("I'll never let you go, why? because I love you", remember that one, folks?)
Also thinking today of the victims of the Titanic and Hillsborough tragedies, April 15th, 1912 and 1989 respectively.
Love,
Caz |
Author: Edana
Thursday, 15 April 1999 - 08:29 am | | Hello folks!
Last Night on Entertainment Tonight they had a bit about a movie which is coming out about Son of Sam, David Berkowitz. There were film clips from when he was arrested, being led to jail in handcuffs, and there was an interview with him now. The most chilling thing about his appearance to me is that he did not give me the chills. There was no gleam of insanity in his eyes. He looked like an average, nice Jewish boy. And even now, he looks like a very nice, gentle man. The scariest thing about him is his 'born again' attitude. Anyhow, I was thinking that maybe that's what JTR was like in which case he might as well have been the invisible man. (Didn't Monty Python do an invisible man sketch? I seem to remember Eric Idle doing something.) There is nothing quite so invisible as a nice, quiet person.
Edana (voted head spokesperson for The Quiet Person's Guild) |
Author: Walter
Thursday, 15 April 1999 - 03:37 pm | | Hello all,
I apologize for my disappearance, but I had a golf tournament to attend. I concur with the idea that Jack probably kept many of the paper scraps detailing his 'antics.' Never thought about that, but it's a good point.
Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I had not gone astray.
Thanks for all the warm greetings, Bob and Jules.
Walter |
Author: l anseaume
Wednesday, 21 April 1999 - 03:03 pm | | | As a retired police officer, I find all the comments interesting.....however, the From Hell message seems to imply exactly that..."From Hell" no more, no less. It's intent is to cause terror which it seems to accomplished. |
Author: RED DEMON
Wednesday, 21 April 1999 - 03:42 pm | | | It seems that most of you, spear-headed by Yazoo, like to talk a big talk but spend most of your time wasting your energy on preposterous theories (i.e. two rippers). I think this chat room would be more productive if some of you would take time out to read some of the books on the case and maybe think an idea through before you print it. too many times have I seen a glaring error appear as fact under the name Yazoo. What happens then is some newcomer to the case takes that error as fact. it, in turn, leads him onto a particular path in his research. He then, loaded with misinformation, influences another newcomer. It's a never ending cycle. Please be more responsible. Personally, I think an intelligent discussion of the case and the letters inparticular with others who are knowledgable in the matter would be most fun. Don't you agree?... 'til next time. |
Author: Julian
Wednesday, 21 April 1999 - 10:56 pm | | G'day everyone,
Geez Red Demon I wish I was as perfect as you. I'll bet you even know who Jack was. But that's a bit of a problem for the rest of us. Ya see mate, we're still trying to work it out and in the process we occasionally come upon a piece of information that we accept as fact and from there we develope a theory and persue a train of research along that line. An incredible ammount of information has been garnished in this fashion and has added considerably to the investigation. Had this train of thought not been followed it is quite possible that this information would still remain burried. Please don't ask me to produce this information because I can't think of any off the top om head right now, and quite frankly I couldn't be stuffed.
And as for personally attacking someone in a post, mate, fair dinkum that's bloody reprehensible. You are asking us to be more responsible and yet you spit that crap out. I remember not so long ago I was given some information by a Dr which I posted to provide some information for people. It wasn't until later that I found that information to be incorrect. As everyone else has done when a mistake has been made, I apologised. I got my arse kicked, but I apologised and assured that in future I would check the quality of my information. I still intend to do this but cannot assure people that I will not make another mistake. I believe that I have also requested that researchers DO NOT take my information ay face value but instead check the quality of that information themselves.
Basically what I'm saying mate is that due to the nature of this investigation and the lack of physical evidence available, mistakes are going to be made. No lives are being threatened by these mistakes, only different aspects of knowledge are being learnt, and anything learnt is not a bad thing.
A bit of advice for the future mate, if you see an incorrect piece of information being supplied, in the next post politely ask the previous poster if they are sure about their information. It's as easy as that mate, fair dinkum.
Like I told another poster. If you really want to take the mickey out of someone, don't bother, it's a waste of time. Go and do some constructive voluntary work somewhere.
Jules. |
Author: Caz
Thursday, 22 April 1999 - 05:16 am | | Ditto mate.
God you are a hero, Jules, even talking to this 'figment'.
