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Casebook Message Boards: General Discussion: General Topics: Fortean times
Author: Monty Saturday, 19 January 2002 - 11:30 am | |
Hello All, As I was passing through WH Smiths (a warm short cut to work) , I noticed a copy of Fortean Times. And lo, on the cover was a silhouette of our Jack. Apparently there is an article by Nick Warren on all the leading suspects. Had no time to pick one up but I shall do on Monday. I thought I'd mention it in case anyone is interested. Monty
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Author: Christopher T George Saturday, 19 January 2002 - 05:25 pm | |
Hi Monty: What precisely is the Fortean Times? I keep hearing about wierd and wonderful things that they publish but I don't know what their raison d'être is. Would somebody care to fill me in? Thanks! Yours in ignorance, Chris George
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Author: Neil K. MacMillan Saturday, 19 January 2002 - 07:47 pm | |
Chris: Charles Fort was a gentleman (British as I remember but I may be wrong on that point.) who started cataloguing bizarre events and such to disprove them. Ironically he didn't and his collection is somewhat reknowned. He formed the Fortean Society and I believe the Fortean times is their monthly magazine. It has been a while since I've read anything on him so I am hazy on the details but I think I have it generally. (Any ripperologists out there who find i'm wrong, let me know.) Kindest regards, Neil
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Author: Christopher T George Saturday, 19 January 2002 - 08:22 pm | |
Hi, Neil: Thanks! That's a help. Best regards Chris
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Author: jennifer pegg Sunday, 20 January 2002 - 05:18 am | |
have forteen times (was in the same smiths probably and picked one up!) it has two JTR features one is on pattie cornwall and how she brought all those paintings and there is a beginners guide to JTR both by Nick Warren, who also wrote a review of from hell in there too! febs eddition apparantly! jennifer
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Author: R.J. Palmer Sunday, 20 January 2002 - 08:29 am | |
Neil--You're pretty close, but Fort was actually an American from New York, though he did live many years in London, collecting much of his information at the British Museum. I also don't really think Fort was 'out to disprove' the strange facts that he collected; I think he was making a rather wry comment on science --feeling that scientists tended to ignore 'clumsy facts' [such as ball lightening, frogs falls, etc] rather than approach them using the scientific method. By the way, Nick Warren also had an short article on people with green skin a few months back. Cheers, RP
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Author: Monty Sunday, 20 January 2002 - 11:08 am | |
Jennifer, You swine !! You took the last copy again Chris, The above has explained for me. There used to be a tv programme called originally "Fortean TV". The host was Rev Fanshaw, a biker Reverand and he always finished the show with a pesh little ditty that made me laugh out loud. He had a gormless mate with him that played the guitar...fantastic ! Monty
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Author: jennifer pegg Sunday, 20 January 2002 - 01:46 pm | |
i did not take the last copy! i'll have you know that there was a healthy pile whwn i bought my copy on tuesday!
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Author: Paul Begg Sunday, 20 January 2002 - 04:28 pm | |
Hi Chris Charles Hoy Fort was, as R.J. states, an American who collected reports of all manner of weird and wonderful things which he published first in a book called "Book of the Damned" - the 'damned' being the strange things of which he found reports and the reality of which were denied. His second book was "Lo!" and as I recall I liked it the best. The third was "Wild Talents". All are well worth getting hold of, if for no other reason than Fort's delightfully quirky writing style. I don't thunk he founded the Fortean Society. Rather it was founded by his "fans" who founded a Fortean Society in the U.S. and gave the name 'fortean' to all things peculiar that Charles Fort would have noted - falls of fishes from the sky, vanishing people, and so on. "Fortean Times" began many many years ago as a small circulation magazine like RN and the Rip and grew... But do get Fort's books.
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Author: Scott Nelson Sunday, 20 January 2002 - 07:33 pm | |
Another of his books was called "New Lands", and the best IMO. The four books he wrote were combined into a compliation hard-back volume (I can't remember the publisher offhand). Upon Fort's death in 1932, Tiffany Thayer founded the Fortean Society (actually it was to Fort's amusement when she informed him of her plans as he lay dying in the hospital).
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Author: Jeff Bloomfield Sunday, 20 January 2002 - 08:25 pm | |
Actually, Fort's style's pleasant originality is a matter of taste. He can be turgid and overly overwritten. As for his facts, it is instructive to reexamine them as they appear in their original newspaper or magazine accounts - Fort took the "facts" and liked to embellish them quite a bit. Jeff
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Author: Guy Hatton Monday, 21 January 2002 - 04:20 am | |
Monty and Jennifer - Your assignment, then, is to unravel the mystery of the disappearing Fortean Times! Cheers Guy
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Author: Monty Monday, 21 January 2002 - 08:38 am | |
Jennifer, Im sorry, please except my apologies. Guy, Are you suggesting an X-file team up with Jennifer and I? An F-File if you will? OK, bags Scully, something about power suits that make me come over all.... ..Anyway Jennifer, you up for it? Monty
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Author: jennifer pegg Monday, 21 January 2002 - 01:25 pm | |
no id prefer to read my copy of forteen times and get fat eating junk food
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Author: Guy Hatton Tuesday, 22 January 2002 - 04:12 am | |
Maybe the Reverend Fanshaw knows something about it all...
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Author: ASEGERDAL Tuesday, 22 January 2002 - 05:58 am | |
Hi Monty. I see from your profile that you live in Leicestershire. I lived in Coalville until I was 18, then moved to London. Went to school at Ashby de la Zouch. Which town do you live in and is it near Colaville? Cheers, Alastair Segerdal
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Author: Monty Tuesday, 22 January 2002 - 07:53 am | |
Jennifer, Fair enough, Alastair, Ashby de la Zouch eh? Home of Freddie Deeming. Im a Anstey boy. Quite near Coalville, 20 mins max. So tha's a pit boy then? Monty
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Author: Christopher T George Tuesday, 22 January 2002 - 01:18 pm | |
Hi, Paul and Jeff: Thanks for your additional insights into Charles Fort and the Fortean Times. I appreciate your input. Best regards Chris George
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Author: jennifer pegg Tuesday, 22 January 2002 - 01:28 pm | |
i didn't know fred deeming was local! how local was he?
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Author: ASEGERDAL Wednesday, 23 January 2002 - 07:20 am | |
To Monty and Jennifer: Is Fred Deeming the offspring of Charles Deeming who owned the three cinemas in Coalville, and had a daughter named Barbara? And are you, Jennifer, related to a Mr. Pegg who had a business in Coalville? Mind you, I'm going back to folks who were around in the 1940s!! Either way, great to hear from you both. All the best, Alastair Segerdal
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Author: Monty Wednesday, 23 January 2002 - 07:53 am | |
Jennifer, Check out the Deeming thread. Theres a report from the Mercury in there all about him. Alastair, I cannot see him as being an offspring but a relation?,yes its possible. Monty
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Author: jennifer pegg Wednesday, 23 January 2002 - 01:41 pm | |
coalville, i am not related as far as i know. tara me duck!
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