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Archive through May 4, 1999

Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Suspects: Specific Suspects: Later Suspects [ 1910 - Present ]: Thompson, Francis: Archive through May 4, 1999
Author: Stephen P. Ryder
Saturday, 14 November 1998 - 04:30 pm
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Francis Thompson

Author: jgarlo
Tuesday, 23 February 1999 - 06:26 am
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I logged on to this website for the first time yesterday and I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw Thompson's name. He is well respected in this town [Preston, Lancashire] and there is a plaque over his birthplace in Winckley Street. I thought the Maybrick business was tosh, but this really takes the biscuit.

John Garlington

Author: Julian
Tuesday, 23 February 1999 - 11:03 pm
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G'day John,

Fair dinkum mate if your people are gunna put a plaque over the birthplace of someone who was a drug addicted medical failure and got kicked out of the army for failing drill then attempted suicide with a ghost, can I come over and get knighted for my addictions and failures.

I guess the bloke did write some nice poetry about maidens being chased through the darkness and having their guts ripped out.

Sorry mate, I'm having a bad day. No offence meant.

Julian

Author: Caroline
Wednesday, 24 February 1999 - 03:14 am
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Hi Jules,
I had a b-awful day myself on 23rd. I felt kind of lonely somehow. My music keeps me going though.
Keep smiling mate.

Love,
Caroline

Author: Julian
Wednesday, 24 February 1999 - 04:52 pm
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Thanks Caz, I guess I was out of line. After all, who have we got in our history? Some idiot Irishman who went around shooting policemen, and a horse..

Sorry all.

Jules

Author: Caroline
Wednesday, 24 February 1999 - 05:14 pm
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Hi Jules,
you are never out of line. That name Kelly sure comes up a lot lately, doesn't it?

Your girlfriend doesn't like Rolf Harris, does she?

Night night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.

Lots of love,
Caroline

Author: Julian
Wednesday, 24 February 1999 - 11:50 pm
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G'day Caroline,

It's only about 4.00pm over here and I've still got a Trivia night to go to.

I'm not to sure about Rolf Harris but Barbara Striesand is right up there. I kinda prefer some layback Smashing Pumpkins , Grimspoon, Hole, Dinosaur Jnr, AC/DC etc.

I wonder what sort of music Jack got into? Were there any late night theatres/rock and roll stadiums in Whitechapel that he could have disappeared into?

Have a great night everyone, keep those great discussions happening.

Jules

Author: Caroline
Thursday, 25 February 1999 - 03:43 am
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I know exactly what Jack would be singing while others were tickling the ivories (wasn't there a 'Yours truly' missive which mentioned something about tickling up ovaries?

Pumpkin pie is smashing, you are right, you need a long 'Grim'spoon to sup with the devil, dinosaur bones have come up already on these boards, and AC/DC kind of speaks for itself!

In my book there is not a lot of 'bad' music.
Unless of course you count Nina and Frederick, possibly Leonard Cohen, Leapy Lee's Little Arrows, and anything which smacks of line-dancing (I call it music for the rhythmically challenged, but taste is a personal thing).
One of Barbara's songs is an all-time favourite of mine, but that's about it.

See ya,
Love,
Caroline

Author: jgarlo
Wednesday, 03 March 1999 - 10:34 am
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When you have finished your cosy goodnight chat with Caroline, perhaps you would tell me which poems Francis Thompson wrote which implicate him in this strenuously physical murder.
He was, of course, physically inept in every way so I will be very interested to see your theory.

John Garlington

Author: Julian
Wednesday, 03 March 1999 - 06:51 pm
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G'day John, you could have joined in mate. We don't mind cozy 3-way goodnight chats

Anyway, from the information on the Suspects pages, there was a poem called 'The ballad of the Witch Babies' which he sent to Alice and Wilfrid Meynell. This poem depicts a youg bloke chasing women around and ripping their guts out.

His short story 'Finis Coronat Opus' is about a young poet who sacrifices a woman in a pagan temple.

I think at the time Jack was doing his thing (and even much later) everyone who was a wee bit demented was considered suspect, hence our latter day pharmachologist, Mr Thompson.

The fact that some people were physically incapable of comitting these crimes or in other cases, weren't even in the country, does not eliminate them as suspects. The reason for this is, a lot of this information does not come to light until the suspect is named.

Hey Caz, I reckon line dancers should be dope tested, in both senses of the word.

Have a special night John.

Jules

Author: Caroline
Thursday, 04 March 1999 - 03:57 am
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Hi John, Jules,
I guess joining in is what it's all about really,
so line dancing might have its merits after all. I don't mind a good barn dance. The trick there is to wear a really tight pair of old Levis, and when you dozey-do a new partner, you watch where his eyes are falling. If you bend down to pick them up, he may just make it to the cold buffet and raffle.
I'm not really into cozy threesomes but I might stretch a point to include John if he begs nicely.

