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Christopher T George
Detective Sergeant
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 71
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 12:15 pm: |       |
Hi, all:
For those who don't know it, there is a dissertation here on the Casebook by Stawell Heard on Mr. Valentine's School originally published in Ripperologist. Where else? 
Best regards
Chris George
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Jeffrey Bloomfied
Police Constable
Username: Mayerling
Post Number: 10
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 6:48 pm: | |
Hi all,
I am aware that one car read too much into the
"Six Degrees of Seperation" argument (and with
Knight this was done constantly), but it is something to make one pause and consider occasionally. Here is a good example:
1) December 1891 - Prince George (future George
V of England) nearly dies of typhoid. He is
pulled through by Dr. William Broadbent.
2) December 1891 - Dr. Broadbent receives a
blackmail letter from a detective named "A. O'Brian", claiming he poisoned a prostitute named
Ellen Donworth the previous fall. At this time,
Ellen Donworth's death was considered natural
causes.
3) January 1892 - Dr. Broadbent called back to
Sandringham to try to save the life of the heir
apparent, Prince Albert Victor ("Eddy") Duke of
Clarence, from influenza (officially the reason).
Eddy dies on January 14, 1892.
4) Despite the second failure, Dr. Broadbent becomes one of the physicians of the Prince of
Wales and his mother, and is made a baronet in
February 1892 (the family realized he tried to
save Eddy, but were grateful that he saved George).
5) In June 1892 Dr. Thomas Neill is arrested -
and as Dr. Thomas Neill Cream charged with the
poisoning of four prostitutes (including Donworth), and Dr. Broadbent is one of the witnesses against him at the trial (because the
blackmail letter from Cream/"O'Brian" included
information not known to anyone but the murderer
at the time). Cream is found guilty and hanged.
This is the only time in all these years of my
investigating into the mysteries of the Whitechapel case that I found a link between two
of the so-called suspects (Cream and Eddy).
This is not the only time a weird connections
forms. In November 1864, when returning to
Washington, D.C. to see his family after graduating from Harvard, a young man was jostled
off a railway platform by a crowd and nearly
killed by an approaching locomotive. A middle
aged man in the crowd rescued him. The youth was
Robert Todd Lincoln, and the man who saved the
President's oldest son was a prominent celebrity:
the actor Edwin Booth! Robert Lincoln would
shortly speak out for the character of Edwin Booth
in the aftermath of the assassination.
In the 1890s Daisy, Countess of Warwick ("Darling
Daisy") "sold" some embarrasing letters to Albert
Edward, Prince of Wales. One of the go-betweens
in the negotiations was a young man named Clarence
Hatry, who (in the 1920s) committed one of the
biggest financial frauds in British history.
Another doctor to the Royal Family in the 1890s
and early 1900s was Sir James Reid. Sir James
was badly hurt in a financial fraud, involving
a prominent financier and friend named Whitaker
Wright.
And so it goes. The infamous John Collier Payne,
who shook up Elizabethan scholarship in the mid
19th Century with a series of forgeries (though
this has recently been questioned) had earned money as a young man by his skill as a billiard
player. He got to know a gambler named William
Weare, who would be a the victim in an 1822 murder
case. The perpetrator was John Thurtell, who
was known to the writers George Borrow (THE
ROMANY RYE) and William Hazlitt.
Although his books have questionable research,
Donald McCormick wrote one on the murder of Maria
Martin by William Corder, THE RED BARN MURDER.
In it, if McCormick got his facts right, he found
that Corder (something of an intellectual social
climber) actually was palling around with the
then prominent critic and artist and fop (and
hidden forger and possible poisoner) Thomas
Griffiths Wainewright.
I only wish one day some such connection pops up
between say Deeming and Cream or Chapman or that
Druitt has a connection (a really documented one)
with Sickert or Gull or Ostrog or Kosminsky. It
would be fascinating if it turned up.
I may add, before leaving that Mr. Mark Mann
may have a small or big role to a contact between
Blackheath and Scotland Yard. If Mann's father
was a British General in the Royal Engineers, is
it not possible that somewhere General Mann
may have known that other officer from the
Royal Engineers, Major General Sir Charles Warren?