I don't think it gets out much, tied by hands and feet to a sodding terminal all day and all night, churning terminological inexactitudes (lies to you, RED) out of it's posterior. Probably doesn't even know it's doing it. If he/she/the cat's mother or any other close friend or relly of this crazy mixed-up soul is out there and gives a damn, they really ought to be doing something to help, instead of sitting back allowing their 'loved one' to dig such a hole for themselves. We have tried long enough. If anyone attacks me here, I have pledged to ignore them, but attacking Yaz or anyone else will no longer be tolerated. Be warned, RED and other DEMONS, Bob c will be back soon. Be afraid, be very afraid....(grin, no offence meant Bob, just rubbing my hands together in eager anticipation)
Love to all,
Caz |
Author: RED DEMON
Thursday, 22 April 1999 - 03:18 pm | | Wow! Thanks for setting me straight Jules and Caz. I didn't realize how harsh I sounded in my last missive until I read your responses and re-read what I wrote. I was coming down from some pretty mean cold medication when I wrote that. The only thing I'm suffering from now, however, is a guilty conscience. I hope you forgive me. Especially you, Yaz. I recognize that while all the information you post might not be 100% accurate, that your intentions are always honorable. And as far as Bob goes, I think he rocks! I'm new to the message boards, but I've printed out and have read/will read them all.
I, like most students of ripperology, while interested in every aspect of the case, have a little pet project involving one particular area of the case. For me, as most of you, this area is the 'Ripper Letters'. I have done a little research in this area and believe I have come upon a few points that may be of interest to you. I would like to share some with you, that is, if you don't hate me now. Please let me know.
Yours truly,
From the U.S.A,
RED DEMON |
Author: Julian
Thursday, 22 April 1999 - 05:58 pm | | G'day Caz, Red.
Hey Red, hate is not listed in my vocabulary mate. Trust, compassion and understanding are though. Please let us know how we can help.
Jules
PS. I hope you are over your cold. |
Author: Christopher T. George
Thursday, 22 April 1999 - 11:30 pm | | Hello, Red Demon:
Much better! Let me congratulation you on your nicer, more reasonable post now that you have come down off that pesty cold medication!
I for one would be very much interested in hearing what you have to say about the letters. I would enjoy engaging in a dialogue with you about them. Actually, I have an ulterior motive in this, which I should divulge, in that I am planning to give a presentation on the Jack the Ripper letters at the upcoming conference "Jack the Ripper: A Century of Myth" to be held in Park Ridge, New Jersey, April 8-9, 2000.
Perhaps you or others might be interested in attending. For more information on the conference, look at the Casebook Productions web site at http://business.fortunecity.com/all/138/
Chris George |
Author: Caz
Friday, 23 April 1999 - 05:12 am | | Hey Red, Jules and Chris!
Yep, I would also like to hear any constructive stuff about the letters, fact OR ideas. Sorry, Red, if I misjudged you. I never realised how badly a cold medication could affect the way a person thinks. Wow! If I were you I wouldn't bother with cold cures in future mate. A cold is a virus (about 200 different types I guess), so it just has to run its course. Medication sometimes does more harm than good by bringing your temperature down artificially. Your body is actually hot for a purpose, your immune system pumping out stuff to fight the virus. You will never get that exact same virus again, so people in middle age tend not to have many colds (they've had 'em all!), unless we get into super bugs and mutations and suchlike, aaargh! The time you need medication is when the cold turns into a bacterial infection (say chest), then it's time for the old over-prescribed antibiotics.
Just a bit of friendly info for next time (I guess you are not as old as me, I hardly ever get colds these days).
Chris!
I'm seriously thinking of attending the New Jersey conference. I shall check out the web site. Perhaps we could form a posse of Brits, Aussies, and American Casebook ripperphiles to add to the proceedings. D'ya think the floor would hold up under the weight? (grin)
Love to all,
Caz |
Author: Christopher T. George
Friday, 23 April 1999 - 07:41 am | | Caroline:
I am going to make a personal site inspection of the Park Ridge Marriott this coming May 22 in preparation for our upcoming convention April 8-9, 2000. We will test the floor to see if it will hold the likely weight of the assembled Ripperologists from all over the world. :-) Seriously, the more the merrier, we welcome all who have an interest in Jack to our conference.
Chris George
Treasurer
Casebook Productions, Inc.
jacktripper@fcmail.com
http://business.fortunecity.com/all/138/ |
Author: RED DEMON
Friday, 23 April 1999 - 03:48 pm | | Hello, Caz Chris and Jules,
My cold is doing fine, thank you! To be honest, it wasn't so much the medication I took as how much I took. Talk about irritable! Well, live and learn I suppose.
