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Blotchy Face Man

Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Suspects: Ripper Suspects: Blotchy Face Man
Author: Robeer
Saturday, 06 July 2002 - 01:02 pm
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To all,

Is this yet another description of Blotchy Face Man?


Quote:

The London Times, 10 Sep 1888

On Saturday evening a somewhat suspicious incident occurred at Deptford. About 7 o'clock a man in a hurried manner entered the shop of a newsagent in Grove-street, near the entrance to the Foreign Cattle Market, and in an excited tone asked for a copy of the special Star containing an account of the Whitechapel murder. The newsagent replied that he had not one left. The man then asked for a special Evening News, and received the same reply. "Then," said the man, "let me have a special anything." The newsagent was at the time reading the special Standard, and told him he could have that if he liked. The man snatched the open paper from his hand, threw a penny down upon the counter, rushed out of the shop, and, by the light of the gas in the shop window, appeared to eagerly and excitedly read the account of the tragedy. Indeed, his manner and appearance were so remarkable, that the newsagent suspected that he might be in some way connected with the murder, and leaving the shop, told a boy who was passing to hurry away for a policeman and bring one back to the shop immediately. The boy started off, and the newsagent returned to his shop, and on doing so was observed by the man, who appeared to become alarmed at the circumstance, for he crushed up the newspaper in his hand, started across the road, ran down Emily-place, and disappeared. The newsagent is of opinion that he probably ran that way towards a car on the Deptford and Southwark Tramway which runs to Tooley-street, and would take him out of the neighbourhood in a few minutes. The man wore an old felt hat pulled well forward over his eyes, and his coat collar being up, the impression of the newsagent is that he was endeavouring to conceal his features. He was of stout build, full-chested, rather ruddy complexion, slight moustache, a beard scrubby or of several days' growth, and looked, to use the newsagent's words, "as if a little soap would have done him good." He was wearing an old brown overcoat, well worn and greasy at the pockets. He stood about two minutes outside the shop reading the paper, and was watched by the newsagent through the window. A constable afterwards came to the shop and took down in writing the statement of the newsagent.



Robeer

Author: Tom Wescott
Saturday, 06 July 2002 - 11:04 pm
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Robeer,

The 'Blotchy-faced man', who was most likely John Anderson, was red-headed. This report fails to mention this obvious distinctive trait, so odds are the man being described was not red-headed. The term 'ruddy complection' means that his face was reddened, probably by alcohol. The Blotchy-faced man, like John Anderson, was probably the victim of a skin condition. Also, the man described in the article above does not appear to be dressed as a sailor, as Mr. Blotchy was. So, it is probably not the same man, but it was an excellent suggestion on your part. Who knows, they COULD be the same person, but since this article is all we have to go from, and the differences in description are so many, it would not be possible to build a convincing argument for it.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Author: Robeer
Saturday, 06 July 2002 - 11:36 pm
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Tom,

As far as I know, you are the first to put a name to BFM. Where did you find a source of information on the identity of this suspect?

As to the press report it is true that 'ruddy' does not necessarily mean 'blotchy'. The problem is witnesses use different adjectives to describe people and places, ie.: one man's road is another man's lane is another man's street, etc. This is part of the 'cul-de-sac' debate. So is this witness using 'ruddy' as a synonym for 'blotchy'? We don't know but I though it was worth mentioning.

How does the rest of the description match? From memory it seems BFM was stocky, had a carroty moustache, and was dressed in shabby clothing.

Robeer

Author: Leanne Perry
Sunday, 07 July 2002 - 07:56 am
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G'day,

The paragraph below the one mentioned above, in the 'London Times' says: 'A man was arrested at Deptford yesterday afternoon on suspicion of being connected with the East-end tradgedy, but there is reason to believe that he will be able to establish his innocence and will soon be released.'

As the incident with the newsagent happened at Deptford, does this mean that the man with the ruddy complexion was arrested then released?

LEANNE

Author: Tom Wescott
Sunday, 07 July 2002 - 02:31 pm
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Robeer,

I wish I could claim to have been the one to put a name to the Blotchy-Faced Man. However, I know of the name John Anderson because of an old newspaper article that was reprinted in Ripperana. I'm aware that Chris George also finds the John Anderson/Blotchy Faced Man scenario interesting.
And you are right that 'ruddy' may have been used as a synonym for 'blotchy', but since in actuality the words mean something different, it would be rather difficult to PROVE that the witness meant 'blotchy'.
Yes, Blotchy had a 'carroty mustache'. However, the mustache of your suspect above is only described as 'slight'; in other words, small.
Please provide me with an e-mail address and I will send you a transcript of the news report discussing John Anderson.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott


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