Could not Warren be one of the contacts that
gave MacNaughten his information about Druitt's
suicide and the possible link to Whitechapel?
Best wishes,
Jeff |
John Ruffels
Police Constable
Username: Johnr
Post Number: 8
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 6:09 am: | |
Thank you for the useful information on MARK MANN
Chris Scott, John Savage and Christopher T George.
(And thanks for the journey Jeffrey Bloomfied(?)).
And I LOVE Mark Andrew Pardoe's one-liners..
Am I correct in assuming MARK('D) MANN was listed at Valentine's school at the time of the 1881
Census? Therefore, he would not necessarily have still been at the school in 1888?
Do we know exactly who else was at Valentine's school in 1888?
Jeffrey raises a good point; do we KNOW just who Montague Druitt's friends were?
After all Macnaghten and others inferred it was MJDs "friends" who suspected him of being JTR - not Montague's relatives.(In other words, it is
suggested MJDs family did not alert the police,
his friends did.HHmmmmm... |
Christopher T George
Detective Sergeant
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 76
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 9:10 am: | |
Hi, Jeff:
Thanks as usual for the interesting information that you posted.
Yes Sir Charles Warren might have known General Mann but it appears from the following that General Mann was considerably older than Warren, and at the time that Warren joined the Royal Engineers in 1857 Mann was a captain serving in China, while Warren was soon to be in Palestine and Africa.
Here then is a rundown of General Mann's army service:
Gother Frederick Mann, CB. Regimental Ranks: 2nd Lieutenant, 18-6-1836; Lieutenant, 31-3-1838; 2nd Captain, 1-4- 1846; Captain, 17-2-1854; Lieutenant Colonel, 20-6-1859; Colonel, 10-11-1868. Army Ranks: Major, 13-4-1858; Colonel, 20-6-1864; Major General, 13-8-1874. War Service: China, 1857-1858 and 1860. Retired on full pay, 13-8-1874. Died at Upper Norwood, 2-3-1881.
See OFFICERS OF THE ROYAL ENGINEERS
Best regards
Chris |
Chris Scott
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 7:33 am: | |
Hi John
Yes, The info on Mark Mann comes from the 1881 census - I have yet to trace Valentine's school in the 1891 census. I know of no press report at the time of the murders that actually listed staff at Eliot Place so I think it unlikely we will ever trace in detail who (apart from Monty) was at the school actually at the time of the murders.
Hope this helps
Chris S |
Gary Weatherhead
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 2:06 pm: | |
HELLO EVERYONE
I added a book to the list of Ripper related books not to long ago entitled Prince Eddy and the Homosexual Underorld by Theo Aronson. The copy I have is dated 1994 and was published by Barnes and Noble. The book has about 5 or 6 pages
on MJD. The book does take seriously the question of a possible connction between Druitt
and Eddy. It is clear that the Author has read The Legacy and refuses to discount the possibliity that Druitt and Eddy were involved in a clandestine group of men at Cambridge who were in a secret group called the Apostles who were outwardly heterosexual types but who in fact were homosexual or bisexual. (Note that credit here should be given to Howell and Skinner)
However, Aronson who researched the information and hopefully re-researched it on his own, agrees that Druitt could certainly have been within this group which began at Trinity School, went through Cambridge together with Druitt and then sought a hidden place to carry on their activities. This would of course have been Cleveland St
Aronson gives particular consideration to the fact that "When the Prince paid a visit to Lord and Lady Wimborne in Dorset that year (1888)Montague Druitt -who lived in London, and not his brother William who lived in nearby Bournemouth- was invited to a ball in his (Prince Eddy's) honor. One can only assume that the Wimborne's knew of the Prince's friendship with Montague Druitt. " (Aronson pg.112)
In my first post on this thread I wasn't questioning the very real possibility that MJD was homosexual. I was conjecturing on why he was
paid off if he was caught in the act. I was thinking of a student as his partner at the time, however as subsequent posts have indicated he could have been involved with a fellow teacher. It was unfair of me to assume he was a pederast as some writers have done.
Best Regards
Gary |
Gary Weatherhead
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 2:18 pm: | |
John Ruffels
Someone beat me to the information as to the publishing details of "The Identity Of Jack The Ripper" I have the exact same information John Savage gave you.
