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My God, mother! Blood! Blood!
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My God, mother! Blood! Blood!
Author: John Dow
Saturday, 27 July 2002 - 01:49 pm |        | Greetings all.
Apologies in advance for grossing anyone out, but I think everyone on this board is of a fairly strong constitution 
I've just been out pottering in my garage and managed to stand on a small piece of broken crockery. The resulting cut, in the ball of my foot (silly chap I am - no socks or shoes on) was 5mm long and (judging by the blood on the fragment I pulled out) about 2mm deep.
Anyway, I hopped into the kitchen and, on noticing the puddle collecting under me, gave my wife a call so she could come and give me a hand with first aid without the children noticing and freaking out.
Why would they freak out, you ask.
Because my little cut had generated a puddlespreading out from under my foot that was approximately 8 inches in diameter. Both feet were liberally splashed with claret, and the whole situation was fairly unpleasant.
Bizarre person I am, my first thought was of whitechapel
Murdering, for example, Kate Eddowes and being largely free of blood because of the direction of the cuts in her throat? I think not - the man must have been *saturated* - there's no avoiding it. Also, the singular lack of redstuff under Annie Chapman struck me.
Discuss
John |
Author: Divia deBrevier
Saturday, 27 July 2002 - 02:05 pm | | Dear John:
Well, I'm no expert... but being as your feet are the lowest points of your body (no comments from the Peanut Gallery, please) it stands to reason that you would bleed quite a lot from them. Gravity and all that, you know. In your blood vessels there are these little gates that help to push the blood up your legs. That's about all I remember from Biology class. I was too busy harvesting body parts during frog dissection week.
By the way, best get that tended to, mate!
Divia |
Author: John Dow
Saturday, 27 July 2002 - 05:45 pm | | Divia,
It shouldn't matter - blood pressure is (I believe) pretty much homogenous throught the body. Having said that, rate of flow will obviously vary depending on the diameter of the vessel - still the amount "leaked" over time should be the same. It's the *area* that bothered me - it's the old "spill a cup of tea and you think it's a flood" thing again.
It's well and truly tended to - still bloody sore though
John |
Author: Simon Owen
Saturday, 27 July 2002 - 09:14 pm | | My little dog cut his paw and it soaked a whole hand towel with blood , so I totally agree with what John is saying here ( my dog is better now by the way , he had his paw bandaged and was alright again in a few weeks ! ).
The lack of blood at the Eddowes and Nichols and Chapman crime scenes has been explained away ( compare these to the Stride crime scene - blood everywhere ) but its always been my opinion that these 3 victims were killed somewhere else , maybe even Kelly as well. |
Author: Howard Brown
Saturday, 27 July 2002 - 10:09 pm | | | A guy in my crew at work recently severed his right thumb clean off with a vertical band saw...Nearly zero blood loss.I likewise almost took my left one off 20 years ago....same thing: no blood...Only I wasn't a wussy like my pal: I was back to work the next day. He took three days off. Strangely,I recently was bitten rather "gently" by a Norwegian elk hound on my hand.Sumbitch took two hours to stop bleeding.....Not being a medical dude,I suppose the speed in which an object slices/cuts and its location would determine the volume of blood lost. |
Author: Leanne Perry
Sunday, 28 July 2002 - 04:04 am | | G'day John, Divia, Simon, Howard,
John, were you dead BEFORE you stood on the small piece of broken pottery? Blood pressure is homogenous throughout the body, while the heart is still pumping!
Obviously Jack knew that killing his victims first, would minimize the flow of blood on his person.
All victims were killed exactly where they were found!!!!!
LEANNE |
Author: Billy Markland
Monday, 09 September 2002 - 10:33 am | | Regarding the puddles of blood under foot.
Many years ago when undestructable, i.e., a teenager, I attended a party held on a farm. For some reason, back in those days, I went bare footed most of the time during summer. During the course of the evening, I had to step out back and unfortunately (I was winning in poker for once!) I managed to step on a broken pop bottle. Blood came out quite rapidly (they used a hose to clean out the place later) and I had an unexpected trip to the Emergency Room for stitches. Per the attending physician there are two (or was it three?) small arteries very close together in the soles of your feet. I had managed to cut all of them.
You can file this under the "For what it's worth" heading.
Best of wishes,
Billy |
Author: Graham Jay
Tuesday, 10 September 2002 - 05:57 am | | | On a first aid course I took, they told us that in the case of major cuts (eg severances) blood vessels tend to constrict and therefore blood flow can be quite minimal. Which would explain some of the above posts |
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