Caz: You seem like a young lady with a good head on her shoulders. Mature, yet hip. Here in the States, an intelligent woman with a good sense of humor is a rare commodity. I'm sure the ladies would say the same of the men. By the way, I'm 25.
Chris: You sly devil! trying to glean information from us to use for your own sordid purposes. Way to Go! I have been thinking of doing my own paper on the same theme for the conference. We'd probably make a good team. Have a look at this and tell me what you think:
REgarding the 'Ripper Letters', it's interesting to note that although the evidence for at least some of the letters having been authentic seems to outweigh that of them having been a hoax, the large majority of leading ripper researchers and writers tend to view the letters as little more than a 'red herring' or a nuisance in the way of real research. If truth be told, the letters are more like a nuisance in the way of many of these authors presenting a credible theory for their favored suspect having been the Ripper.
The favored theory of letter 'debunkers' is that the 'Dear Boss' letters were the product of a pressman's pen, and the Lusk letter and accompanying kidney the prank of an overzealous medical student. What proof have they? None. In fact, they have three primary arguments for the letters having come from a journalist; That the letter was recieved by the Central News Agency, as opposed to the police or a singular newspaper, more obvious choices for the average citizen, but not for journalist; that a journalist, outside of police officers who had been on the scene, would be most likely to have possessed the scant information found in the 'saucy Jacky' postcard written (I believe) on the day of the 'double event'; and last, but certainly not least, that many contemporary officials voiced belief that the author of the letters was indeed a journalist, and even boasted that they knew his name.
To name this man and show very reasonable doubt as to him having been the author of the 'Dear Boss' letter would surely blow the 'enterprising London journalist' theory out of the water, as it would discredit the opinions of the officials who claimed to have known who it was. Stewart Evans has named the man, and I will do the rest when I come back Monday. We'll also discuss how the Central News Agency and it's function may have been common knowledge after all.
Until then, I regret that I must be going. Here's a thought to ponder while I'm away. Why did the author of the 'Dear Boss' letter underline the word 'right'? Was he trying to tell us something about himself? I believe he was. Many have theories on this, but no one seems to have noticed the most obviouv one - he was refuting the claim in the press the he was 'left' handed. 'you're on the RIGHT track. He was laughing at them for making the blunder. What do you think?
Yours always,
RED DEMON |
Author: Calogridis
Friday, 23 April 1999 - 10:33 pm | | Howdy Caz, Chris, Jules, Red!
Lately, I've been accepting the "enterprising journalist" theory for the early Jack the Ripper letters. They strike me as too upbeat for the real killer, but I'm sure that's debatable.
I still like the "From Hell" letter as genuine. It had several strengths over the competition. It was accompanied by physical evidence that to this day seems fairly credible (though I wish we had even some prehistoric forensic methods back then). The letter strikes me as more sinister, though some levity can be discerned here as well. It sounds like its coming from the belly of the beast. And of course its not signed JtR- a small point, but the author isn't jumping on the band wagon.
So what's this about the "right stuff", Red?
Keep up the good ideas all! Best wishes.
Cheers.......Mike |
Author: Caz
Saturday, 24 April 1999 - 08:27 am | | Hi All!
I'd still like to know where the original of the famous 'Dear Boss' letter (written in the 'red stuff', ie red ink) had been kicking its heels for years, before being posted back to Scotland Yard anonymously in 1987, postmarked Croydon. Sounds too fishy for words!
Wonder if we will ever find out?
Love,
Caz |
Author: Jon Smyth
Saturday, 24 April 1999 - 08:56 am | | Oy Caz, owroight me ol' mate ?
Wats vis abaht ve Dear Boss letah cummin from Croyden ?
Duyya fink sumwun whu moit av worked at ve black museum years back moit av nicked it an' kept it ven sen'it back?
Ow many ex employee's lived in Croyden?
Would an ex employee be so stupid as to powst it back from 'is 'ome tahn.
Mus be sum ol' codger wiv a conshence.
Jon (obviously not born wivvin earshot of Bowbewl's)
:-) :-) |
Author: Caz
Sunday, 25 April 1999 - 10:51 am | | Hi Jon, me old mucker! 'Ow are ya doin'?
Your post hasn't really solved the riddle but I enjoyed it anyway (grin).
