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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 1235
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 5:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

for your edification:

Tanya Ury was born in London in 1951. Since 1993 she has been living in Cologne where part of the family lived before being persecuted and fleeing because of their Jewish origins. In her art Tanya Ury works with her German-Jewish identity, the themes of the Holocaust, rediscovering this historical epoch, racism and the role of women in this historical context of lost humanity.

Tanya Ury lives in Cologne. She recalls that her grandmother and her mother both used 4711 Eau de Cologne. In 1993 she had the number 4711 tattooed onto her thigh. When she later heard that the resistance fighter Milena Jesenska was given the number 4714 at Ravensbrück concentration camp and was consequently nicknamed "4711 - Eau de Cologne", she knew that the number and the tattoo were right for her. Tanya Ury is Jewish.

The video performance "Kölnisch Wasser" ("Eau de Cologne"), which the artist first presented in 1993, documents the execution of this tattoo. During the procedure Tanya Ury and the tattoo artist talk about the history of National Socialism, about Germany and about the city of Cologne. On the second track of the video the artist's voice can be heard. She is singing the song of the Lorelei and various carnival pieces. Two additional monitors show Tanya Ury doing a striptease. The dark-haired artist is wearing a blond wig of long hair and is clad in leather. She also takes a shower. The striptease is filmed by two cameramen who also film each other. A fourth monitor shows the members of the public as they watch the striptease and the tattooing procedure.

In the video recording of the "Golden Showers" performance of 1997, the artist allows herself to be covered in gold leaf in a test of patience that takes hours. Piece by piece the restorer lays the gold leaf onto the naked body until it is finally enveloped as if by a protective cloak. This painstaking process, laying the gold, leaf by leaf onto the skin, has something very soothing about it, like the treating of wounds that may finally be able to heal. In the end only the number 4711 remains exposed. The video is soundless. "Sometimes you have let out a shrill cry", Tany said in an interview with Radio Köln in April 2000, when she was asked about the provocative aspect of her art. Her voice, which in many of her works compels one to listen, is in fact soft and gentle.

Tanya Ury concerns herself with her Jewish history, with her history as a Jewish woman, but also with exclusion and racism towards other minorities. In many of her works sexuality plays an ambivalent role with many nuances of meaning. The artist often contrasts her body with the observer's voyeurism. The observer becomes a voyeur because the artist wants it that way and makes voyeurism part of the performance. Although her striptease in "Eau de Cologne" is live, it nevertheless does not take place directly in front of the public. There is an additional space between Tanya Ury and the public. The camera provides the insight.

In a number of works Tanya Ury combines the themes of Holocaust and pornography. Two photos which emerged in connection with "Golden Showers" are entitled "Blue Danaé". They show the artist's genitals covered with gold leaf. In the photo work "Triptych for a Jewish Princess Second Generation" of 1996 she wears a leather coat of the German air force. The centre photo is accompanied by a short text collage with the artist's own and others' sentences, some of which are very provocative, on the topics of family, Holocaust and fascism. The Sylvia Plath quote: "Every woman adores a Fascist. The boot in the face, the brute“ is one of these sentences. "Eroticism and sensuousness are abused in our society; sex is divorced from love," says Tanya Ury. "People do not meet to make love but to have sex." Her video work "Hotel Chelsea - Cologne" of 1995 circles around this theme in many variations.

Tanya Ury's works are full of allusions and images. A 21-part photo series produced in 2000 is called "Jack the Ladder". The photos are hung in seven rows of three to symbolizing the rungs of a 3.5 metre-high ladder. In the play of light the image fragments show a young Chinese woman in front of a red oriental carpet. The black tights emphasize her nakedness. Broken glass and nails are visible, ladders in the tights are painted with red nail varnish, knives. "Jack the Lad" is a common term in English meaning "a man around town", a cheeky rascal; "ladder" implies both the structure used for climbing and the damage in the tights. And of course, "Jack the Ladder" is also reminiscent of "Jack the Ripper".

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Kris Law
Inspector
Username: Kris

Post Number: 396
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

AP,

That's very interesting . . .

I don't know what the relation is, or whether there is one but in the Rocky Horror Show, and the movie that followed, Tim Curry as Dr. Frank N. Furter sported a tattoo of the number 4711 on his right thigh.

I can only think it must have been some sort of homage? Don't know exactly what Frank would have to do with the Nazi concentration camps though, but . . . there is no such thing as a coincidence.


