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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 247 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 5:46 pm: |
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AP, you've done it again! Brilliant stuff. I particularly liked the strange wormhole, and the section from "scratch that card" to the end, but the whole thing grabbed me completely. Can't wait for "Imperfect Reflection Thor"! I'm working on a slightly strange poem. It's rather disjointed and disorganized, but it's meant to be - in fact, it isn't as yet disorganized enough. Will post when finished. Robert |
Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 250 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 12:32 pm: |
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Hi AP SAFELY CAGED Heads lolling from side to side, Dribbling mouths gaping wide, Aimless eyes, lost, unseeing, Old gentlemen their trousers peeing, Hugging themselves on hard stool rocking, Empty lives away tick-tocking. Oh mother! Why do you not come To fetch your frightened weeping son, Or tell me what it is I’ve done? Surely you are outside, near? Take me from this place of fear. If I scream, perhaps you’ll hear! But now come the beatings, And the sad meetings Of haters and hated, Baiters and baited. Sharpened sticks between bars thrusting, Kind souls keep the mind from rusting. And yesterday’s bruise Is already old news. Something I find slightly queer : Like outside, don’t know why I’m here. Here’s like the outside – screaming and shouting. Here’s like the outside – cursing and clouting. Here’s like the outside – life but a rambling. Here’s like the outside – graveward scrambling. Some people say the world is round But that’s a lie, for I have found Its jagged edge and pitiless Law : Once falling, fall for evermore. The world is square...Square...SQUARE! Voices in head That cry to be fed! There’s nothing like a solid noun To steady nerves when you are down. In lifeless things there is no frown, Lifeless things won’t let you down. Table, ceiling, walls and chair Papers over cracked despair. Table, ceiling, walls and chair Banishes a world of care, Banishes a bloody Square. That wall’s too short to climb, And far too tall my time. It wasn’t me at bloody Square! Table, ceiling, walls and chair! Why my hair all shot with grey? Only came here yesterday. O devil voices in my brain! Are you real, or born of pain? I call you Nothing, yet you come. So will I go, that you’ll be dumb. Just like outside, this our life – Save at meals we have no knife. Knife...KNIFE...KNIFE!!! Table, ceiling, walls and – Table, ceiling – Table? Let my mouth be aneled With wax and sealed, Years of dumb peace, A half-way release, Turn down the light, And snuggle in night, May all my hours Be unopened flowers, Curl into ball Beyond help or call : Blind worm of grief, Burrow beneath! Something strange is in the air, Eyes begin to fix and stare, Walls are crumbling, room is rocking, Sky is tumbling, doors unlocking, Snapping of chains that dragged the past – I think they’re letting me out at last. Into the light Or eternal night. Robert
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AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 278 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 1:29 pm: |
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Robert absolutely excellent, enjoyed 'safely caged' from start to end... the section beginning with table, ceiling, walls and chair was the best, almost like the mantra someone would use in a place like Broadmoor to make it all go away, and I could see our lunatic chanting this forever. It hadn't yet occured to me to look at Tom Tom once he was caged, so you beat me to that one. I'm afraid I started part Whore last night but left the rough version on the boat when I disembarked in a cloud of fine brandy fumes. Much like Hemingway when he jumped off the train in Paris and watched it disappear towards Moscow with his first version of 'For whom the bell tolls' and its bells were atolling and he knew for whom. At least mine was only a poesie and not an entire book. I shall just have to rewrite it, shame, I felt it the best part yet. |
Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 252 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:15 pm: |
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Thanks, AP. I hope you manage to recall/rewrite your poem OK. It's horrible to forget something important. A friend of mine once did a joke : Isaac Newton sitting under the apple tree. Apple lands on his head. Holds up his finger and says "Ah!" Second apple falls on head. Rubs his head and says, "I'm sure I had an idea a minute ago!" Robert |
Capricorn 714 Unregistered guest
| Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:55 pm: |
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Predator I know you I see you And now, I have to kill you You are my enemy, sworn to be Only one predator walking these streets Out of Fear, or respect I dont't care and It don't matter But people step aside when my shotgun splatters It's this flavor That I savor Of the crack whore Who is my neighbor A former beauty queen who now looks like sh*% Turning trick after trick just to get her fix I got rocks in my pockets I'm strapped with rockets 40 caliber love I'll give you some of If you ever get brave enough to put your grill in my mug |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 279 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 2:50 pm: |
