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Jill the Ripper
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Jill the Ripper
Author: D L Lewis
Wednesday, 30 August 2000 - 08:51 pm |        | It's interesting that no-one seriously believes this theory - are women incapable of serial murder? (Rosemary West springs to mind.) However, the original theory stated (allegedly by Arthur Conan Doyle) was that a MAN was dressed up as a woman, (a midwife, possibly a euphemism for abortionist) and could escape undetected covered in blood.
Of course, there are several points against this. No witness saw any woman at any relevant time, save possibly the victims. And the M. O of the murders allowed very little bloodspill. No evidence exists to implicate a man. One man named "Mary" was questioned, but let go.
Could it have been a woman. Blackmailing abortionists have been destroyed as a subject. However, the High Rip gangs give a plausible account. If Knight is correct,(and he is correct in some details, though not in general) the victims knew each other. Did they hate each other? Could each one successively murder (and be murdered) by the next?
So, was Polly Nichols murdered by Annie chapman, who was murdered by Catharine Eddowes, who was murdered by Liz Stride, who, caught in the act, murdered by Mary Kelly, who was finally murdered by person or persons unknown?
Dotty, yes, but no dottier than Clarence, Carroll or gull... |
Author: Leanne Perry
Thursday, 31 August 2000 - 05:50 am | | G'day D.L.,
I've just written a 'Ripperoo' feature story, researching female serial killers.
Female serial killers have been around for as long as male S.K.s! They mostly choose 'silent' methods like strangulation or poisoning!
The Ripper M.O. does not indicate a female!
Leanne! |
Author: Jim Leen
Thursday, 31 August 2000 - 11:21 am | | Hello DL and Leanne,
I see no real physical reason for JTR not being a woman. After all, Bonnie Parker, Myra Hindley, to some extent Mary Pearcey and I'm sure there are others, don't seem to fit into the sugar and spice women are poisoners etc role.
If one considers the situation that JTR was not an individual but a team Mary Pearcey would be an extremely viable candidate. She was found guilty of killing her lover's family, chopping them up, then ferrying them through the streets in a pram to dispose of the remains. On the eve of her trip to the gallows she sent a telegram to some foreign newspapers for the attention of a person or persons unknown. "Have not betrayed" was the gist of the enigmatic text. Could this perhaps be an indication that she was telling the Jack half of the partnership that she had not confessed their actions whilst awaiting execution?
The simple fact is that we are looking at a fairly unique and, hopefully, rare behavioural pattern. I don't think it is justifiable to throw blanket profiles over large sectors of the populace, be they Jews, women, or left handed saxaphone playing carpenters, on the premise that they, (Jews, women, or left handed saxaphone playing carpenters) would never commit such atrocious deeds. Certainly it may be improbable but, nevertheless, it is not impossible.
Thanking you, implying no offence and trusting that the much bandied misogynist label will not be attached to the back of my coat.
Jim Leen |
Author: Neil K. MacMillan
Tuesday, 10 April 2001 - 10:15 pm | | I've always thought it a facinating theory. A woman? Why not. I don't personally ascribe to it but I'd love to see evidence to support it. Of Course there are and were women serial killers. As Leanne (G'day, Leanne) points out they tend to use poison. Some act in concert as did The Bender Family in Kansas in the early 1870s (Ma, Pa John and daughter Kate) Of course, their motive was robbery. There was also Belle Guinness who was also motivated by money but there are others who tended to use poison.
I do find the round Robin theory a bit far fetched. Being as Jack was never caught, I, until I see evidence to the contrary, will continue to believe only one person carried out the murders.
Was it a female? I believe not but I think it is possible. Who knows, a stubborn old coot like me might actually change his mind as the evidence piles up. Kindest reguards, Neil |
Author: Martin Fido
Wednesday, 11 April 2001 - 06:40 am | | This is already going on on another board. use the 'Keyword search' for Belle Gunness or 'Aileen Wuornos' and you'll come to it.
All the best
Martin F |
Author: TS Simmons
Thursday, 14 February 2002 - 10:40 pm | | | Jill the Ripper theory is Nonsense. Focus on the real facts. |
Author: Michael Conlon
Monday, 18 February 2002 - 06:15 pm | | | -Just came across this in a U.S. paper for 1889: "Lawson Tait, the eminent gynaecologist, in an interview today said he was of the opinion that the Whitechapel murders were committed by the same criminal, probably a lunatic woman employed in a slaughter house and subject to fits of epileptic furor." Just great! I spend years assiduously developing my mad,epileptic, Whitechapel slaughterwoman theory and it seems someone has already thought of it before. Damn you, Lawson Tait!!! |
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