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George Hutchinson
Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 228
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 2:15 pm: | 
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Hi again everyone!
Welcome to the new permanent thread.
Any cat artwork to support my contention that Mr Diddles was Jack the Ripper can now be posted here where it shall remain permanently on Casebook.
The best and weirdest will be culled - with your permission - for a strictly limited edition book which will be sold at the Brighton Conference with all profits going to Casebook.
If you are new to this new angle on the identity of Jack The Ripper, it is now too difficult to explain. Just take my word for it that Elizabeth Prater's cat, Mr Diddles, was Jack The Ripper and overwhelming evidence has been provided by Casebook contributers to prove it.
Suzi, Lyn, Glenn, Jenni, Nats, Diana, Rob C, Rob L, anyone else....
Here we go!
PHILIP (The Katmeister)
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1924
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 2:25 pm: |
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Just tried to post! and the mog police wouldnt let me! grrrrrrrrrr will try again!
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1925
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 2:28 pm: |
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ok and
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1926
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 2:38 pm: |
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Oh god all the others are way too many and way too hard to find will have a go tho
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1927
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 2:49 pm: |
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Hi still struggling here!
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2950
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 2:59 pm: |
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Hahaha... Suzi 
Wow, you are productive. More new stuff.
I love that Kosm... sorry Mogminki.
Splendid! Hihihi....
All the best
Glenn
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1928
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 3:39 pm: |
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Glenn! Mogminski's my fav and Joe too a serious tee shirt there I thinkl! hang on theres more!
xxxxsuzi
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1929
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 3:46 pm: |
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oh god here we go again
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1930
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 3:50 pm: |
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Am knackered here
couldnt resist reposting this tho |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1931
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 3:55 pm: |
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Theres so much more that was lurking will repost Phils too which made me laugh so much
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and tonights sighting in the Sheraz
Suzi
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1933
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 4:18 pm: |
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And have to repost the delightful bagpuss!!! Cheers Phil still laughing!
 theres loads of other old stuff but cant find it!!! Oh well
Suzi xx |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1934
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 4:46 pm: |
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Bit of a shambolic start here but hope you get the idea!!!!
For Glenn!!!!
Suzix
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1935
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 4:56 pm: |
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Right I promise these 'll be the last have found em!!!! 
Thats it if it aint here didnt post it...or probably did but cant find em!!!!
Suzi x |
Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 206
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 5:46 pm: |
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Dear Ms.Hanney...
Its a shame that we don't have a photo of Thomas Catbush for you....Pretty good work so far.. |
Lindsey Millar
Inspector
Username: Lindsey
Post Number: 232
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 5:50 pm: |
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Great, Suz!
Really glad to see that all is not lost!
Just curious.. where's Mog'Onston? Or did I just miss him...
Love,
Lyn'
"When a man grows tired of London, he grows tired of life" (or summat like that)
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Lindsey Millar
Inspector
Username: Lindsey
Post Number: 233
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 5:54 pm: |
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Erm.. sorry, just found him, under the pseudonym of Dr D'Mogston!
Apologies,
Lyn
"When a man grows tired of London, he grows tired of life" (or summat like that)
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1937
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 6:19 pm: |
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Hi Lyn!
What a pain that was have lost loads of em in 'the move' but no doubt they'll bubble to the surface at some point!Grrrr eh?
Anything else you can remember that I cant!!!!
Trouble is you save 'em and then go back to look for 'em and cant remember what you called 'em!!!
Come on chaps!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where were we!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suzi xx
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1938
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 6:22 pm: |
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LYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!He's lurking stage right!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Dunno why!!!
Howard ..Cutbush will be in the in tray!!!!
(After Phil!)
Cheers
Suzi x
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1939
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 6:27 pm: |
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He he! |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1940
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 6:29 pm: |
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the general concensus is.........To bed NOW
Suzi |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 3949
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:33 am: |
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Great fun. Keep it up, folks.
Robert |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2965
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 7:57 am: |
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Suzi, Hutch et. al.
I also think Barnett, Klosowski and Maybrick are wonderful.
It is amazing how much they look like the original portraits, in spite being turned into cats.
I am totally amazed that one can do this transformation and make it work.
Caricature is said to be among the most difficult forms of art,
so I'll take my hat off for anyone who can do this sort of thing.
And one of those that really cracks me up totally, is Ostrog! Hahaha...
I just love that one.
I can't wait for those T-shirts. I believe they would REALLY be succesful on the Ripper walks
and on the Conferences (both in England and the US).
Hutch,
Nice to see your wonderful charming pictures again, man!
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
(Message edited by Glenna on January 23, 2005)
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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George Hutchinson
Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 230
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:06 am: |
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OK, here is the best I can do with some of these photographic images.
Suzi - I have taken your Mogminski shot and smartened it up a bit.
Here's the 2 (but I must say scanning them would be SO much easier!!!)
 
PHILIP
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Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1941
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:07 am: |
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Right!!!! Thanks Glenn!! This is a serious on going thought at the mo and really want to try to make this work am on the case.Thought you may like to see the latest book off of the presses!!! He he!! Suzi x
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1942
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:09 am: |
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Thanks for that Philip!