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Imperfect Whore For Reflection And in the mirror spat and born Was an image imperfectly drawn. Thrown down and cast in clay To rise again on Judgement day. And did he stroke that razor edge When in sharp steel he did pledge All of womanhood to despise And to see them all suffer and die? With rip and rant And curse and cant He did stick and lick And finger pick. His way through strange feast Arranged for a special beast. And last morsel was not least Until he swallowed last piece. For when he looked in the mirror He saw not himself. When he looked in the mirror He saw someone else. Mirror talked to him in vision Taught him how to reach decision Taught him how to make incision Taught him how to cause collision. Twixt heaven and earth Life, death and birth. To advance time Was mirror’s rhyme. To push forward space And win that race. To never say never And live forever. In a cutting… Or clip. In a stabbing… Or slit. Oh that slit and that tit Which he could not fit. So he cut it bit by bit By fire he lit To guide his blade In heaven made. And thanked the Lord For sharp sword And perfect reflection Of his own perfection.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 260 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 3:46 pm: |
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Great stuff, AP, dealing with your ideas on the killer's artistic mentality and his religious obsessions. "Thrown down and cast in clay" was a marvellous line, and the ambiguity of "Which he could not fit" was very clever. AP, I constantly find myself admiring your ability to vary the pace of the poem, it's not dee-da dee-da all the time. I hope I can learn a few tricks from you! I've got a humorous one still not finished, but I think that Uncle Charles should perhaps be given a poem. Do you want to do him, or shall I have a go? Robert |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 280 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 4:58 pm: |
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Robert Thank you for the kind words. I think we both should do an Uncle Charles Henry, but you go first as I'd be interested to see what you think about him - from the little we know - and then I'll reply in the guise of the Uncle Charles that I think I know. An interesting experiment. Uncle Charles will reply to uncle Charles. I think it of import to drag formal poetry off its usual rails and let it fly down the track without a driver... it will crash. But I like that. I'm tired of the mirror now, so let's do good old Uncle Charles... you first.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 261 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 6:26 pm: |
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OK, AP, but it'll probably take me two or three days. My poem may lack a driver, but it will probably be the slow train. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was overtaken by the humorous poem. Anyway, I'll have a bash. Robert |
Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 271 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 9:32 am: |
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Hi AP IMPERFECT DETECTION The Catholics block the sun, And make my life unliveable, Their Cardinals ‘twixt me and the One Who alone can forgive unforgivable. Picking hole In my soul, Peeping in At my sin. Prying priests and smirking saints, And Virgin idol the artist paints, With her magical, worshipped womb, Hide the light in the gathering gloom. Curse this feeble female fashion For scum-loving soft-hearted tender compassion, Poisoning the towns and streets, Poisoning the food I eat, Putting pain In my brain, Idolatry and faith profane. But I created the strangest creature, Oozed from his mother but stamped by his teacher, A figure of wax, a sick, lonely fellow With eyes too dark and skin too yellow. Ego te absolvo, my son. Ego absolvo my loaded gun. For I took that tiny figure, Swivelled him round and pulled his trigger. Gave him dominion o’er all the streets, And Tom Tom drumming began to beat. Mary and Ann I hate like no other, For Mary is idol and Ann was her mother – Dark Annie, and Mary Ann Eddowes and Nichols Were scythed by Tom Tom’s blood-drenched sickles. Hail Mary, loved and adored With every night she binged and whored! He shoved her magical womb ‘neath her head – Immaculate contraception in bed, Lest this Mary and Joseph produce Antichrist on world to let loose. And he cut heart of Mother Church, Gave a tug, pulled it out with a lurch, Flung it on the filthy coke And let her ascend to Heaven in smoke. Flail Mary beneath my rod : Papists, behold the Mother of God! Te absolvo, my loaded gun, But when your work was finally done I locked you safely in cabinet, And waved goodbye with fond regret. But Tom Tom beat is still a-drumming, Think I see a figure coming. Tom Tom picking jagged hole, Tom Tom peeping in my soul, Tom, accusing arm upraised, Rips and stabs my brain guilt-crazed. Drumming beat is unabating, And a second gun is waiting. Gun in hand I crawl to kitchen, Tom Tom beat my finger twitching. Now I know, I’m mad as hatter... I won’t hear the shatter. Robert
