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Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
Username: Chris
Post Number: 912
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 1:58 pm: | 
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Pall Mall Gazette (London)
4 September 1888
MURDEROUS RUFFIANISM IN WHITECHAPEL
Another desperate assault, which stopped only just short of murder, was committed upon a woman in Whitechapel on Saturday night (i.e. 1 September). The victim was leaving the Foresters' Music hall, Cambridge Heath road, where she had been spending the evening with a sea captain, when she was accosted by a well dressed man, who requested her to walk a short distance with him, as he wanted to meet a friend. They had reached a point near to the scene of the murder of the woman Nicholls, when the man violently seized her by the throat and dragged her down a court. He was immediately joined by a gang of women and bullies, who stripped the unfortunate woman of necklace, earrings, and brooch. Her purse was also taken, and she was brutally assaulted. Upon her attempting to shout for aid one of the gang laid a large knife across her throat, remarking, "We will serve you as we did the others." She was, however, eventually released. The police have been informed, and are prosecuting inquiries into the matter, it being regarded as a probable clue to the previous tragedies.
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Michael Raney
Detective Sergeant
Username: Mikey559
Post Number: 114
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:02 pm: |
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Chris,
As usual, great post. "We will serve you as we did the others." Interesting quote. Do you think it was made to instill fear rather than as an admission of guilt in the other crimes? I cannot fathom that the Ripper crimes could have been committed by a large gang. Anyone else have a comment?
Mikey |
Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
Username: Chris
Post Number: 913
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:33 pm: |
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Here is the original article as requested:
Hope this is of interest and any comments welcome as always :-)
Chris |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 2129
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 3:04 pm: |
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Hi Chris
It's weird. If the victim told the police, then (assuming she was a prostitute) it doesn't look like the work of one of the gangs preying on prostitutes. In fact, the whole thing's the wrong way round - one would have expected the woman to have enticed the well-dressed man into an area where he could be robbed by the gang.
Robert |
Alex Chisholm
Detective Sergeant
Username: Alex
Post Number: 75
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 7:34 pm: |
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The Daily Telegraph, 4 Sept. 1888 page 2 carried the same report, attributing it to Central News.
On 7 Sept., the Telegraph (page 2) reported:
Referring to the report of a serious assault committed last Saturday night on a woman who had just left the Forester's Palace of Varieties, the general manager of that place of entertainment writes that the police have informed him that no such outrage has been brought to their notice.
Best Wishes
alex
I should have mentioned that the reported police denial doesn’t appear in the Pall Mall Gazette, up to and including 8 Sept.
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Joseph Paul Jackson
Police Constable
Username: Paulj
Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 9:09 pm: |
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I wonder if it could have been the same gang that ruffed up Emma Smith....it seems that there are some similarities. Just a thought. I think thats 25 words.
Paul |
Nina Thomas
Detective Sergeant
Username: Nina
Post Number: 58
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 10:58 pm: |
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The following article is from the Eastern Argus & Borough of Hackney Times, September 8, 1888
Another Cowardly Assault.
Several evening contemporaries published on Tuesday a sensational account of a woman, who on leaving the Foresters Music Hall on the previous Saturday night, was accosted by a "well-dressed man" who eventually took her within a few yards of the spot in Buck's Row, where the brutal murder took place last Friday, and there robbed and assaulted her with the aid of a gang who came out of a court. This veracious account also stated that this gang threatened to "serve her the same as they did the other" if she was not quiet and wound up by saying this would be a good clue for the police to work up the murder with. There appears now to be no foundation for this "news". It originated, no doubt, from the fact that on Sunday, John Hummerstone, a labourer, living at 11, Key Street, which is in the vicinity of Buck's Row, savagely assaulted a woman named Smith with whom he had been living. He knocked her about in a brutal manner and then struck her with a knife. He was charged at Worship Street Police Court on Monday and remanded. On Tuesday he was again brought up at this court, and then a woman named Jess, living at 13, Key Street, gave evidence that she witnessed the assault, but she was afraid before of giving evidence.
The prisoner was then sentenced to six months imprisonment with hard labour.
Nina
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 3091
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 2:25 pm: |
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Hi Nina
A pattern seems to have developed during the course of the murders - individuals and groups who weren't associated with the murders nevertheless used the killings to frighten women/partners/wives. There seems to have been a lot of misogyny around.
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Nina Thomas
Detective Sergeant
Username: Nina
Post Number: 66
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 12:26 am: |
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Hi Robert,
I agree, and the press was certainly a contributing factor to all that madness.
Nina |
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