I LOVE that one I must say!!!!!! hey MUST do yours!!!!!
Suzi x
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George Hutchinson
Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 231
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:17 am: |
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Here's another good one. It would be a good contender for a front cover, but it's not CUTE enough!
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1943
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:23 am: |
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he heeeeeeeeee.Well???
Suzi |
George Hutchinson
Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 232
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:24 am: |
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This is my favourite by miles. Suzi, is there any chance of getting a better photo of this one? The images where you have a bit of shadow on them are the ones that are difficult to clean up (though if the shadow is total that's not too bad).
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1944
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:25 am: |
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He he will cute it up!!!!!
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2968
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:27 am: |
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If I might deliver some (hopefully) professional opinion about this...
I know that it is no point in doing so for this site, since the technical circumstances here are limited
(handling only jpeg pictures of a certain size etc.), but if you are going to create original files suitable for printing
on paper or other media (like clothes),
the best thing to do is to rescan them as large-size high resolution pics in TIFF format (not jpeg)...
or even better (regarding the line drawings) in EPS format (since this don't use pixels and you therefore don't get tagged images).
Trying to blow up already scanned and small-size jpeg pictures is useless for printing,
since it makes the pictures tagged (as can be seen on the Kosminski picture) and in some cases even blurry.
I might come out as a besserwisser and real bugger here, and you might know this already, but a pointer just the same.
Printing needs totally different requirements from publishing on the web.
Now, that is for the line drawings.
For grayscales, they have to be rescanned as high resolution and large sized TIFF pics.
Jpeg is only meant to be used on the web.
In this way you will get the best results.
You can't display those here, of course (too heavy), but if you are going to print them...
So it takes rescanning of the originals in a larger size and resolution and converting to EPS (if possible, to avoid all tagged distortion).)
or TIFF format (regarding the gray scales)
Suzi,
Incredibly funny cover.
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
(Message edited by Glenna on January 23, 2005)
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1945
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:36 am: |
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Well? |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2969
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:38 am: |
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Suzi...
The "tour guide" on the blue background... hehe... is that Philip?
About time he got his share...
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1946
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:58 am: |
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Ok lets try again!
Suzi
I dont pretend to understand all the technical stuff here but think the sketches would be better done by photo silk screen directly!
Suzi x
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1947
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:05 am: |
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Yep!!!! C/o Profile pic!!!
Dont know why we're getting blue backgrounds here some sory of censorship I reckon!!
Suzi
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2972
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:11 am: |
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Hi Suzi,
"I dont pretend to understand all the technical stuff here but think the sketches would be better done by photo silk screen directly!"
Quite possible (am a bit dusty on that). But you don't have to do that sort of thing today. By creating a scanned computer file of the pic, you can get a completely different kind of freedom in manipulating the result.
You certainly can't use jpeg pics as originals for print, at least. They are only meant for the web.
Aha, I though that blue background was intentional.
Kinda neat, though...
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1948
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:18 am: |
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RIGHT!
The plan for the t shirts is to get em up to size by photocopy..re draw and have them put onto t shirts by photo silk screen!..No computers involved!!!
hey this is a serious goer chaps if we get it right!
Suzi
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2973
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:33 am: |
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Hi Suzi,
"The plan for the t shirts is to get em up to size by photocopy..re draw and have them put onto t shirts by photo silk screen!..No computers involved!!! "
Ah. Ok, that might work for the T-shirts. I was just thinking, since you earlier discussed a book... and if that's the case you have to rescan them anyway.
Yep, I certainly think those drawings will be a hit!
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1949
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:36 am: |
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he he Thanks Glenn
Am having a mild crisis here cos my msn messengers died and I dont know why!!!! Will get em scanned in at work if (and I hope it does ) a book happens before Oct!!!!!! Come in Philip!
Suzi x |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1950
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 12:45 pm: |
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PHIL
Love your Cateriture!!!!!!!!!!
Suzix |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2978
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 1:31 pm: |
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Can I -- as a Swede -- ask just one question?
What exactly is a "mog"?
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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George Hutchinson
Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 236
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 1:46 pm: |
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Hi folks.
I am feeling quite ill today so not really up to posting much - there is so much to do so I will have to do it tomorrow (my hay fever / dust allergy is playing up). Plenty to say and things (and thanks to Suzi). If I feel better later I will try to work it all out, but lieing flat on my back is the only thing that keeps my sinuses clear.
Glenn - a 'mog' is short for 'moggy', which is an English affectionate slang term for a cat. A moggy is usually referring to the sort of cat that will be cuddly and friendly but not a pedigree - I think it might derive from 'mongrel' for cross-breeds (though mongrel is used for dogs, moggy is only used for cats).
PHILIP
(Message edited by philip on January 23, 2005)
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2980
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 3:01 pm: |
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Hi Hutch.
Thanks for that -- funny word; i thought it may have been something in that direction. Well, I am learning something new every day here.
Sorry indeed to hear about your problems. Allergy is a crappy thing (doesen't there exist medication for this?). I sincerely hope you're feeling better soon, mate, and that you'll be up and running in no time. Take good care of yourself.