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AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 281 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 3:59 pm: |
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Robert My apologies. I have been away. 'Imperfect Detection' is astounding, the sort of stuff I was hoping to see once this thread was started, a real launch into the unexplored regions of our Jack, and this is space shuttle stuff. Superb. Loved every word and turn of the coin. Now, how the hell am I supposed to reply to that? I will. So busy at the moment, immersed in ancient tombs and rhymes, did Carter know the whereabouts of Alexandra's tomb or not as he claimed - he used ley lines to find Tutankhamen's - so why not? Give me a day or so and I will respond accordingly. Magic poem, Robert.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 272 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 4:58 pm: |
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Thank you for those comments, AP. No need at all for apologies, and no need to rush your reply - what you're doing now sounds pretty interesting! Two or three years ago, with the aid of a book, I "learned to read the hieroglyphs" - in other words, decipher a few basic inscriptions. And I'm afraid that since then my knowledge of the language has remained at the same rudimentary level - it's not the sort of language one bumps into every day! But it was a fascinating culture, with awesome architecture. Thank you again for your comments. Robert |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 282 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 4:55 pm: |
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A Fearful Drumming Sound In what fearsome fire forged in molten steel And thrown down on god’s spinning wheel Was this sharp bone from some good meal Emblazoned with the Devil’s own seal? With what driven devil’s engine frame Boiled in blood and then drenched in rain Coiled in hate and crippled with blame Did this cripple run until he became lame? He were but cog in round and round Hell for glory and hell bent for bound And in that sharp whisper were no sound And not a single reply could be found. Spluttered and splattered Whore rag tag and tattered Whore red slag and battered. Whore red dead and shattered. ‘ So I drunk rum To forget the scum To forget that papal bless And forget blessed rest. That blasted scum God’s will be done Clap pistol to me head And send Satan to bed. Blasted syphilis does scratch and itch But little Tom Tom will kill the bitch That vex me most sound and sore It caught from pus-ridden whore. Four pence for me Four pence to see How that bitch could stretch And devil’s bucket fetch To catch that rich red water That fell from Catholic daughter. Scum on earth and scum at birth. Bastard priests with holy biscuit wafer They can stick and shove their saviour For I have gun by my side And much more beside. Prancing catholic scum Have me own position undone. Aye, that drumming will begin And marshal in the sin And all will march to its beat And all will feel its heat As rancid pope turn to smoke And out will come this joke. Female form is but bundle of stinking flesh Wrapped in blood and disguised by dress With tits and slits And other nasty bits. Out will come that worm As that fire begin to burn. And I have the hand on the fire Me own fine funeral pyre. I go gladly and not a bit sadly For you are all but the sum Of Catholic scum. So because of the itching I will go to kitchen And there take gun To bring undone Damn and blast The spell I cast. For it were a powerful spell Carried on wind from hell. It carried god’s own flaw To flay the whore And leave her cut and sore. Of one thing there is no doubt It was me who sent him out. I sent him out to try and save All humanity from common grave. I would pick that scab With thrust and jab And twist and turn And boil and burn. I could not resist temptation In search of me own redemption. Only blood could assuage that need To see Catholic bitch bleed. You see I was infected with the seed. I carried that bitch And carried that itch. It were my child bastard bred And on Catholic corn fed. She were me own blood I bleed Bastard Catholic seed. And she did gleefully sap My own blood with the clap. He were but my own sweet child Born of sister when defiled. Devil’s brew and Devil knew What he do. Catholic scum God’s will done In kingdom come.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 276 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 5:53 pm: |
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Well, AP! I think you won that round. A super poem, several steps further down the road than mine, and very, very dark indeed. I can quite see how Uncle Charles would be prone to strange behaviour if he believed all these things. And presumably he'd be caught in a vicious circle of self-justification and guilt (hence the suspicion of being poisoned). Where does Uncle Charles go from here? Shall I do another Uncle Charles, or what? Robert |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 283 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 6:08 pm: |