You wouldn't like to 'ere abaht the Cummings and Goings of Croydon, I'm sure mate! (or would you? They are a nice bunch. I could probably give you the lowdahn at a good price if you're up for it, on second foughts, best leave it aht....)
I've got this fond theory that someone sworn to secrecy ('til after their own death maybe) had instructions to send the dodgy stuff back and put Jack's more innocent mementoes into local libraries and/or antique stalls. This is assuming that the ripper was so much a part of the 'scene' that he was able to nick stuff at relative leisure from wherever he happened to have an interest (and that interest would surely include his own missives, if he sent any). Either that, or some old copper nicked the letter and his descendents found it eventually and did the decent thing. Christ, it could have been an innocent Mr. Plod whose great-grandchildren now think he was JtR!
As Mike says, it's probably a three-pipe problem and getting curiouser by the minute. Wish we could get Conan Doyle back to get Sherlock in on the case. I have a book containing letters sent to Holmes asking for his autograph! Hubby took a photo of one of the houses in Worthing from which one of the letters was sent. Sad people out there, even in those days! Some of the letters look surprisingly familiar....
See ya Jon boy!
Love,
Caz |
Author: Tom Wescott
Tuesday, 14 August 2001 - 11:32 pm | | "An Inspiration 'From Hell'?" - The article I wrote for the April issue of Ripper Notes concerning my research into the book, Letters From Hell (not Evans'), that I and others believe provided the author of the Lusk letter with his morose heading is now available to read in the 'Dissertations' section of the Casebook, courtesy of Stephen Ryder. I added a line giving credit to Larry Barbee for having originally identified the advertisement which led me to the book. I was not aware of Mr. Barbee's involvement at the time my article was written and published in RN and my sincere apologies go out to him. I hope this makes up for it.
So, for those who asked me about the article but didn't take my advice and subscribe to RN, or are newer to the site, you can now read it. There's not much there in the way of revelation, but I'd love to know what others think of the theory.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
P.S. I apologize about my ugly behavior in some of the other threads appearing recently. I truly do not enjoy having to defend myself against senseless accussations, but sometimes it is necessary. If some of you feel I went overboard, I apologize and hope it won't be necessary for a long, long time. Much love!  |
Author: The Viper
Wednesday, 15 August 2001 - 04:59 am | | The dissertation referred to above can be read Here. Oddly enough, after doing so only on Monday morning, I came across that afternoon some references to a Dr. George Macdonald, the man credited with the translating the book Letters From Hell from the original German (or Danish).
Assuming it is the same man - and superficially it looks very likely - Dr. Macdonald was a preacher and lecturer. In July and August 1889 he was giving a series of talks at the Union Chapel, Compton Terrace, Islington in North London. Some of these were documented in considerable detail by the local newspaper, the Islington Gazette.
One of Macdonald's lectures was entitled, "A Talk About Dante" in which he dissected the work of the thirteenth century Italian poet, best known as the writer of Inferno. Firey stuff, it seems, was Dr. Macdonald's forte!
Regards, V. |
Author: Christopher T George
Wednesday, 15 August 2001 - 11:09 am | | Hi, Viper:
Dr. George MacDonald (1824-1905) was a well-known religious novelist and divine of the nineteenth century. I am sure the series of talks in July and August 1889 at the Union Chapel, Compton Terrace, Islington, documented in the Islington Gazette were by the same man who translated Thisted's Letters from Hell into English. See http://landow.stg.brown.edu/victorian/religion/sermons/rhe9.html
Best regards
Chris George |
Author: Rosemary O'Ryan
Wednesday, 15 August 2001 - 01:13 pm | | And not forgetting his nephew...Dr Roderick MacDonald. Suspect as hell.
Rosey :-) |
Author: Jeff Bloomfield
Wednesday, 15 August 2001 - 09:38 pm | | George MacDonald was born Dec. 10, 1824 in
Surrey-Huntley, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. He died
there on September 18, 1905. He is best remembered today for his "Children's Classics",
THE PRINCESS AND THE GOBLINS, AT THE BACK OF THE
NORTH WIND, and THE PRINCESS AND THE CURDIE. The
Canadian publisher, Airmont, put out paperbacks
of the first two novels, which I have, but have
not gotten around to reading as of yet. |
Author: The Viper
Thursday, 16 August 2001 - 04:12 am | | Thanks for that everybody. Great stuff - especially the info. on Rod 'The Mod' MacDonald. J
Regards, V. |
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