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1951
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 3:17 pm: |
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PHIL!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope you can read when horizontal!!!!! Hey hope you feel better baby..
OK lets put our mind to the t shirts and the book eh? feel a few new ones coming on did you like the you cat then?
Suzi
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Richard Brian Nunweek
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 1292
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 3:33 pm: |
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Hi,
I do not wish to spoil any ones party here, but [ my age proberly is to blame] I find the whole conceipt of Diddles T shirts, and a book of silly captions a absolute farce.
The convention although meant to be enjoyable, is also a serious event to Ripperology.
For your information Poor Diddles was simply a cat belonging To Mrs Prater, who lived over Kellys room.
And in my humble opinion to make this whole issue a joke in such a massive fashion is giving our site a massive negative to those who follow these boards.
I shall proberly get shot to pieces over my opinion, but I am a person who speaks my mind , even if a lot of people will consider me a old fuddy duddy.
Regards Richard. |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2983
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:03 pm: |
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Hi Richard,
I can't blame you for having those feelings, actually. The same thoughts have crossed my mind as well.
But then again, how much fun is one allowed to have in a context like this. Isn't the subject serious enough as it is? I mean there is a reason for why many police officers have a very crass and very morbid sense of humour, that would make most of us blush and shake our heads (I know several), not to mention the humour of those who work on a morgue. And can you really blame them?
Call it a way to handle or keep some distance to the gruesome facts, in order to be able to face it every day. I believe that if humour (no matter how gruesome) didn't exist on this site, I couldn't stand being here. No way. Sometimes these things are necessary to treat as a joke in order to keep a friendly atmosphere and to make the violent context bearable for the human mind. That does not mean that one doesen't feel for the victims -- and I am myself a cat lover (everyone who hurts a cat goes to the top of my death list).
Then, of course, there is a question of where to draw the limit. I personally have no problem in laughing at the lovely silliness displayed above and enjoy it. Does this mean that it's also a suitable element in connection with the Ripper walks or the Convention? I have no idea. I'm afraid I can't answer that.
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Richard Brian Nunweek
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 1294
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:18 pm: |
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Hi Glenn,
Thanks for that response, at least the first shell has not been loaded in the breech, my point is only that to involve a cat in sillyness, and i do appreciate its only that, can be looked upon as a sort of insult to the amount of research and dedication achieved by many past authors and keen enthusiasts such as ourselves over the years.
my main objective is to disfigure actual people , and replace them [ actual past human souls] as a cat.
I Appreciate humour like anyone, but to take the mickey out of actual people is to my mind low.
Also to disfigure a certain book face, written by a man that earns my respect, i consider disrespectful, and unless the gentleman concerned has a great sense of humour, he may well see it as a insult to the amount of work he put into the publication.
Richard. |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 2984
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:30 pm: |
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Hi Richard,
Well, as I said, if it's suitable or not in the context of this site, a Convention or other stuff I can't say -- I leave that up to others.
But besides that I really think, in my personal opinion, that you're over-reacting. One must be able to lighten up in order to deal with the stuff regarding this case. It is only a healthy reaction.
I was converted into a cat myself and I found that really amusing. I really can't see the insults in those things displayed above; that goes beyond me. Just my point of view.
All the best
G. Andersson, author
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 3955
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:34 pm: |
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Hi Richard
I too understand your feelings. However, as Glenn has said, a spot of humour helps to lighten the atmosphere. Moreover, the drawings are on one specific thread, so no one is forced to look at them if they don't want to. And they are but a small part of the site - most of what's posted concerns either research or discussion. I believe it was Stephen himself who gave permission for these drawings to be placed on an archived thread, rather than a pub thread.
If the intention was to make money out of these drawings, while using the Casebook as a springboard, then it would have been a bit tacky ; but all profits go to the Casebook.
I think on a site as big as this there will be things that not everyone likes or is interested in, but that's unavoidable.
Robert |
Richard Brian Nunweek
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 1295
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:43 pm: |
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Hi Glenn,
I Have no objection to amusement, infact i find lots of things amusing on this site,[ i am sure [in my case a 17stone cat would look hilarious]
My point was simply to disface a spitalfields picture of similar date, and place a actual human being as a cat, when that person proberly had to endure a wretched life, is just time wasting and insulting.
I appreciate there are two sections to these boards the attempted serious side, and the pub/semi serious side, but my objection is any body tuning into these boards who are fundamently intrested in the case of Jack' find themselves seeing pictures of a cat, and disfigurements of Book covers, surely this is against all the principals of a true crime site,
Regards Richard. |
Richard Brian Nunweek
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 1296
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:55 pm: |
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Hi.
Dont get me wrong guys, i realized that all profits go to the casebook, and i could never argue with that, it simply was that amount of sillyness [ only that] that made me aware that we were making a mockery out of a very serious subject.
All this attitude that is simply a way of lightening the horrific nature of these crimes, does not ring true with me,we are all extremely aware that these murders were gruesome, that is and the fact that they occured in the victorian age Gas lamps, to tell the truth we are all obsessed with these murders, and the gory bits, and the majority of us , if not all are of age to grasp the subject without having nightmares.
Richard. |