Love,
Caz

Author: jgarlo
Thursday, 04 March 1999 - 10:45 am
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Dear Jules and Caroline

Sorry, don't know how to beg.

If Caz wear tight jeans you won't need to look where anyone's eyes are.

I am certain Joseph Barnett did it.

Why not implicate Robert Bridges for good measure? He wrote some heavy stuff at the time, as did Tennyson - and Thomas Hardy was only 49 - a better bet than Tumblety. Gerard Manley Hopkins was in Ireland at the time but being a Jesuit priest there must be some reason for ripping. Oh, Edward Elgar was a frustrated man at the time and he was certainly young enough [22].

Joseph Barnett did it.

May your jeans never get tighter

See you both sometime,

John.

Author: Julian
Thursday, 04 March 1999 - 05:25 pm
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G'day John Caz

I'd love to go line dancing Caz but I'd keep tripping over my tongue, especially with beaut sorts like you there.

Joseph Barnett was certainly a chief suspect as out line danced in the book The Simple Truth, but the only thing that connects him to the murders is a very vague theory that because he wanted Kelly off the streets he went around murdering prostitutes to try and scare her back into his arms.

Joe was a pretty strait sort of bloke, worked hard, didn't mind a beer every now and again, perved on the sheilas etc, etc, your average sort of bloke who loved Mary. This is not the profile of someone who goes around conducting medical experiments on ladies of the night without their permission.


I'll continue this conversation soon but I've got a bit of work to do at the moment.

Jules

Author: Caroline
Friday, 05 March 1999 - 03:21 am
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Hi John, Jules,

Don't you dare implicate Thomas Hardy, d'ya hear? Or I'll have the hounds of the Durbervilles on ya.
I don't think Jules was suggesting for one moment that Thompson dunnit, was he? I think we are all in agreement here.

I think Joe would have been deep in doggy dos if we were talking late 20th century policing methods, as I've said before here somewhere. In 1888, the police never went for the 'obvious' and 'easy' nick, so goodonem is all I say.

My Levis came from the Scope charity shop. I paid about £4 for them (tight wad that I am), practically boil-washed them, and I call them my second skin. I admit that Christmas was a problem, but I'm back in them now, so just waiting for the next hoe-down-----yehaaaaarr and all that cobblers.

Love,
Caz

Author: Julian
Monday, 08 March 1999 - 09:38 pm
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G'day John, Caz.

Yeah John sorry if you thought I was accusing Francis, I wasn't. I was just trying to explain why he was placed here as a suspect. Fair dinkum.

Hey Caz I thought ya wuz sposed to wear Wranglers to them thar boot scootin shindigs. Ya got spurs girl?

Gotta go.

Handshakes and hugs.

Jules

Author: Caroline
Tuesday, 09 March 1999 - 01:50 pm
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Don't need 'em, Jules. I'm not into inflicting pain. I'd rather soothe the opposition into submission. Far more satisfying mate.
Fair dinkum, think this board's all washed up.

Ta ta all.
Love,
Caz

Author: Julian
Wednesday, 10 March 1999 - 08:34 pm
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G'day Caz and anyone else whose been following the escapades of our Boot-skootin Brit.

I reckon this board should be held in prosperity as an example of how easy it is to unintentially get a little bit side tracked.

I wonder what inspired Francis to write those poems and thing anyway? As John has indicated there were others around at the same time who were writing similar stuff. I suppose Mary Shelley's story was just treated as a horror story at the time too.

Was there any relationship between the Monster and the JtR murders?

Jules

Author: Rich
Wednesday, 17 March 1999 - 02:46 am
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Richard Patterson. Here
The Australian who introduced the Thompson Ripper theory. Detailed in my book 'Paradox'. any questions can be sent to
darkly_burning&hotmail.com

Author: Calogridis
Tuesday, 23 March 1999 - 11:24 pm
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Howdy All!
J.K. Stephen could really tickle an iambic pentameter as well. Maybe he and Thompson were part of the same literary guild. One of those blokes could have even been Pipeman! Keep up the good work. This was a fun board to read!! Cheers....Mike

Author: AlexG
Tuesday, 04 May 1999 - 06:09 pm
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hey all,
im an american actually too young as people like to call me im a 13 year old gurl who lives in the usa the ho down state north carolina just kidding. i am person who liked to get into these kind of things weird but thats ok.I think that maybe the killer whos name is called jack the ripper maybe the inspiring subject to francis and his short stor(y)(ies) and poems is.i think before jack the ripper got his name he might be quite well know as a famous killer in london and surrounding cities.
it just a guess not sure but could be soemthing.
c'yall later
Alex.

 
 
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