I wonder if anyone can give me Donald McCormick's
real name. I seem to recall it may have been Sutherland.
Best Regards
Gary |
Jeffrey Bloomfied
Sergeant
Username: Mayerling
Post Number: 12
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 10:39 pm: | |
Regarding General Gother Mann, it may be that
at some point he was involved in training officers, and so would have gotten to know
Warren. But unless every incident in his career
was known, it is hard to say. I may add that
the Royal Engineers had many officers in it. In
the 1870s and 1880s one of them was Colonel, later
Major General Charles Luard, who would later
commit suicide in the aftermath of the unsolved
murder of his wife at Sevenoaks in Kent in 1908.
Also, in February 1881, Lt. Percy Roper would be
shot and killed in the barracks of the Royal
Engineers. His killing was never solved either.
Jeff |
John Savage
Police Constable
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 8
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 4:54 am: | |
The idea that Montague Druitt could have been a member of the "Apostles" has was one major flaw.
The Apostles were (and I believe still are) a society for students of Cambridge University; Druit of course went to Oxford. For this reason I believe that trying to link him with this group is more wishful thinking than fact.
Garry Whitehead - The name Donald McCormick was I believe an alias, the same man also wrote under the name of Richard Deacon, but if that was his real name or not, I am not sure.
John Savage |
Gary Weatherhead
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 11:11 am: | |
John
The book on Prince Eddy asscociated Druitt with the Apostles even though he was not a Cambridge student. I don't know whether this group included members from other schools as the book indicates or whether this was a closed circle
for Cambridge students.
Nevertheless I believe there would be logistical problems in attending a school society which was not at ones own school.
Richard Deacon is the name I was looking for.
Best Regards
Gary |
John Savage
Police Constable
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 9
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 2:34 pm: | |
Gary
As I understand it, The Apostles was originally a debating society at Trinity College Cambridge, and members were drawn from Cambridge University only.
This idea about the apostles and Druit first came up in "The Ripper Legacy" by Keith Skinner and Martin Howells (1987). Incidentally they mention a book called "The Cambridge Apostles" by none other than Richard Deacon.
Somewhere I have in a book here at home the mention of Apostles being only at Cambridge, if I can ever find the reference I will post it here
Regards,
John Savage |
Chris Scott
Detective Sergeant
Username: Chris
Post Number: 53
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 6:38 pm: | |
I have finally got sight of the 1891 census for Blackheath and have been able to transcribe the household for 9 Eliots Place at that time. This is as follows:
9 Eliot Place 1891 Census
Head
George Valentine aged 49
Schoolmaster
Born India, Bombay
Marital status Single
William Johnson aged 15
Pupil
Born in Rampsee (?), India
John M Valentine aged 13
Nephew
Born in Lee, Kent
Elizabeth Sims aged 65
Boy's Matron
Born in Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Widowed
Sarah Booker aged 56
Housekeeper/Domestic Servant
Born Clapton, Middlesex
Single
Susan M Godfrey aged 34
Housemaid
Born Fritende (?), Kent
Single
Emma Dains aged 19
Kitchen Maid
Born in Morgaretting
Single
Frederick S Tebbutt aged 18
Footman
Born in Woolwich, Kent
Single
I hope this is of interest
Chris S
Im including the original image so you can make up your own minds about some of the more difficult decipherments!!
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Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
Username: Chris
Post Number: 543
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 8:59 am: | |
Mark James Francis Mann (died 1925)
Mark Mann was listed as the only other teacher at Valentine's school in 1881 along with M J Druitt. Mark Mann came from a distinguished Channel Islands family and was born in St Peters Port, Guernsey.
http://www.hmc.gov.uk/NRA/searches/FEdocs.asp?FER=7940
For more info see
http://www.hmc.gov.uk/NRA/searches/FEdocs.asp?FER=7940
I have found that there are two repositories of Mann family correspondence, both in the Bodleian Library, Oxford.
