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Richard Brian Nunweek
Chief Inspector
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 682
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 2:58 pm: |       |
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your wishes , I also agree that I Doubt if the whitechapel murderer fled to the U.S,
I would be surprised if the culprit had the funds to escape whitechapel.
Regards Richard. |
Andrew Spallek
Inspector
Username: Aspallek
Post Number: 377
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 4:59 pm: | |
Glenn,
You make a good point about witness descriptions. Yet I tend to give more credence when a number of them agree in principal.
Regarding Druitt's cricket escapades, I don't remember the exact details. But I do recall for certain that it was indeed physically possible -- give railway schedules of the period -- for him to have committed the murders in the early hours of the morning and still make it to the match in time. But he would have had to go without sleep and be in frame of mind to play. Perhaps not terribly plausible, but certainly possible.
As to Abberline, while he wouldn't have known what we know today about criminal psychology, he would certainly have known how common or uncommon it was for a slasher to turn poisoner or vice-versa.
Andy S.
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Chris Michetti
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 4:24 pm: | |
Richard,
He wouldn't need funds if he was a sailor on a cattle ship that traveled to and from London... which is precisely what La Bruckman did for a living. He worked on a cattle boat, and hisboats were very possibly docked in London on nights of 5 of the Ripper killings.
Chris |
Joseph Paul Jackson
Police Constable
Username: Paulj
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 9:35 pm: | |
Even though I stated earlier that LaBruckman was an intriguing suspect, why would he or his buddy leave a murder weapon at the scene? I just cant get past that point. That fact, in itself, is not very "saucy Jacky" like.
Paul |
Chris Michetti
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 12:00 am: | |
Joseph,
I must have missed that... I wasn't aware that anything (let alone the murder weapon) was left at the scene of the Carrie Brown murder, save for an ovary!
Chris |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 541
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 11:49 am: | |
Hi Richard
Cant help but agree with you here.. re the money to 'escape' back the good old USA....unless.he was a toff of course,who could have done that out of his loose change!!! ...wish I could!......Good luck with book..details please
all best suzi
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1141
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 12:42 pm: | |
Hi Andy,
"You make a good point about witness descriptions. Yet I tend to give more credence when a number of them agree in principal."
So do I. And many of them do fit Druitt, but then again, they fit a number of male characters. La Bruckman, for example.
I agree on your thoughts regarding Druitt's cricket games. There seem to have been possibilities, in a practical sense. However, as you imply, there are mental factors to consider here as well.
"As to Abberline, while he wouldn't have known what we know today about criminal psychology, he would certainly have known how common or uncommon it was for a slasher to turn poisoner or vice-versa."
No, Andy, I would hardly think so. I believe the knowledge of these matters were quite microscopical at the time. Hardly any police officer would make such a suggestion today.
All the best
Glenn L Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Bullwinkle
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 6:04 pm: | |
1. The Whchpl. Murderer killed six and six only: Tabram, Nichols, Chapman, Stride, Eddowes and Kelly. The reason why the Tabram crime scene differed from the rest is probably because he killed her rather on impulse, and hadn't yet thought a lot about how he'd like to mutilate the women.
2. You've all heard his name, but it isn't mentioned much. He is not listed above.
3. Motivation was complex; however revenge/ triumph are a part of the matter. Hatred of women and paranoia are not.
4. The GSG and LL are genuine, and major clues to the case. No other communication allegedly received from the murderer is.
5. The differences in Berner Street are self-explanatory by the evidence.
Bullwinkle
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Jason Scott Mullins
Detective Sergeant
Username: Crix0r
Post Number: 101
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 10:07 am: | |
Hello Again David -
"2. You've all heard his name, but it isn't mentioned much. He is not listed above."
Interesting response. I thought the whole point of this thread was to stand up and be counted for who you think did it or could have been involved. Directly naming names, not giving veiled clues.
Please stay on topic 
I'm working on a six degrees of separation game to better help me understand how everyone was connected. It will be interesting to see where your man fits.
"4. The GSG and LL are genuine, and major clues to the case. No other communication allegedly received from the murderer is."
