Author: Ashleah Skinner
Monday, 21 October 2002 - 07:06 pm |        |
| I think he should be released after the way he was treated by HM Prison service after attending a dinner party. His wife was aware of "an intense media conflict" on Mr Archer i said release him |
Author: Garry Ross
Tuesday, 22 October 2002 - 07:24 am | |
Ashleah,
The man always seems to think he's above the law - while he was here in Lincoln the place was turned into a media circus and everyone was being asked if they'd seen him walking in the city centre - which of course most people had.
Although he hasn't murdered anyone he has still commited a crime and due to his 'standing' he should serve his time.
Just imagine the outcry if Peter Sutcliffe was allowed out of prison for an afternoon to help with some carpentry.
Lincoln prison isn't the top security place the media made it out to be although it isn't very nice in there and the suicide rate is fairly high.
No fax machines in the cells and only one video player in the whole building...terrible 
take care
Garry |
Author: Ashleah Skinner
Tuesday, 22 October 2002 - 08:01 am | |
Garry,
I think he should be allowed out because when he went in the old Max prison he got kicked in the balls and had boiling hot curry thrown over him.
Also he has payed back the money he illegally obtained thorugh the 1980s libel trial
Its true that if you do the crime you dothe time but he has payed bacck the money and for prison staff to leave a 63 year old to get beat up i think he should be released.
Put yourself in his position |
Author: Garry Ross
Tuesday, 22 October 2002 - 08:19 am | |
Ashleah,
I don't know any prostitutes round here who I can bribe with handouts
The thing with the dinner party was that he knew the rules but still decided to break them - I agree that most day release prisoners don't get the media attention that he has but if he hadn't put himself into the positions (no pun intended) that he keeps doing then perhaps he wouldn't be locked up today?
If they released him due to a bit of bad treatment that most people get inside then there'd be an even greater outcry and the old "one rule for the rich..." saying would come into play.
You only need to look at poor Ronnie Biggs to see the difference in treatment.
One of my friends had stolen some food from a supermarket and got locked up for 6 months, he suffered bad depression and was beaten up twice and got stabbed while inside but he never whined about it, it made him think again about trying to hide a turkey up his shirt and all the other things he'd pinched previously.
Prison isn't supposed to be a holiday camp and much worse goes on every day without us hearing about it.
Archer has constantly lied and tried to get other people to lie for him too to save his own skin and he's still managing to profit from it all.
Although he did have exceptional taste in the Lincoln restaurants he went to, which I can also recommend
take care
Garry |
Author: Ashleah Skinner
Tuesday, 22 October 2002 - 10:17 am | |
Gary
For YOUR information lol Mr Archer did not brak break rules when he attended the party
(1) HM Prison Service allows him to travel 55 MILES radius within the outside of the prison, he was within 33
(2) Also HM Prison Service bans alcohol although alcohol was present evidence shows he did NOT take any
So..... what rules DID he brake???????? |
Author: Garry Ross
Tuesday, 22 October 2002 - 10:46 am | |
Ashleah,
He had a pizza with extra mozzerella on it and when hardened can be used to make peoples hair really greasy
I think the main concern with the prison service was that he never told them he was going to a dinner party in the first place.
If I had my way all convicted politicians and Lords etc should be publicly sponged with custard at a top football ground every Saturday...call me old fashioned
take care
Garry |
Author: Guy Hatton
Tuesday, 22 October 2002 - 12:19 pm | |
| He should just count himself lucky that the International Criminal Court isn't going to be trying cases of crimes against literature |
Author: James Jeffrey Paul
Monday, 06 January 2003 - 09:57 pm | |
| "Bad guys" who bring a certain panache and guiltless egotism to their wrongdoing often end up becoming folk heroes--even those who committed much worse crimes than Archer did, such as Billy the Kid, Jesse James, and Dick Turpin. Do any of you out there view the smiling, chutzpah-poisoned Lord Archer as a folk hero? |
Author: Christopher T George
Tuesday, 07 January 2003 - 04:53 pm | |
Hi, James:
I can't say I view Archer as a folk hero but there are a number of ingredients in his personality that make him charismatically interesting to the public. For example, he has shown a great capacity to land on his feet no matter what hot water he gets into, to write brilliantly and successfully, and to provide endless entertainment in the scandal rags. Like certain suspects, notably Dr. Tumblety, he seems to attract controversy and have a penchant for landing himself in sticky situations of his own making. I see him as an amiable rogue. I suppose there's something admirable in that. When he goes, there'll be a void left.
All the best
Chris George |
Author: James Jeffrey Paul
Tuesday, 07 January 2003 - 06:10 pm | |
Chris, "Like certain suspects"?
You mean--Lord Archer was the Ripper?
Egad, this is the biggest scoop of the century! |
Author: chris scott
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 12:05 pm | |
James - how can someone be guiltless in their wrongdoing?
God forbid this loathsome man ever becomes a folk hero!
And Chris I can't agree he is an amiable rogue - he is manipulative, unscruplous self-server and nothing more.
I think one of the reasons he surfaces still so often in publicity in the UK is that he is a reminder to people of how utterly devoid of principles the last conservative government was. Blair and his cronies are far from angels and are leading us down some paths which IMHO we should be not be following.
I just hope that once this sad affair of Archer is over he gets the anonimity he so richly deserves
Chris S |
Author: James Jeffrey Paul
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 12:18 am | |
| Chris--I said that he was "guiltlessly egoistic"--e.g., so egotistical that he commits crimes without a sense of guilt. |