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Robert Go for another uncle charles. I'm sure you can best me. Thank you for the kind words. My view is incest. Poetically that is. A hatred of faith usually begins with a betrayal of faith. Get to it. |
Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 279 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 6:34 pm: |
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OK, AP. It will be another slow train job, I should think - for one thing, there seem to be more stations than before! Robert |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 284 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 4:14 pm: |
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A Fearful Drumming Sound Begins Thomas! Bring me knife and me blessed gun For thirsty work must in god’s name be done. Now you stab me here on me lower arm And see if you can’t carve strange charm, And then carve same in me leg just for fun To ward off them evil Catholic scum. Stab me here boy, and stab me there Stab me anywhere you see me flesh bare. Might be best if you stab me in chest Then just casually prick over the rest. Now son, god’s will, will be done In bloody Catholic kingdom come. They put papal poison in the water And papal knights rape me daughter. Me own wife they put to the knife So it was to your aunt I went One night down there in Kent. So I’m your brother And your aunt your mother. You bastard itch pass me gun For I’ve a mind to kill you son. As there are many things I’d rather Be than bastard son’s father. Just slice me up with that fine knife And after that you can slice me wife. Now then Tom-Tom you fine young thing It’s out on street game will finally begin. We’ll send you out to silence them bores And hack up a few old whores We’ll give ‘em their holy scripture And virgins blood red in picture. Here boy, drink this white sound And bring me back flesh by pound From whores who be willing To sell for less than shilling That what good god did create That what good god did make And that what good god will take. By god! I have thirst to slake. Go boy, go to the Catholic ridden street And there by god a great havoc wreak. Carve a path through this pack Go my son and be this Jack. Go and carve and cleave And not a morsel leave. For I want all on my table To eat when I am able. And some fine red wine To wash down my design. As I am your true brother So each whore is your mother. For you know now what they have done And how they have kingdom undone. For they have born the flesh of the fruit And doing so have poisoned the root. And we are but worm in bud Born and baptised in blood. Go son, go and sow that blighted seed And make them Catholic whores bleed. Go and grub out that root Go! Stab that shoot… Now leave me boy and kill some whore Leave me boy for me wounds are sore. Ah, but afore you go, just a nick here For I have that urge again I fear. Go on kid of mine, just a quick slice Nice and deep and deep and nice. That blade do make me quiver And the blood shake and shiver. Wash it down with gin To help dilute the sin. And now good bandage strap It will help repel the heavenly clap. So leave me now, you repulsive chap.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 282 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 5:01 pm: |
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Uncle, brother, dad - whatever, Do I have to waste shoe leather Punishing me poor old feet Pounding out that killing beat, Ripping 'neath a twinkling star, Whistling "I'm my own grandpa"? Me family tree, I'd like to hack - I wish that I were Lumber Jack. And why oh why, dear old Boss Must I sleep in filthy doss When I could be home in bed With the servant girl instead? And isn't it an awkward stunt This ripping, when me knife's gone blunt? Fifty-four I killed last week - I don't get time to take a leak. I've carved you up so much, I fear No place remains that's carving-clear. If you want more carving, mate, You're going to have to put on weight! Re the poison, 'twould be safer If you brought own wine and wafer Or a glass of gin and tonic To see you through the sermon chronic (But don't touch ginger beer demonic). But anyway This I'll say : Nietzsche reckons God is dead, But the servant girl isn't - I'm off to bed. Tom |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 285 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 5:35 pm: |
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Now Tom-Tom you might be me boy but you be puppet and not some toy. Strange thing be even stranger thing for it be me who pull your thin string. You must leave that serving wench quite alone for she be me own flesh, blood and bone. It were but simple need to spread some strange seed. Now I be quite drunk and dead in head so with serving wench I'll retire to bed. You get on your feet and out on the street. And sharpen that knife to take some life.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 284 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 6:31 pm: |
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I see your needs are unabated - There's none to whom you're unrelated! Every time you take a sup You string another puppet up. And so (I hope it's not disloyal) I ask, have I connection royal? Would it be bizarre, uncanny, If Queen Victoria was my granny? What did you do on those trips to Balmoral? Speak, sir! Was it aught immoral? I'm going to find it quite a wrench To leave that comely serving wench And go out on cold night to kill, Catching whores and catching chill. Just one thing (and here's the rub) : Serving wench by me's in club! Tom |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 286 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 2:37 pm: |
