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Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Victims: General Discussion: Victims buriel sites
Author: Tricia Barrett Monday, 29 March 1999 - 02:17 am | |
A while back I found a page with photographs of the victims buriel sites but I can't seem to locate it now. Can anyone help?
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Author: John Malcolm Monday, 29 March 1999 - 09:29 pm | |
Hello Tricia, There was a selection of photographs in the casebook under "Victims' Graves" which I printed for my own collection, but I can't remember exactly where I found them. If you don't get a more specific response I'd be glad to mail you copies of what I have. I have some pretty decent original photographs of Mary Kelly's grave also, if you're interested. Drop me a line. john
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Author: Tricia Barrett Tuesday, 30 March 1999 - 02:13 am | |
Hello John, Thanks for your reply. I would be very interested in having copies of the photographs. I have my own JTR folder so they would be a great addition. Tricia
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Author: Ashling Tuesday, 30 March 1999 - 03:51 am | |
Hi Tricia & John. We have a new mystery & it's driving me nuts ... I saw those photos of victims graves a few weeks ago & now I can't find them anywhere. John, if you printed them directly off the Casebook, there should be an address at the top of your pages. Would you mind seeing what follows after http://ripper.wildnet.co.uk/ I'd appreciate it. Take care, Ashling
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Author: Stephen P. Ryder Tuesday, 30 March 1999 - 09:29 am | |
Hi Tricia, Ashling, John, et al. Apparently we plum forgot to include the victims' graves section when we changed the format of the Casebook! I'm surprised I haven't noticed this before, but thanks for bringing it to my attention. I should have the old page and graphics on file somewhere, I'll rummage about and see if I can't get them back on here by tomorrow. Sorry about that! Stephen
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Author: Ashling Tuesday, 30 March 1999 - 04:44 pm | |
Hi John, Stephen, Tricia. Thank you Stephen! Another mystery solved by the Casebook gang. Take care, Ashling
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Author: Tricia Barrett Wednesday, 14 April 1999 - 03:45 am | |
Hello Stephen Any luck with the victims' graves yet ? Thanks Tricia
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Author: Connie Nisinger Saturday, 03 July 1999 - 09:10 pm | |
Going to London in August & would like to know where City of London Cemetery at West Hampshire & City of London at Manor Park are located--can't find either on any map. Can anyone help?
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Author: Tricia Barrett Sunday, 18 July 1999 - 03:25 am | |
Hello Connie The City of London Cemetary at Manor Park is in Aldersbrook Road, Manor Park London E.12. I have not heard of a City of London Cemetary in West Hampshire but there is one in Southern Grove London E.3 which was the City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetary. Annie Chapman was buried in the first one and the second one is very close to Whitechapel so would have been used for that area. It would be useful if you bought a London A-Z Street Index. Hope you enjoy your trip. Tricia.
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Author: Dave Yost Sunday, 18 July 1999 - 07:43 pm | |
Hi Guys, Would like to add that the individual burial sites for the victims are mentioned in Ripperana #14, page 15, including plot numbers. They are also given on the CP web site under the individual time lines for the victims which may be found at http://business.fortunecity.com/all/138/cp_investigates_jtr/time_lines/ Cheers, Dave
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Author: Tricia Barrett Monday, 19 July 1999 - 11:20 pm | |
Hello Dave Have just visited the web site you mentioned. It was very interesting with lots of useful information. I did'nt know it was there. Thanks for informing us. Tricia
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Author: Edana Tuesday, 20 July 1999 - 04:55 am | |
There's an interesting site on the web called 'Find A Grave'. You can do searches and find out where just about anyone who was anyone is buried (with some exceptions...much to my dismay). MJK's grave is represented. I haven't checked out the other victims though. Tumbelty is there also. Check it out...it's at http://www.findagrave.com Edana
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Author: Dave Yost Tuesday, 20 July 1999 - 09:01 pm | |
Most welcome Tricia. Thanks for the URL Edana...will check it out. Cheers, Dave
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Author: Christopher George Wednesday, 21 July 1999 - 04:59 am | |
Hi, folks: An interesting observation here is that Mary Jane Kelly, but not the other victims, is listed in an Internet listing of the graves of famous people. She has in a way achieved superstar status. No doubt her alleged beauty in comparison to the other victims, the mystery of her life (stories of high class prostitution in the West End and Paris, etc.), and the thought that she may have been the center or object of a conspiracy to murder, all come into play here, combined with the gruesomeness of her corpse in the famous photo. Chris George
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Author: Christopher George Wednesday, 21 July 1999 - 05:11 am | |
Hi, all: This will teach me to check before I post. I had previously looked at the internet Find-A-Grave site http://www.findagrave.com and had failed to find Annie Chapman. Indeed, Annie is not listed. However, the grave sites of Catharine Eddowes, Polly Nichols, and Elizabeth Stride are all listed, along with that of Mary Jane Kelly. Thanks for letting us know about this useful resource, Edana! Chris George
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Author: Jane Monday, 20 September 1999 - 03:49 am | |
Considering that originally there were no gravestones marking the spots - who arranged the stones for Stride, Nicholls and Eddowes??? I think that a reverand John Morrison or something paid for MJK's because I saw a photo of him in Peter Underwood's book Something on the others please??? Thanks Jane
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Author: Andrew Shea Thursday, 25 January 2001 - 01:04 am | |
According to the info on Casebook.org, Annie Chapman's gravesite has been lost. Apparently, she was buried in a mass grave and the area was later "reused." I'm not sure what that means, but my guess is that they covered up the mass grave and put a row of regular marked graves on top. The current caretakers don't know exactly where her body is buried.
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Author: Alexandria Calet Friday, 27 April 2001 - 10:31 am | |
A burial site being reused does indeed mean that other later burials were put in over the top. Although individual grave plots were often sold freehold (this has become a problem now since income has dried up while maintenance costs have soared), mass burials of people buried as paupers (I would imagine this was the fate of all the JTR victims) were reused after a time. These mass burials had no memorials to confuse the issue for later purchasers anyway. Records were seldom kept in sufficient detail to allow an individual in a mass grave to be located.
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Author: Walter Timothy Mosley Friday, 27 April 2001 - 12:51 pm | |
FYI: The graves of the canonical JTR victims are now one of the 'Posthumous Reunions' on the Findagrave site. Courtesy of yours truly, except that they have not yet abstracted the photo of Stride's grave. WTM
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