-K
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Shelley Wiltshire
Detective Sergeant
Username: Shelley

Post Number: 75
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 2:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi,
I too saw the film the Rocky Horror Picture show, maybe the relation of Frank N Furter was that he was bisexual and the Nazi's hated everything that didn't fit into their own tiny world, that was without tolerence. Nazi's hated Jews, Jehovah's witnesses, Gay's, Bi's, non-virgin women, Gypsies, they also used the Catholic church and if the Catholic church refused to co-operate, that church was for the chop. There were countless races, religions as well as to do with the colour of your hair, eyes & skin, and many sectors, as well as resistance groups and other military men/women that the Nazi's percecuted and wanted to wipe out...........Anyway i thought this was a thread for Jack the Stripper, even though i'm a little rusty with crime, wasn't he traced to a car paint stripping factory/garage and the killer traced as the security guard there?
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Bruce V
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The number '4711' which is tattooed on Frank's leg is the name of a European cologne (the original eau de Cologne, in fact) which was popular among gay men in the 1970's. It is still available.

Ref: RockyHorror.org
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Shelley Wiltshire
Detective Sergeant
Username: Shelley

Post Number: 100
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 7:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Bruce,
I used to be a great fan of the Rocky Horror, i even used to do the time warp on a regular basis. I am now into The good guys and the league of gentlemen (both great comedies).
I do like Tim Curry and throughly enjoyed him in a film with Tom Cruise called Legend ( a fantasy film that was quite entertaining).

Regards

Shelley
Criminology Student (Advanced)
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Kris Law
Inspector
Username: Kris

Post Number: 416
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 8:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, I liked Legend too, although it hasn't aged well over the years. Tim's part is still quite good though.

Ciao

-K
Jive Student (Advanced)
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1104
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 9:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Kris and Shelley!
aaaaaaaaaaagh Tim! Tim! Tim!!!!those Horns in Legend still do it for me every time!...forget Tom!!!!!

Kalispera sas

-S Bucholic Student (ADVANCED!)
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Hannahson
Police Constable
Username: Hannahson

Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 9:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My name is Mr Stephen Sloman I am 47 years old and was adopted at the age of 5 my birth mothers name was Hannah Tailford, and I know she was murdered in London in 1964. She was the second or third victim of a serial killer nick named JACK THE STRIPPER.. I would be most grateful if you could send me any information or put me in touch with YOUR researchers so I may find out some more details about my mother to assist me in tracking down my family history as I believe I was not the only child of this unfortunate lady yours aye S. SLOMAN
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert

Post Number: 4154
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Stephen, and welcome to the Boards.

The case is discussed on this site at ../4927/9648.html"#C6C6B5">
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Lindsey Millar
Inspector
Username: Lindsey

Post Number: 309
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 4:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Stephen,

Thank you for your post - I don't quite know how to word this.. but I am so very sorry to hear of your story. If you haven't already run across it, Donald Rumbelow's book, "The Complete Jack the Ripper" has several pages of information on Jack the Stripper. It may not help you with the enquiries you are making, but perhaps worth reading.

I know of one person who might be able to ask Don Rumbelow whether he has any further details that might be useful. I will send an e-mail to ask..

Best of luck in your search,

Lyn
"When a man grows tired of London, he grows tired of life" (or summat like that)
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn

Post Number: 1617
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 5:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There was a brilliant film by Fassbinder called Despair with Dirk Bogart and Jaenne Moreau that dealt with a similar theme.Also Querelle about a sailor/murderer.Both masterpieces of subversion.
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn

Post Number: 1618
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Stephen,
All the best with your research
Natalie
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Jeff Leahy
Sergeant
Username: Jeffl

Post Number: 11
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 6:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Stephen

I have done a little research on the Stripper murders for a television series I'm working on. I'm very interested in talking to you, if you have a little time, I will explain my interest in more detail. My private email address is: jeff.leahy@btinternet.com

Please contact me as soon as possible.

Yours Jeff
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Jeff Leahy
Inspector
Username: Jeffl

Post Number: 218
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi all

Just a quick post to check my user info.

The Television Series I spoke about last year is called 'Psychic Dective' and starts tonight on Living TV at 10.30.

The first programme is about the Trawler 'Gaul' which sank in 1974.

Next weeks episode is about the Stripper Murders.

The story is about Hannah Tailford one of the early victims.

It follows the Story of Stephen Sloman who I contacted via a post on these boards.

many thanks to Stephen Ryder in helping me contact Steven and to Paul Begg who helped with research and was the guest expert on the programme.

It is due to go out next Tuesday at 10.30.

I'm more than happy to discuss any questions about the programme and would be interested in any feed back.

The reading Tony Stockwell gave to Stephen Sloman was one of the most interesting I've ever worked on. largely because he worked totaly blind in the opening reading, which was most remarkable. But largely because Tony said that three other brothers and sisters also existed and had also been adopted.

During my research I was able to confirm this and discover their birth certificates via Hannahs coroners report which had never been published and was completely fresh information.

Also Tony beleived Hannah came from New Castle. A fact which I was also able to confirm and trace her surviving relatives allowing us to re-unite Stephen with his mothers family.

Anyway hope some of you may watch. The information about the murders is all factually correct and should make interesting viewing.

Also many thanks to those of you who help with information. Hope you enjoy. 6th Sept 10.30 Living TV in the UK.

Jeff Leahy.

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