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Stephen P. Ryder
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 3338 Registered: 10-1997
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 1:56 pm: |
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Jack the Ripper: End of a Legend Calum Reuben Knight December 2005 Details coming soon... Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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Dan Norder
Assistant Commissioner Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 1069 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 5:49 pm: |
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Interesting... that one stumps Google on both the title and the author name. I am curious to see what turns up on this one. I know the "Knight" part makes the hairs on the back of my neck stick up. Dan Norder, Editor Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies Profile Email Dissertations Website
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Stephen P. Ryder
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 3339 Registered: 10-1997
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 5:56 pm: |
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From the publisher: I’ve got no time to tell you how I came to be a killer But you should know As time will show That I’m Society’s pillar Jack the Ripper, 1888 Victorian London in the year 1888 – and a homicidal maniac known as Jack the Ripper is stalking the streets. Over one hundred years later the identity of this killer remains unknown. In Jack the Ripper – End of a Legend, Calum Reuben Knight provides an ingenious new interpretation, and solution, to a mystery of enduring fascination. Knight convincingly argues that Jack the Ripper wasn’t one person but three, and that one of the three was a French woman who successfully masqueraded as the final victim – known to posterity as Mary Jane Kelly. In this book Knight reveals the true identity of the three individuals, profiles their respective lives and explores their motives. From terrifying descriptions of bloody murder to a portrayal of the broader historical context, which transports the reader from the bleak streets of London’s Whitechapel to the dark and dangerous rues of Paris, Knight provides the documentary evidence to reveal the most feared killer in the annals of crime. This is Jack the Ripper as you’ve never seen her. Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 478 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 10:02 pm: |
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Oh goody! A Jill the Ripper book. Stephen Knight meets Gloria Steinem in the streets of Whitechapel. And it was a French woman Caroline Maxwell spoke to in the street, no Mary. Cool. I wonder if this 'French woman' is the tailoress that Le Queux puts in Berner Street as an accomplice to the Stride murder. Hmmm... Should be a fun read. Yours truly, Tom Wescott |
George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector Username: Philip
Post Number: 936 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 5:24 am: |
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Note to self : put this book on list to read shortly after Cornwell, Knight and Williams. There are some books which are easy to acquire I have never bought and have no intention of buying because they will teach me nothing new and only serve to attempt to cloud issues. This is one of them. PHILIP Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Eddie Derrico
Detective Sergeant Username: Eddie
Post Number: 148 Registered: 9-2005
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 8:01 am: |
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Hi Philip I agree. I'm a strong supporter of Equal Rights for all but this sounds ridiculous. Yours Truly, Eddie |
Judith A. Stock
Detective Sergeant Username: Needler
Post Number: 66 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 5:43 pm: |
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I must agree with all the above opinions, and especially with that of Dan.......Knight??? Lemme see...does that name inspire confidence?? Not really! And, Eddie.....as to equal rights, while this particular theory may be ludicrous, a woman can be just as eligible as a man for the all of the following descriptions: murderer, thief, sadist, cold, calculating, and bereft of humanity....any other additions are welcome! I THINK that's what you meant, so I don't want to hassle you....I mean simply that a woman is as capable of foul behaviour as is a man. Sex is no determinant of "niceness", and is no guarantee (nor should it be) of "special treatment" in any form. THAT ought to get the conversation going, don't you think? Before anyone jumps on me and begins to beat me about the head and shoulders, I'm gonna say it once......if women want to be treated as equals, we had better get used to the idea of being treated equally in ALL AREAS.......full stop. Sound fair?? Now, go to it, guys........take your best shot! Cheers, happy Christmas, and a great New Year to all! Hope to see everyone in Baltimore in April. Judy http://www.casebook.org/2006 |
Eddie Derrico
Inspector Username: Eddie
Post Number: 152 Registered: 9-2005
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:02 pm: |
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Hi Judith I just watched the crime story about the woman who murdered her husband and cut his head off because he wouldn't fit in the box. Gotta put that lady right up with the best. Yours Truly, Eddie |
Judith A. Stock
Detective Sergeant Username: Needler
Post Number: 67 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 11:28 pm: |
