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Jack the Sportsman

Casebook Message Boards: General Discussion: Research Issues / Philosophy: Jack the Sportsman
Author: Peter R.A. Birchwood
Wednesday, 11 April 2001 - 12:22 pm
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Would it help us in our enquiries if we knew what sports or games individual suspects played? Was Tumblety a baseball player or did he just enjoy riding? Were Kosminski or Cohen too poor to consider a sport other than just staying alive? Chapman liked sailing and of course Druitt enjoyed Fives and Cricket.
But does anyone know of a suspect in any serial murder who was a Golfer? It's the only sport I ever enjoyed and I played reasonably well until I was disabled and I've always kept it in mind when reading true crime but have not yet found a murderer who spent his days on the golf course. Apart of course for those who made a business out of murder like Machine Gun Kelly who I believe kept his clubs in the boot of his car together with his spare Tommy-Gun.
If it could be shown that Druitt was a member of the Royal Blackheath Club, it might make him a less-likely suspect.

Author: Martin Fido
Wednesday, 11 April 2001 - 01:05 pm
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Beware of the Potters Bar golf course, Peter. When in my misspent pubescence I discovered the titillating existence of a true crime section in the public library, I thought it must be the most frightening place in England, since not one but two murders had been discovered on its tranquil greens. At that age I really feared that some one would be likely to pop out and despatch me if I ever went there, and was thankful it was such a long way from Cornwall!
Martin F

Author: Judith Stock
Thursday, 12 April 2001 - 12:05 am
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Although not a serial killer, Michael Skakel obviously enjoyed the hell out of his golf clubs!


Hi, Peter.... how about a pint in Bournemouth?

And Martin, will you be able to make it, or must we wait for Baltimore to chat again?

Judy

Author: Martin Fido
Thursday, 12 April 2001 - 07:01 am
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I'll be lucky if I make either, Judy. Getting away from caring for the infirm is expensive and takes longterm planning. (E.g., it cost more for me to hire in a competent minder for ten days than my combined costs of travel to and in and accommodation in Turkey over the same period. The need to have a minder at the daily rate if my wife and I are away from the Cape together for more than a maximum of 3 hours also puts a heavy brake on relatively local visiting. Thus I've been here 14 months without being able to do anything about going for a drink with the delightful Ripper enthusiasts known to live in other parts of Massachusetts). Unless I have other reasons to be in England in the autumn I certainly shan't be in Bournemouth. I have no idea at this point whether death will have terminated my responsibilities by the time of Baltimore, in which case I'm likely to have resumed residence in England to cut out the Atlantic barrier between me and my children and grandchildren.
"We'll meet again... don't know where... don't know when..."
Martin

Author: Jeff Bloomfield
Sunday, 15 April 2001 - 05:36 pm
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Dear Peter,

Thinking about your initial question, it occurred
to me that if one accepts that Mary, Queen of
Scots was involved with the Earl of Bothwell in
the murder of her husband Lord Darnley at
Kirk'o'field in 1568, then your search is over.
Mary enjoyed playing golf!

Not Jack the Ripper, perhaps, but close.

Jeff

Author: Peter R.A. Birchwood
Monday, 16 April 2001 - 02:01 pm
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Jeff:
Was it golf or was it the Scottish equivalent of the Dutch game Kolbe played with similar clubs. Not to absolve Queen Mary of involvement in the Darnley murder but I think there is evidence either way.

Author: Christopher T George
Monday, 16 April 2001 - 03:03 pm
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Hi, Jeff and Peter:

Is it definitely proved then that Darnley was killed with exploding golf balls or, a-hem, kolbe balls? And what was that game they played with David Rizzio in Hollyrood Palace? Hide the stiletto?

Chris

Author: Jeff Bloomfield
Monday, 16 April 2001 - 09:57 pm
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Dear Chris and Peter,

I am not sure about the game of Hide the stiletto,
but possibly Rizzio was murdered around four in
the afternoon, or "tee" time.

Jeff


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