Author: Howard Brown
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 09:42 pm |        |
| Ivor: He's serious !!! I..I...I th-th-think he's gonna do it !!! Gasp ! N-n-now what are you g-g-gonna do ?? Howie The Pratkicker |
Author: Ivor Edwards
Wednesday, 08 January 2003 - 10:12 pm | |
Howard,
Go on the dole by the sound of things. Have I come this far only to see the riches I deserve escape me? please tell me it cannot be true and that the prat jests with me.
David,
If you borrow my book from the library I still obtain a small fee so all is not yet lost. The best course of action open for you would be to blank my book completly then you will be the one who will not profit. |
Author: judith stock
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 12:34 am | |
David, baby...you have GOT to get more of a life!!
Ivor, dear, I not only bought several firsts of your TRUE first (the one done for Bournemouth), but I also have the hardcover.....bought legitimately, and not nicked! Keep on keeping on, Ivor, and please sign my h/c when I come to L'pool, OK?
Cheers,
J |
Author: Christopher-Michael DiGrazia
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 10:27 am | |
Ivor's book has garnered a brief review in the January Ripper Notes (now out). It was originally reviewed by Chris George when it first came out as a Penny Press softcover with accompanying map, and he noted then that it was an "important contribution to Ripperology". The new version boasts an eye-catching cover and has a clear, crisp layout which allows the reader to ponder Ivor's brief against D'Onston at leisure.
In my (admittedly novice) opinion, I think Ivor has most certainly done his homework in putting forth a very credible case against Roslyn D'Onston. The sticking point for me - as it is for a number of readers - is the entire 'black magic' aspect of the solution. Does this mean I am a bit blinkered? Probably so. But Ivor's book is essential if you have read Melvin Harris, and is by turns provoking and intriguing. I do not recommend it to a novice to the GVM, but I do recommend it.
Looking forward to seeing you in Liverpool, Ivor!
CMD
Editor, Ripper Notes
(sorry, have to put the advertisement somewhere!) |
Author: julienonperson
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 04:40 pm | |
Hi Howie,
Looks like some things never change!! Glad to hear your great review on Ivor's book. I have
three books now on the way from Amazon, so I
now will order Ivor's.
julie,
Ivor,
Good work, sounds like your book is going to do well. I can't wait to read it. I hope you don't
have to go on the dole if David doesn't buy your book.
best wishes
julie |
Author: Howard Brown
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 05:09 pm | |
| Julie; I'm glad that you're gonna buy Ivor's book. He deserves ALL of our support in getting the word out...There's a lot of people that,as Steve Ryder said,will become interested in the case because of Mrs.Cornwell. Good. Now its our opportunity to sort of steer 'em towards books like Ivor's and all the other great researchers like DiGrazia,George,Westcott and the established authors. Hey who knows ? Next year,maybe someone will protest that Ivor is a man-hating lesbian whose logical applications are faulty. THAT is an argument in which I will personally vouch that Ivor IS a "woman in comfortable shoes"..all in jest. Howard |
Author: Chris Phillips
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 05:44 pm | |
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Author: April Cooper
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 06:52 pm | |
Hi again everyone.
First of all I want to say THANK YOU to everyone who answered my original post about "Jack the Ripper" books. Where would I go to purchase Ivors book?? You were all very helpful to me and I appreciate it. :-)
April |
Author: David O'Flaherty
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 07:03 pm | |
Hi, April
If you go to this site's main page, you'll find a link to Ivor's book.
Cheers,
Dave |
Author: Ivor Edwards
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 07:18 pm | |
Hi Judith,
Glad to know that it was not nicked !!!and I will be happy to sign it for you at Liverpool. I will not charge you 8 quid either (I do it for free ) which was the sum Paul Feldman was charging to sign his book!!!!
Dear Julie,
I do not know if they have the dole in the USA but if they do then I will go on the dole there then my money will come out of the taxes paid by David.If so then it might be cheaper for him to buy a copy of my book after all!!!!