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ABSOLUTELY!!! We can get really creative when confronted with a disposal problem! Cheers!!! Judy |
Eduardo Zinna
Detective Sergeant Username: Eduardo
Post Number: 105 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 4:22 am: |
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Hi there, Was the husband dead when she cut his head off? Because if he was, I've seen worse. Best, Eduardo |
Judith A. Stock
Detective Sergeant Username: Needler
Post Number: 68 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:55 am: |
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EDUARDO!! good to hear from you again! Other than the obvious problem of getting the husband to hold still while she shortened him, dead or alive would render the same result. Except for the mess.....who's gonna clean up that mess??? This is getting weirder and weirder.........I love it! And happy Christmas, Eduardo! Judy |
Eddie Derrico
Inspector Username: Eddie
Post Number: 155 Registered: 9-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 3:02 pm: |
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Hi Eduardo yeah, she killed him first then cut his head off. Here's a better one. Judy Buenoano. She poisoned her husband and a few of her boyfriend's. Then she poisoned her stepson, but he survived. He was very crippled from the poison and he had to wear heavy metal braces on his legs. So then she took him out for a canoe ride and dumped him in the water and he drowned. Her last boyfriend survived poisoning and having his car blown up. Read about her. She was Ruthless. Yours Truly, Eddie |
Judith A. Stock
Detective Sergeant Username: Needler
Post Number: 69 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 4:54 pm: |
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Killing him first makes a lot of sense....not so much oocky stuff to clean up, but Judy sounds a bit dull after the the first one, Eddie! Give me a Lizzie any day. Seems a bit goofy to wish the best of the season after this conversation, but I will anyway; never let it be said I didn't have a warped sense of humour. Cheers, Judy |
Eddie Derrico
Inspector Username: Eddie
Post Number: 156 Registered: 9-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 6:33 pm: |
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Judy Yeah, I know what you mean. The poisoners aren't gruesome like the ones that use the axes and knives. Happy Holiday to you too. Yours Truly, Eddie |
Eduardo Zinna
Detective Sergeant Username: Eduardo
Post Number: 107 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:15 am: |
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Hello Judy, hello Eddie, Good old Rudyard Kipling - whom nobody reads anymore - knew what he was saying when he wrote: The female of the species is more deadly than the male. A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Eduardo |
Stanley D. Reid
Chief Inspector Username: Sreid
Post Number: 700 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 5:57 pm: |
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Hello all, So who killed Chapman and Eddowes? That's JTR. Who really cares about the others when it comes down to the final analysis. The rest are just the netting on the ham. Goodies, Stan |
Thomas C. Wescott
Chief Inspector Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 511 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 9:18 pm: |
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I got my copy today. According to Amazon.com, this book has been out since July and they've got new AND used copies available. If that's true, Knight loses 10 points for poor marketing. However, he makes these points back - and then some - for having scored a Cuban drug connection. There's no way this guy's stuff is cut. From perusing the book it seems a good part of his 'evidence' is an anagram derived from the street names where the bodies were found. Inexplicably, he uses Berner Street (not Dutfield's Yard) but eschews Dorset Street in favor of Millers Court. Incidentally, Marky Kelly is the Ripper, with two guys. I presume them to be Hutchinson and Barnett. But, again, I haven't read the book yet. Just wanted to share these tidbits and let you know the book's for sale at a very cheap price for a Ripper book - under 11 books in U.S. dollars. If nothing else, it should be a fun read. Yours truly, Tom Wescott |
Andrew Spallek
Assistant Commissioner Username: Aspallek
Post Number: 1048 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 12:09 am: |
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Got mine yesterday and at a glance it looks pretty weak. For one thing he reproduces a gravestone on Mary Kelly's grave and represents it as being current. That headstone is no longer there and a completely different one is now in place. Doesn't inspire confidence. Andy S. |
Thomas C. Wescott
Chief Inspector Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 519 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 9:16 pm: |
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I've read about a third of the book, and I believe it's an intentional farce, meant to be a throwback to the 70's. It even has Robert Paul called 'John Paul, Charles Cross called 'George' and Nichols spelled 'Nicholls' like old school Ripperology. And then there's the fiction-style narrative. It really reads like a spoof on Stephen Knight, Frank Spiering, etc. And I truly hope that's what it is. If approached from this viewpoint, it's actually an enjoyable read, as Calum Knight is not a bad writer. But it certainly cannot be taken seriously as a theory. Yours truly, Tom Wescott |