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Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Victims: Specific Victims: Catherine Eddowes: The Goulston Street Graffito: Archive through May 20, 1999

Author: Jon Smyth Friday, 14 May 1999 - 07:16 pm
The Jewes are not the men to be blamed for nothing For anyone who believes that Jack was a Policeman, consider this....... The City Police Headquarters were at 26 Old Jewry. (You didn't hear it from me folks :-) )
Author: Caz Saturday, 15 May 1999 - 04:40 am
Hi Jon! How's it hanging mate? Love, Caz
Author: Jon Smyth Saturday, 15 May 1999 - 08:19 am
Some responses, I laugh at, some I can't wait to reply to, then some.... I can almost anticipate,.... but that one ?!!............ :-)
Author: Caz Sunday, 16 May 1999 - 06:28 am
Sorry Jon! I greeted Bob c in the same way recently and he just said 'Fine thanks'! It's a way of teaching everyone a bit of Brit-speak, that's all. It doesn't mean anything untoward unless you want it to, :-) Same as the graffito I guess. Did whoever wrote that in Goulston St. know just how cryptic he had made his message? Was he laughing at us all as he chalked it up? It certainly hasn't been solved to anyone's complete satisfaction yet, has it? We still go round in circles trying to analyse those 11 little words. My 4 words are no longer a mystery, as I've explained. So, Jon, how IS it hanging? :-) Love, Caz
Author: Jon Smyth Sunday, 16 May 1999 - 09:59 am
(I knew what you meant Caz) Fine thanks !! But why did you have to go spoil it ???!!! My imagination's been working overtime !!! Why did you have to pick the most mundane, boring explanation you could think of ???!!! Ahh well,....back to reality :-( -------------------------------------- I can't see graffiti like that being around for too long in a predominantly Jewish residence, and if their was a gathering around the wall by Police and others. And if the Police made enquiries in the building it would have been easy to determine from all those who lived there, how long the graffiti had been around. All the Police had to do was ask, and due to the attention it got even after it was rubbed out, I feel pretty sure that any number of people who would come and go through that doorway would simply say to Police or press, that it had been there some time, if indeed that was the case. That would have been a busy spot to write graffiti so all those passing it would know of it if it was there for any length of time. Considering that, I think we maybe led to the conclusion that it was recent. The question is....'Is it Jack related?' I feel that to consider it from the Ripper is then to entertain the idea that it must refer to Jack first being interrupted in Berner St. then going on to kill again. In this case he is saying, 'The Jews are to blame for the second kill' And that leads me to consider Stride was a Ripper victim....which I do not think she was. So, this is a problem for me. Maybe we are assuming too much. Chalk this one up to confusion. So, Caz .....How're they swinging ? :-) Jon
Author: Caz Monday, 17 May 1999 - 07:24 am
Hi Jon, Over on the Jack the Ripper and Goulston St. Letters boards, I have been 'swinging' some ideas around with some of the others about this very topic. I assume that is what you mean by your question? :-) And they are swinging very well today thanks, my inspiration coming straight from the heart and unfettered so to speak. Which reminds me, I'd better get a few more clothes on, it's past midday! God, I'm glad this internet stuff isn't like video-conferencing. I wouldn't want to put anyone off their lunch :-) Hang in there all! Love, Caz
Author: Edana Monday, 17 May 1999 - 08:27 am
How's it hanging? Right now, a little low and to the left, thanks for asking. Edana
Author: Caz Monday, 17 May 1999 - 10:38 am
Hey Edana, old thing! Wish you could have been there with us for Patience on Saturday night. Bunthorne and Grosvenor were utterly too too, and as for the 20 blushing young maidens, well they couldn't count very well, either their years or numbers! The old dear in the front row kept nodding off, we thought she had expired at one point (a bit disconcerting for the players). It was all Little Caz and I could do to restrict our laughter to the relevant bits! Keep hanging around, and I'll certainly keep swinging. Love, Caz
Author: Edana Monday, 17 May 1999 - 01:09 pm
Caz, Yes, I would have loved it! I have a video tape of a college production of Patience which is really quite good actually. I love the lyrics, they're so.....yallery. Edana
Author: Jon Smyth Monday, 17 May 1999 - 05:55 pm
Re: Hanging, swinging, drooping, etc.... C'mon guy's I'm about to be outnumbered 'ere !!! Ok, then you miserable lot, if I'm gonna be left ta fend fer meself, I'll go for scare tactics !!! Look ye fair maidens unless ye wish forever to be charged as Ripper Groupies and from here-on forthwith never to hold your head up high........I bid you cease and desist !!! Ye know not, with whom ye mess !! ************************************* Abandon hope all ye who pay no heed (even this kind of humor has been a welcome change from those who engage in backstabbing, uppercut, forearm smash, underhanded, vindictive, sarcastic exchanges of late,) If anything about the Ripper comes to mind.....don't hold back,..ok ? !!!! :-) :-) :-) Regards, Jon
Author: Julian Monday, 17 May 1999 - 07:24 pm
G'day everyone, Look to the hills fair maidens, for Sir Jules of the Perky Pecker cometh to the aid of valiant Sir Jon of the Wonderous Willy. I therefore challengeth thee fair Lady Caz, to a duel of swinging bits, while noble Sir Jon doth battle Lady Edana till one or the other falleth from exhaustion. Till the morrow then. Jules (Sir)
Author: Jon Smyth Monday, 17 May 1999 - 10:42 pm
I'd prefer to stear this back to Ripper stuff, sport !!! And that doesn't help....whats the SIR for.....do you wear a crown, Jules ?? :-) :-) Jon
Author: Glenda Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 02:20 am
Hi, everyone! I think even the "lady" Catharine might have blushed on reading some of these postings. :-) Cheers, Glenda.