Hi Christopher,
Thankyou for the kind words and yes I hope to see you in Liverpool. |
Author: Ivor Edwards
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 08:13 pm | |
Howard,
How right you are in your comments. Many people on these boards including those who have never published have a far greater insight into the murders than authors like Cornwell and a few others ever hope to have.If I wanted to know about bricklaying I would not not consult a plumber suffice to state if I wanted to know about JTR I would consult people on these boards I would not go to the likes of Cornwell!!!Crap work should never be published because of the size of someones bank balance or clout etc.Such work should be published on merit and experience of the subject matter in my view.As you correctly stated some of the best names in the game can be found here and they deserve to have their knowledge of the subject published.
PS. On the subject of plumbers and bricklayers I will leave you with this thought, If a bricklayer lays bricks does a plumber lay plums ? |
Author: julienonperson
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 08:20 pm | |
Hi Howard
I agree with you that we should support our friends on Casebook. I have to wait for Ivor's
book for a month, unfortunately. I noticed that
Patricia Cornwell's book has been reduced in price considerably on Amazon. It must not be a
good seller, Ivor's book is more expensive.
I don't intend to buy her book though, her book
the suspect, the DNA and the quickness of it all
just seems too convenient. I disbelieve the DNA
evidence, etc, etc,.
How are your girls, good I hope.
regards julie |
Author: Trevor Robert Jones
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 08:21 pm | |
Hi Ivor,
I have a copy of your book and a very good read it is too !
I hope you will sign mine at Liverpool .
Kind Regards ,
Trevor. |
Author: Ivor Edwards
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 08:40 pm | |
Hi Trevor,
When I hear that you and others enjoyed reading it that for me is payment enough. I will be glad to sign it for you at Liverpool, Best wishes. |
Author: Howard Brown
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 09:32 pm | |
| Julie: Thanks my dear for asking about my gals. The oldest is 24 today ( born on Jimmy Page's birthday, he's 59.Yeah I planned that one !!!! ) and the little 'un is phenomenal. Ives: I hate when you get cryptic on me...what do they lay ? But on a more serious note,lets take one poster who has come here in the last month or so ( unless I am mistaken and in which case I stand corrected...) and that man is Mr. Chris Scott. This man has provided more interesting links,photos,and pertinent material than almost anyone,along with Chris George,another phenomenal guy,since the Cornwell/Sickert book hit the scene. This guy,Chris Scott,is one of those guys who digs the trenches and unearths relevant material for free. No 6 Million buck payoff....and no hype for his effort. He has been a virtual website of his own. Like the other folks mentioned,he deserves mentioning. I see on the other threads how some fellow posters are arguing/debating about Mrs.Cornwell and how "we" should not say this or say that about her. Rank and file guys like me just don't buy the schmaltz and thats where it ends. Going around and around about her to me seems like a bit of a waste of time. I think that some folks think that having her involved with the Casebook site,would be a good deal. Having her explain certain aspects of this and that...chatting with her about this or that...whatever. Maybe we ought to have individual threads where we can ask,for example,Ivor or Stewart Evans, specific questions about their methodology. What obstacles did they encounter in their research? Which previously unknown detail raised the hair on their necks? Things of this nature. There is an awful lot of grey matter on these boards going to waste. I used to be in American Mensa and I saw the same thing there....intellectualism for the sake of intellectualism. So,maybe in the future,for example,someone can ask Chris George,on his own thread,which specific detail led him to favor Stephenson( for example...). Maybe within these boards,there is some previously untapped area that could pop up ( much like Chris Scott did...)? Just an idea....now back to the crack pipe........Later |
Author: David Radka
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 10:45 pm | |
When Ivor Edwards farts, it is a sweet perfume. That's the feeling I get from reading these posts.
