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BAPearce
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 3:23 am: |       |
I think Elizabeth Long may have seen the face of the man she saw but for obvious reasons did not want to say thisas how could she have know he was "dark"if she only saw his hands |
Elderan
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 7:11 am: | |
but how can you tell that she saw the face? yes she said he look like a foregnier but there is not other info that confirms your suggestion |
Andrew Spallek
Inspector
Username: Aspallek
Post Number: 187
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 1:10 pm: | |
I think there is a small possibility that JtR confused "Long Liz" Stride with "Elizabeth Long" ("Liz Long?"). There is also a similarity in their addresses. I have always suspected that Mrs. Long saw more than she admitted to.
This scenario would tie up some loose ends: JtR is out to mutilate one victim on the night of the double event. But he stops off first, knife in hand, to take care of a errand -- eliminating a witness. As this murder is for a different, more calculated reason, there is no need for mutilation. This theory eliminates the need for "interruption" in the Stride killing. It also explains why he would risk killing a victim with so many potential witnesses nearby. However, it is pretty far-fetched.
Andy
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Belinda Pearce
Police Constable
Username: Belinda
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 8:14 am: | |
In her inquest testimony she states that she did not and could not recoginizine him again but he was dark complexioned alsothat he was a man over forty I cannot believe she could know all this without seeing his face you can only tell so much from a persons hands yet she does not mention seeing those.I think she was naturally terrified he would come after her maybe he even saw her look at him which could be why she was so adamant to state she did not see his face.Thats very interesting-Liz Long Long Liz-more to think about |
Sarah Long
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, October 17, 2003 - 9:56 am: | |
Interesting idea but how would JTR have known Elizabeth Long's name? The only way he could have known is if he knew her and so how could he have killed the wrong person by mistake? Also how could he have known Stride's nickname of "Long Liz"? |
Andrew Spallek
Inspector
Username: Aspallek
Post Number: 193
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:04 pm: | |
Sarah,
Elizabeth Long's name appeared in at least one newspaper account of the inquest.
"Long Liz" was probably how Stride was commonly known on the streets. The murderer could have found this out by asking around or by hearing someone address her.
It's quite a stretch indeed, but an interesting possibility.
Andy
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Sarah Long
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 11:29 am: | |
Andrew,
Why would JTR have gone around asking for "Long Liz" in the first place if he was looking for Elizabeth Long? It doesn't make sense anyway. He surely would have said Liz Long if he was going to abbreviate it. Anyway, the idea that any of this happened is a bit far fetched for me.
Regards,
Sarah |
CB
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 12:50 pm: | |
Hi all,
I think people are starting to get sidetracked. The important thing about her testimony is the fact she claims the man was over 40 if she did indeed see the ripper and was more then she claimed then the age of the ripper would be much older then most commentators speculate.
Your friend,CB |