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Tom-Tom I’ll thank you for your cheek And just remember not to speak Until you have been spoken for By that mother whom I call whore. Related to royalty? And then question me loyalty? You are a scab, young son of mine And it is upon your kidneys I will dine. For I am for me Queen, country and crown And for driving pesky catholics out of town. You are but in club of swells Who all live out individual hells. A club of club-footed freaks Of such club do I speak. Now on your feet and limp away With you I’ll play another day. So have serving wench if you must For I will in old rule trust And not fall in that old trap For serving wench has the clap. So itch away my dear young chap.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 287 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 4:30 pm: |
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Yea, wench hath clap, dear Uncle C. You'll find she caught it straight from me. But just so Uncle gets his due I pass her on from me to you, And though she's just caught plague bubonic I hope she'll prove a healthy tonic. The ripping lark is getting slow, For everywhere I seem to go There's some hospitable PC Insists I have a cup of tea - Which tends to really hold me up (Until at least the fiftieth cup). But now I have a job on hand With Papist connection that you'll understand. I'm speaking of violets and mother's grave, And now I'll your Indulgence crave : Each coin that in the coffer rings A song from Mary Kelly springs, And to the whole wide world she sings. For which, as I'm a music lover, I'm off that tone-deaf bitch to smother. Tom
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AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 287 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 4:49 pm: |
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Scorched earth - Cut bush I fear, Tom, the dogs are baying I fear, my son, the crowd is saying Bring us this chap. Bring us this Jack. Ah my little boy My little wind-up toy. Settle your springs, fold them wings For we must have chat About this Jack. Now, I have few lucid thoughts in me old head And primary thought is to see them catholics dead. I want you to understand, nay I want you to see What horrendous bastards and knaves these Catholics be. They pollute the earth and I think you will find They pollute me privates And pollute me mind. They have as leader god’s representative on earth A papist catholic bastard of course by birth. They infect us like some dreadful disease And sit in parliament if you please. The head of me own department Sits well in catholic compartment And does swallow the holy biscuit And I’d kill the swine if I could risk it. And there above him sits a catholic Lord Ah, but could he swallow Jack’s sword. So you see, young Tom I am invaded And truth cannot be evaded. We must kill the swine And drink red wine Blessed by the lord And blessed by the sword. I know, Tom that you thinking me is perverse But if you follow me you will see the reverse. For every man takes his four pence And to think otherwise is nonsense. They do plunge them slit Of Catholic bitch. They do touch that coil And then recoil… From that contact forged in sin From that contract forged within, Does such infamy begin. For the ice is thin And all fall in. Why Tom, I meself did break that ice And indulge meself in that lovely vice. That universal plunge Into that universal sponge Of vice and sin Skating over ice so thin. Now take this blade and stab me in leg Come on boy don’t make me beg. Stab me boy and make it quick Stab me where blood run thick Just a prick boy, just a prick That’s right boy, stick and nick. For blood is the biscuit of the Lord And with blood He will oil the sword And with blood goes out the whore. Ah, now I have me peace Me blessed release… Go Tom-Tom and beat my drum Until kingdom come.
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Robert Charles Linford
Inspector Username: Robert
Post Number: 289 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 5:40 pm: |
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Dear Uncle C, I think you'll find I have those Catholics in mind. In fact, I thought I'd widen scope And go to Rome to rip the Pope. But next I'd have Archbishop too, And all religious leaders who Bore me stiff with things ethereal Which I find all immaterial. Call me knife squalid, At least it's solid. I'm off to rip Jehovah's Witness apace, Will probably have door slammed in me face.... By the way, AP, the serious one's coming along. If you only wate a wile longer.... Robert |
AP Wolf
Inspector Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 288 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 5:56 pm: |
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Robert I'll wate a wile longer... I've a mind to do a serious one as well. Been enjoying this exchange immensely. |
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