If anyone wants to follow these up the deatils of these are as follows:
Mann Family Of Guernsey
Archive 1:
1786-1909 Family correspondence
Bodleian Library, Special Collections
Reference: NRA 15599 Dobree
Archive 2:
19th Century Family Correspondence
Bodleian Library, Special Collections
Regerence: MSS Eng Lett b 9, c 292094, d 303-06, e 119
NRA 14156 Mann
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Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
Username: Chris
Post Number: 544
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 9:06 am: | |
The source of the above (and for more info)
http://www.hmc.gov.uk/NRA/searches/FEdocs.asp?FER=7940 |
Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
Username: Chris
Post Number: 721
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 10:51 am: | |
I have been doing some more searches for the family of Mark Mann. Druitt's fellow teacher, as follows:
MJFM's family in 1881 Census
Address: The Cottage, Croydon, Surrey
Head:
Margaret M Mann (widowed) aged 54 born Guernsey, Channel Islands
Children:
Dora B (F) aged 24 born Alderney, Channel Islands
Harold E (M) aged 16 born Pembroke, Wales SCHOLAR
Gother E (M) aged 13 born Pembroke, Wales SCHOLAR
Servants:
Susan Jackson aged 25 born Gloucester DOMESTIC SERVANT
Matilda Ansett Epps aged 35 born Battlesmere, Kent DOMESTIC HOUSEMAID
MJFM's family in 1891 Census
Address:
8 Lavender Road, Woking, Surrey
Head:
George Wickenden aged 39 born Sevenoaks, Kent
Fly proprietor (?)
In this household are listed as lodgers:
Margaret M Mann aged 64 born Guernsey
Widowed
Living on her own means
Dora B Mann aged 34 born Alderney
Single
No Occupation
Agnes de B Mann aged 25 born Pembrokeshire
Single
No occupation
Harold Edward Mann:
Address:
District Eastern Hospitals, Hackney, London
Aged 26 born Haverfordwest, Pembroke
Medical Officer/ Physician and Surgeon
Single
Agnes Mann (listed in 1891 as aged 25) is not included with the household in 1881 census. She is to be found as follows:
Address:
Ladies College, St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Agnes Mary Mann born 1866 in Wales
Aged 15
Scholar
The missing brother, Gother E Mann, I had a little trouble finding in 1891 as the name Gother had been transcribed in the search index as Eather! But his details are below:
Address:
Darley Chapel, Linkinhorne, Cornwall
Lodger:
Gother E Mann aged 23 born Neyland, Pembroke.
Clerk in Holy Orders
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Severn
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 4:46 pm: | |
Chris, Thanks a fascinating find.Another medical man living in Hackney.He would have been 23 in 1888 and quite likely living at the hospital then.
It would be interesting to know more about him,whether he knew Druitt etc.I wonder where this
hospital is in Hackney.I dont suppose he could have been one of the medical students interviewed
by the police in connection with the murders?
Natalie |
Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
Username: Chris
Post Number: 851
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 5:17 pm: | |
I don't think I've posted this here before. I came across a picture of George Valentine's school in Eliot Place and thought it might be of interest to some.
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1036
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 2:17 pm: | |
Hi
In the dissertation on Valentine's school on the Casebook, it mentions that Valentine ought the school froma Thomas Nunns. I have found the property in the 1871 census and, out of interest, am posting a census list below
Chris
1871 Census
9 Elliot Place
Head:
Thomas J Nunns aged 37 born Birmingham
Clergyman of Church of England
Wife:
Anne J aged 29 born Birmingham
Children:
Theodora aged 6 born Blackheath
Bernard J aged 2 born Blackheath
Mabel G aged 6 months born Blackheath
Assistant Masters in School:
William C Crofts aged 25 born Hampstead
B.A. of Oxford
William C Frost aged 26 born Wellington, Somerset
B.A. of Dublin
Henry Martin aged 26 born Southwark
Undergraduate Oxford
William Atkinson aged 24 born Westmoreland
Undergraduate Oxford
Staff:
Margaret Haig aged 26 born London
Matron
Domestic Servants
Edith Milliner aged 18 born Gloucestershire
Amelia Moss aged 21 born Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Heaven aged 23 born Gloucestershire
Mary Gough aged 16 born Gloucestershire