What are GSG and LL abbreviations of?
crix0r |
Sarah Long
Chief Inspector
Username: Sarah
Post Number: 679
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 10:14 am: | |
Jason
GSG is Goulston Street Graffito and LL is Lusk Letter, at least that's what I interpreted them as.
He seems to be off again acting as if he know more than everyone else. Maybe he has a time machine hidden away somewhere so perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt. I was actually looking forward to David saying who he thought Jack was as that is indeed the point of the thread but alas it is not to be.
David, please could you do us the honour of at least putting forward your suspect as that is, as Jason says, the whole point of this thread and I also think that we have waited long enough for the name of your so-called suspect.
Sarah |
Kris Law
Inspector
Username: Kris
Post Number: 162
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 10:18 am: | |
crix0r,
I assumed it stood for Goulston Street Graffito and the Lusk Letter, but again its all very vague and annoying. Quite frankly, yes, thats what this thread was about, coming right out and saying it. "Stand UP, and be COUNTED" that means spill the beans.
If someone can't come right out and tell me who they suspect, I find I don't care much. There are lots of suspects and lots of theories, I don't need to waste my time dissecting riddles. I'm not Oedipus. Although I do think my mum is swell.
Kris |
Jason Scott Mullins
Detective Sergeant
Username: Crix0r
Post Number: 103
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 10:40 am: | |
Hehehehe
Kris, with your permission, I'm going to stick your last line in there about Oedipus in my mental quote book.
Sarah, check your hotmail email account.
crix0r |
Kris Law
Inspector
Username: Kris
Post Number: 163
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 10:52 am: | |
Jason,
Permission fully granted.
Kris
It's hard to write a short response and still have to fill up twenty five freaking words. Is this finally enough?
Nope. But this should be. |
Monty
Chief Inspector
Username: Monty
Post Number: 748
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:36 am: | |
Jeez Guys,
They never learn do they George ?
David pulls your strings dont he ?
Can I ask a question ? Are we supposed to name a suspect and give valid reasons or just name any poor sod and 'fit 'em up' ?
Cos the latter leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Monty
PS For fox sake Sarah, check you're hotmail, Jason is doing his nut in !!!! |
Jason Scott Mullins
Detective Sergeant
Username: Crix0r
Post Number: 106
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:55 am: | |
Hahahha Monty.
I would say the former, not the later. Then again, what do I know :P
hehehe fox sake.. I like that. Tis an interesting way to spell it.
crix0r |
Sarah Long
Chief Inspector
Username: Sarah
Post Number: 687
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 12:10 pm: | |
Monty,
Already got it.
I would say we would only a suspect if we have one in mind and with only valid reasons, or reasons we think are valid anyway. I don't think that naming some points, or what ever David did constitutes any of this.
He doesn't annoy me that much anymore, I was just joshing around really!! Hmmm joshing, I like that word.
Sarah |
Kris Law
Inspector
Username: Kris
Post Number: 165
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 12:16 pm: | |
I wasn't joshing, it's rude and insulting.
People don't have to name ANY suspect, but if they don't want to name one they probably shouldn't post anything at all. Its easier. People don't have to post anything at all, and if their only fun is stirring up trouble, then I don't have time for it.
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Monty
Chief Inspector
Username: Monty
Post Number: 753
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 12:45 pm: | |
Sarah,
I know you've already got it Toots,
Just dont give it to me...Ive had a bath today !
Kris,
Chill, relax, I'll get you a pint....but I do see your point,
David,
Stop it you naughty boy and stick to topic !.....dont make me come up there !!!!
Papa Monty
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Chris Michetti
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 4:54 pm: | |
Ah cmon, he doesn't know. If he really knew he'd be dying to blurt it out all over the forums and we all know it He's just having fun and making us more curious as to who he has in mind.
Chris |
CB
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:43 am: | |
Hi all,
One thought on LaBruckman. Scotland Yard was aware of the Brown Murder. They must have known that LaBruckman was involved. Yet they never made any connection with LaBruckman and the WC murders. This is strange. If you believe that LaBruckman was aressted in connection with the WC muders like some have suggested.
ALL THE BEST, CB |
D. Radka
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 9:58 pm: | |
I have forgotten the name of the person who kindly sent me their copy of Patricia Cornwell's book. I would like to know the name of that person, to express my thanks. Thank you.
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