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Greg Hutton
Sergeant
Username: Greg
Post Number: 38
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 12:43 pm: |       |
Hi all,
I maybe jumping the gun a bit here but have a look at the link below to the FreeB.M.D. site.
I've had a quick look around this site, but not seen any reference to this other than a post from Sara Long about 12 months ago. In it she stated that an entry showing the death of Marie Jeanette Davies was in fact Mary Kelly. However, there is a proper entry for Marie Jeanette Kelly on the same page. Now I know this is possibly a bit extreme but does anyone think the two entries are about the same person?
I have no knowledge on how Deaths were registered in the 1880's, I would assume a certificate would be required but I feel that there may just be a chance that Marie Jeanette Davies and Marie Jeanette Kelly are the same person. Both died in Whitechapel aged 25 at the same time. Coincidence?
I'll be digging around trying to prove myself wrong but if anybody has already looked at this, please let me know.
Regards,
Greg.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?vol=1c&page=211&type=DEATHS&start=1888&sq=4&end=1888&eq=4&jsexec=1&mono=0&action=Find
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1446
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 1:13 pm: | |
Hi Greg
Sorry to disappoint but these two entries definitely refer to the same person. In the registers both have the same reference (Whitechapel Volume 1c Page 211) but the main clue as to what actually happened is the wording of Kelly's name on her death certificate. She is described as "MARIE JEANETTE KELLY otherwise DAVIES." I have certainly seen cases in tracing my own family where a person known by two different names at the time of their death generated two seprate entries in the death register.
Chris |
Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1193
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 4:45 pm: | |
Hi Chris and Greg.Interesting this because I think her husband was said to be named Davies-a very Welsh name and so it may be of some help in finding more out about her.
Natalie |
Debra Arif
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 1:22 pm: | |
Hi Greg
I believe these are both entries for Mary Jane Kelly
I know nowadays if you use ( or have used in the past different surnames), that both surnames must be recorded on an official document, even if you have always used the same surname but it has been spelt differently on a document then again both versions must be recorded.
My husbands naturalization certificate had his surname spelt differently to the spelling he uses now and went through school with, when we got married both spellings were used on the certificate even though they were only different by one letter.
There will only be one certificate but it will be indexed under both names, and this is what is shown on the BMD.
Debra |
Greg Hutton
Sergeant
Username: Greg
Post Number: 39
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2004 - 3:55 pm: | |
Thank you all for the response, I thought it was too obvious to have been overlooked by everyone else hence the post, so you have all saved me the time I would have wasted looking for information.
Who gave the information for the death certificate, anyone know? |
Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1451
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2004 - 4:10 pm: | |
Hi Greg
The death certifictae lists the informant as McDonald, the Coroner.
Under Informant, it says:
"Certificate received from R. McDonald Coroner for Middlesex. Inquest held 12th November 1888."
Chris |
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