Author: Caz Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 02:09 pm
Hi Glenda! Lady Catharine blush? Nah, I don't buy that one, girl. She was one outgoing, feisty female, only overpowered by one weak-willied, blade-wielding weirdo. Hand to hand combat and a flash of her knickers would have floored most of the un-gentle sex, and got them begging for mercy to boot! Yeah, Jon. Your post of 05:55pm May 17th was full of ripping stuff, wasn't it? :-) I do agree about the humour though. I was terrified you would all be looking forward to some horrid mud-wrestling scenario ere long :-) :-) And why do women posting here automatically become 'Groupies' when there are more than one of them entering the fray? You fellas have had it your way for too long, normally surrounding us fluffy girls with enough JtR talk to sink a battleship! And as for duels with Sir Jules, thou knight of the Perky Pecker??!! Me hardly thinks twould be a fair contest between our swinging bits, sport. (Psst! I haven't even had a butcher's at your weapon, melord. Is it a bloody great lance, a shortsword, or Ken Dodd's tickling stick? In other words, do I need me smelling salts before battle commenceth? My own weapons are extremely inoffensive, so I'm hardly equipped for doing serious damage.) Help me hence, ho! I feel quite faint all of a sudden. :-) Love, Caz
Author: Edana Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 02:39 pm
Forsooth and odds bodkins, prithee cast thy weapons hence...gird your loins, churl! I must needs end this sorry missive, else the ever growing Pistoff monster rears it's Hydra head. Lady Edana Aldys Haukyns thejuwesarenotthementhatwillbeblamedfornothing
Author: Julian Tuesday, 18 May 1999 - 08:19 pm
G'day Caz, Edana Prythee fair Ladies my weapons are but mere kisses of rare gentleness and light caresses of kindness. So fear thee not. Jules (With Crown)
Author: Caz Wednesday, 19 May 1999 - 04:56 am
Hey Edana! I'm sure we must be related girl. We share the same name, the same tastes, you name it.... Faretheewell for now, fair Coz. I am in the East and Sir Jules is the son (who will no doubt end up being blamed for something) :-) :-) Hey, this board is much more fun than the other Goulston Street one. Maybe it's Cath's fair presence casting her sense of love and (mis)adventure over all who enter in.... Love, The Fair Damozel Caz
Author: Ashling Wednesday, 19 May 1999 - 05:42 am
Hi y'all. EDANA: If you have time, please take a look at the other Goulston Street board. I'm wondering if your experience and research on costumes, etc. can clarify how women's pockets were worn. Were they sewn into clothes, tied with strings around the waist on the inside or outside of clothing, carried in the hand like a purse, or what? Thanks. JON: What (if anything) were you implying on your opening statement on this board? That Jack was pointing the finger at himself? ... Like that guy who wrote in lipstick on mirrors - "Stop me before I kill again." ?? Take care, Ashling
Author: Jon Smyth Wednesday, 19 May 1999 - 10:43 pm
Ashling: I guess it's all in how you read it, as with many poste's, it's not only the frame of mind of the poster, but also the frame of mind of the reader, that leads to misunderstandings. :-) :-) Actually, that was just a joke......but who know's ? I may be onto something !!!!....But I won't hold my breath :-) Regards, Jon
Author: Caz Thursday, 20 May 1999 - 06:11 am
Hi Jon, Glad to see we didn't scare you off with all our 'duel' purpose stuff and nonsense. :-) Hi Ashling, Great work as usual. I would also like to know more about the 'apron' bits and pieces, and I was only jesting about the other board being less fun. There have been some wonderful contributions there, especially Stewart's. Sailors and aprons do conjure up HMS Pinafore for me, but I haven't seen it since I was ten! I believe it will be in production this October so I will try to book it soon. Love, Caz, jigging to 'Living la vida loca' right now, wonderful cheering music. Love the bit that goes, 'she'll make you take your clothes off, go dancing in the rain' Hey Jules, it's your Full Monty cue :-)