Jane Morgan aged 23 born Maidstone, Kent
Ellen Holmes aged 48 born Gloucestershire
Cook
Lucinda Tubb aged 21 born Wadebridge, Cornwall
Parlourmaid
Servants:
Adeline Coleman aged 25 born Broughton, Northampton
Albert A Roche aged 28 born Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
James C Milliner aged 13 born Alveston, Gloucestershire
Pupils:
Sidney W Fulton aged 12 born at sea
Percival J Fulton aged 11 born Punjab, India
Thomas W Hope aged 13 born Monte Video, Brazil
William H Oliver aged 11 born Roxburgh, Scotland
Charles J Randolph aged 12 born darrington, Yorkshire
James Oliver aged 9 born Roxburgh, Scotland
Patrick C Scott aged 13 born Camberwell, Surrey
Harry K Bough aged 12 born Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire
Thomas S Watson aged 10 born Aberdeen, Scotland
Francis H Horton aged 10 born Kirby. Manchester
Charles J Morison aged 12 born Lancashire
George J Hockin aged 12 born London
John S Newnes aged 10 born Edinburgh
William Newnes aged 13 born Scotland
Robert C H Tomlinson aged 13 born Lee, Kent
Arundel St John Mildmay aged 12 born Torquay, Devon
Henry S Harcon aged 11 born Demerara
Francis H McAlan aged 11 born Yorkshire
Frank Elwersley aged 11 born Wellington, Somerset
Sidney Salter Henricke aged 10 born Kent
Arthur R Ricards aged 13 born Somerset
Harold H Colvill aged 11 born Warwickshire
Spenser Colvill aged 14 born Warwickshire
Edward Colvill aged 12 born Warwickshire
Arthur Lawley aged 10 born London
Walter B Corsica aged 12 born Switzerland
Arthur B Carr aged 14 born London
Charles A Sandell aged 12 born Oxford
A T D Beare aged 11 born London
Edward A Neave aged 13 born London
Herbert H Waithman aged 12 born Lancashire
Ernest Bryman aged 13 born France
Winston J C Hayward aged 13 born Hastings
William E Napier aged 13 born Italy
John S Beadshaw aged 10 born Eccles, Lancashire
Robert S Musket aged 12 born London
Charles E Nason aged 11 born Derbyshire
Frederick W Beadshaw aged 12 born Eccles, Lancashire
Charles Bigge aged 13 born Scotland
Edward Salterthwaite aged 14 born Plaistow
Charles Thomson aged 11 born India
Walter St John Mildmay aged 10 born Warwickshire
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 2202
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 5:29 pm: | |
Chris, re your posting of the 1891 census details above, why was there only one pupil?
Robert |
Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1039
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 5:46 pm: | |
Hi Robert
That puzzled me - the most logical assumption I can come to is that the 1891 census coincided with a late Easter holiday and all the other pupils had gone home. It may be significant that the only pupil listed as on the premises in 1891 was born in India - maybe too far to go home for the holiday
Only a guess but I can't think of any other logical reason
Chris |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 2204
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 6:23 pm: | |
Hi Chris
Yes, that sounds like a good suggestion.
Two things that struck me about the 1871 listing, are that 26 seems a very young age for a matron, also the place seems to have been very posh in 1871 - if Arundel St John Mildmay is anything to go by!
Also it's interesting to see undergraduates teaching there, presumably in their vacation. I wonder whether Monty did the same thing during his university days.
Robert |
Monty
Chief Inspector
Username: Monty
Post Number: 852
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:18 am: | |
Born at Sea !!!!
Robert,
Of Course. Todays lecture will be commencing in the Bar of The Princess Charlotte at around 11am until passing out time !!
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John Ruffels
Inspector
Username: Johnr
Post Number: 191
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 5:39 am: | |
The "Arundal St John Mildmay" and "Walter St John Mildmay", mentioned above by Chris Scott for the 1871 Census of 9 Eliot place Blackheath, might have greater significance for
those interested in the "friends" of Montague Druitt.
A "Dr Walter Wyke-Smith (aged 47) a General Practitioner of West Borough, Wimborne" was listed in the 1891 Census.(Kindly posted earlier, I think, by Chris Scott or Chris Phillips).
According to the local paper account of Montague Druitt's death and funeral, present was "Dr W. Wyke-Smith".