David |
Author: judith stock
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 11:05 pm | |
Get over it, David; no one is out to get you OR your theory; the situation is simple.....you tend to piss people off, and Ivor doesn't. Relax, take another Prozac, and lighten up.
J |
Author: Howard Brown
Thursday, 09 January 2003 - 11:28 pm | |
| Hopefully the women folk aren't offended by the content of the resident Onanist's latest offering above....How much would it cost for you to move next door to me,Radka,I'm serious. I can get you a job ( away from people considering your social skills...).... think about it. Take my advice and start a thread as I mentioned above. The A.R Thread...start posting stuff and we'll join later....we promise. |
Author: judith stock
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 12:59 am | |
Dear Howard,
I'm not offended, but then I have changed my daughter's nappies, and HER daughter's nappies, cleaned up baby/puppy/kitty barf, delivered puppies, turned a foal within its dam's uterus, and been present at autopsies....so not much Dave says can offend me. There is only ONE word that offends me beyond belief.....just one, and I would bet that every female on these boards is offended by that word, as well. I have NEVER used the word, but I tend to go nuclear when I hear it used in ANY context. All other words are fair game.
The condition of STUPIDITY offends me...NOT ignorance, STUPIDITY.
Cheers,
J |
Author: Warwick Parminter
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 05:17 am | |
David, what a lovely phrase, that really conjured up misty pictures.
Ivor, I'm jealous,--no, envious |
Author: Caroline Morris
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 07:49 am | |
Hi Judy,
You wrote to David:
'...the situation is simple.....you tend to piss people off, and Ivor doesn't.'
That is, IMHO, only your HO.
IMHO, David tends to piss some people off, Ivor tries to piss some people off. 
I still wish both men every success trying to please everyone with their respective theories.
Love,
Caz |
Author: judith stock
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 10:52 am | |
You're probably right, Caz...and I should have qualified that, but it seemed appropriate at the time!! However, we ALL have made people crazy, angry, frustrated, etc..it just seems that David goes out of his way to be belligerent and insulting; Ivor defends himself and his theory in a VERY strong manner. And, as an aside, at the very least we know what Ivor's theory is!! Don't know about you, but I DO see a difference there.......
Have a great weekend, Caz.
J |
Author: Monty
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 12:14 pm | |
Smell the roses, Dave...smell the roses.
Monty
|
Author: Ivor Edwards
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 01:47 pm | |
Mr Radka,
Why you feel the need to be so crude I do not know. You have however proven by your comment that you have the charisma of a sewer rat and the social graces of a weasel. |
Author: Ivor Edwards
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 02:07 pm | |
Hi Caroline,
I wondered how long it was going to be before you piped in with your half penny's worth.
When it comes to offending people you are the resident expert in that department and Mr Radka could certainly learn a trick or two from you.
Things were fine here until he and you decided to place your opinions where they were not required.The only people I appear to offend are those resident trouble makers who deserve no better judging by their comments to others and please spare me your sanctimonious rantings which I see straight through. |
Author: Caroline Morris
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 02:32 pm | |
Hi Ivor,
I certainly don't feel offended by anything you have written to me or about me. But keep trying if it makes you happy.
Love,
Caz |
Author: David Radka
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 10:38 pm | |
Caz,
Thank you, my lady, for your serene presence and gentle graces.
Love,
Dave |
Author: Richard P. Dewar
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 10:48 pm | |
Hi all,
I have never seen Caz offend anyone - though I have seen her frustrate people when she applies logic to emotional situations.
Rich |
Author: Ally
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 11:15 pm | |
Hi Richard,
Then you haven't read enough.
Ally |
Author: Richard P. Dewar
Friday, 10 January 2003 - 11:54 pm | |
Hi Ally,
I apologize for stating my opinion.
Obviously what I wrote about Caz is untrue.
What you say, as always, is right. In fact, I don't think you have ever been wrong about anything ever.
Thanks a lot for making sure we all know what's what.
Best wishes,
Rich |
Author: Billy Markland
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 01:21 am | |
Judith, uhhh, just being curious, which one word gets you ballistic? I am not trying to be a smart-a$$ just curious. If it is one of the same two words I am thinking of, they get me P.O.'d also ( the B-word or the N-word). As a guy, I take the masculine 5th on using the F-bomb
Love your insight!
Billy |
Author: Ally
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 07:50 am | |
Hi Richard,
I appreciate the change in attitude. This one is much more becoming on you. Do keep it up.
Ally |
Author: Caroline Morris
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 10:58 am | |
Hi Rich,
You sycophantic toady, you! Clever, though. You managed to keep us both smiling.
Love,
Caz |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 01:07 pm | |
Billy,
I hesitate to throw my opinion out there, but if I had to guess (from my experience with my girlfriend), it would be the 4 letter c-word that rhymes with something I do to deer that Judith hates.
Women just can't handle that one.
B |
Author: judith stock
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 05:05 pm | |
You got it in one, Brian, law partner in Dewey, Cheatem and Howe! Now I know why we work so well together. That one is guaranteed to put one on my S*** list forever. Listen to your girl friend, Brian!
Cheers, partner!
J |
Author: Richard P. Dewar
Saturday, 11 January 2003 - 08:56 pm | |
Caz,
I am not smart enough sometimes to know in advance what the party line is. Fortunately, there are people here who are never reticent to let me know.
I am practicing my anti-Cornwell prayers right now. Caz, do you have a Paul Begg voodoo doll? Oh, wait, never mind, I can't find my pins.
Regards,
Rich |
Author: Caroline Morris
Sunday, 12 January 2003 - 03:23 am | |
Hi Rich,
'I have never seen Caz offend anyone...'
I have to agree with Ally and say that you couldn't have read enough to make that statement.
To see Caz offend someone is not to read Caz's words, but to read the reactions of the person who chooses to take offence.
You only have to read some of the reactions to my posts to see that a small number of posters are extremely thin-skinned and take huge offence at the slightest thing. One poster even used to find offence in my smiley faces :-) (in the days before the acceptable face of the icon )
Funny things is, the ones who take most offence at trifles are almost always the ones who indulge in insult and personal attack, and condone and encourage the same in others.
Is there a psychologist in the house?
Love,
Caz |
Author: Richard P. Dewar
Sunday, 12 January 2003 - 04:19 am | |
Hi Caz,
Actually, you are right. I should have said that I have never seen you write anything offensive.
A cadre of cluckers sqwak and squeal when someone dares utter a word that violates one of their most endearing axioms (ie, your rather reprehensible habit of requesting the accuser supply facts with their accusation).
Caz, can't you just get with the program? Remember:
1. Cornwell is insane
2. Cornwell has said she hated everyone who ever picked up a Ripper book
3. Cornwell is a liar
4. Cornwell knew all along that Sickert was innocent. Heck, she buried the evidence
5. She ordered VFI to doctor the results
This is the mantra, Caz. Repeat it over and over to yourself before going to sleep.
Remember, to believe in civil liberties is to aide the terrorists. . .to request fairness for Cornwell is to insult all those who are interested in the case. . .
Please, Caz, you must read the party notes. . .what are you, a Communist?
Regards,
Rich |
Author: Caroline Morris
Sunday, 12 January 2003 - 05:51 am | |
Hi Rich,
I'm not requesting fairness for Cornwell in particular. But I do find it laughable that some of those who attack her, whether or not the consensus is that she 'deserves' it, get in a right old two and eight (cockney rhyming slang: two and eight = state) with anyone who express the slightest disagreement with their arguments and ideas, whether or not the consensus is that they 'deserve' it.
I prefer just desserts to deserts, just or unjust.
Love,
Caz |
Author: Brian Schoeneman
Sunday, 12 January 2003 - 11:29 am | |
Caz,
Are you referring to me?
B |