Also, in a Somerset newspaper account of Montague Druitt's brother, Captain Edward Druitt's marriage to Christina Weld, ( the daughter of the squire of Chideock, Dorset) on 19th February, 1889, one of those who sent wedding gifts is listed as "Dr W. Wyke-Smith". Very interesting.
Equally interesting is the fact NO Druitts attended that wedding. Probably because of the terrible fact Captain Edward was marrying outside his church- into one of the most solidly respectable and old CATHOLIC county families in Southern England.
Very little evidence has turned up (certainly not in the West Sussex Archives, where some Druitt family papers are held) to indicate any future contact between Captain Edward Druitt and his own family.
The only mention in the Druitt papers cited above, was a clipping concerning the death in World War One of Edward's son, Everard.
Several of poor Edward's children died in infancy of diabetes.
So thanks for posting the Census details Chris Scott, and thanks for highlighting Arundal's name
Robert Charles Linford. |
John Ruffels
Inspector
Username: Johnr
Post Number: 192
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 7:12 am: | |
Anyone reading the above erudite posting by me will, no doubt, be thoroughly confused.
As was I, after a dreadful week of late nights and little sleep.
Of course, I have drowsily substituted the name "Wyke-Smith" for "Mildmay" !! Sorry folks.
What I really meant to say, is :
GEORGE St JOHN MILDMAY was called to the Bar from London's Inner Temple on 26th January, 1882.
Three years before MONTAGUE JOHN DRUITT graduated from the same Temple.
So it is obvious, given the fact Mildmays attended Valentine's school and Inner Temple, it is likely someone from that family would have crossed paths with MJD.They seemed to travel similar roads.
I don't have access to my list of attendees at Winchester College handy, nor my list of Barristers on the Western Circuit at this time, but I think(!) that the name Mildmay crops up there.
Perhaps one of you Census Wizards can turn up something interesting.
All the facts concerning Wyke-Smith and Edward Druitt are absolutely true, but unfortunately irrelevant to this thread. |
John Ruffels
Inspector
Username: Johnr
Post Number: 193
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 4:52 am: | |
My guess about the Mildmays not only being at Mr Valentine's school (albeit in 1871) but travelling similar roads to Montague Druitt has proved to be correct.
Whilst Montague enrolled at Winchester College in the Common Time Term of 1870, a "WYNDHAM P. St JOHN MILDMAY" enrolled there in the Short Half Term the year before. The "St John" suggests a link to the Valentine School Mildmays.
But, there is an even stronger Mildmay/Druitt link.
If you consult the Kelly's Post Office Directory
for London, under 9 Kings Bench Walk (Montague Druitt's chambers) for 1886, you will find also listed :
"GEORGE St JOHN MILDMAY".
From the Winchester registers and "Foster's Men At The Bar" I have compiled a biography of George Mildmay, parts of which Royal conspiracy theorists might find mouth-watering...
GEORGE SAINT JOHN MILDMAY: Born 24 February, 1856, son of the Reverend Charles Arundall St John Mildmay, rector of Denton, Norfolk and also Marston, Yorkshire. And his mother, Harriet Louisa daughter of the Very Reverend Honorable George Neville - Grenville, ( Dean of Windsor).
Attended Winchester College Short Half 1868, Corpus Christi College, Oxford, 1875 , 3 Classical Moderns 1876, 3 Class ---, 1878, B. A. 1879, Inner Temple 1879 (aged 23). Called to the Bar January, 1882. Midlands Circuit. Lieutenant 24 th Middlesex Royal Volunteers ( Post Office) 1882.
Captain, 1887. Married 3rd August 1898, Grace Mary, eldest daughter of Percival Hambro, Esq., of Milton Abbas, Dorset.
Later addresses: 8 Prince Street, E.C. and 16 Bolton Street, Picadilly.
This is the George St J. M. I spoke of above in the previous posting.
I have not encountered the name Mildmay in conjunction with Druitt's cricketing pals.
It would be interesting to discover if any present day Mildmay relative has any family yarns about a certain lawyer at their ancestor's London chambers who ,rumour had it, was......
It looks like Mildmay can be pencilled in as another possible acquaintance of Montague John Druitt, at least in the years prior to 1888.
My library does not have concurrent London Kellys
directories, so I could not plot the date of Mildmay's departure from chambers. |
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