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Roger C. Baynton
Police Constable
Username: Rog
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 6:13 am: | 
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Does anyone know if there is a problem with Ripperana ?
I'm a subscriber & have nor received the April issue
E Mails to both;
nwarren@ripperanna.fsnet.co.uk
and
ripperana@btinternet.com
are bouncing back
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Stephen P. Ryder
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3089
Registered: 10-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 7:54 am: |
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Hi Roger -
I just received my copy yesterday, so there's still hope for you yet. 
Interesting article in this issue, written by none other than serial-killer Dennis Nilsen.
- Stephen
Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor
Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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Monty
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Monty
Post Number: 1105
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 11:04 am: |
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Guys,
Is Nilsen allowed to do that ?
I do hope its not for profit !
Monty
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Stephen P. Ryder
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3090
Registered: 10-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 11:09 am: |
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Nick included an editorial in which he stated:
"This issue contains the first part of an essay by Dennis Andrew Nilsen, a serial killer currently detained in one of Her Marjesty's Prisons. The second part will follow in the next issue. I make no apologies for this. He has supplied Ripperana with his views entirely free of charge. Only recently, UK police have picked up on the fact that the best way to understand serial killers is to listen to them."
Nick also comments that Dennis's favorite Ripper book is, in fact, Phil Sugden's... ;-)
Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor
Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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Monty
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Monty
Post Number: 1106
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 11:22 am: |
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Stephen,
Sugdens ? really ?
Id have thought he was a Tumblety man myself !
I do like Nicks last line of his editorial. Nice touch. To a degree I feel he has a point.
Wonder if Sutcliffe has an interest?
Monty
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Chris Phillips
Inspector
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 306
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 2:46 pm: |
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Funnily enough, Nilsen is currently appealing against the confiscation by David Blunkett of the manuscript of his autobiography:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3687889.stm
Chris Phillips
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R.Edmondson
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 2:18 pm: |
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Re my last 'posting': I have just received an email from Nick Warren, telling me that he's had problems with the printers, and that the Ripperanas for July will be posted soon.... |
R.Edmondson
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 1:34 pm: |
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Does anyone know if there is a problem with Ripperana? I have not received the July issue, and 2 emails to Nick Warren have gone unanswered. |
Roger C. Baynton
Police Constable
Username: Rog
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 10:22 am: |
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Well, I can only repeat my 1st post in this thread. I have still had no response, no mag, and a wasted subscription as far as I am concerned |
Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 189
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 9:13 pm: |
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Roger,
You'd probably feel the same about your subscription had you received the issue. I got mine, and I don't even subscribe (no joke). I can gaurantee you that you will NOT receive that kind of treatment from Ripper Notes or Ripperologist. I've subscribed to both for years. Not only will you get the mags you paid for, they'll be worth the money. Go check them out at www.rippernotes.com and www.ripperologist.info.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott |
Roger C. Baynton
Police Constable
Username: Rog
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 2:36 pm: |
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Thanks Tom
I subscribe to Ripperologist and am delighted with it !
Will check out Rippernotes NOW from the link you have given.
Thanks again
Roger |
Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 194
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 9:00 pm: |
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Roger,
Glad to see you're a Rip reader and soon to be RN reader. I hope the double flip-off above wasn't intended for me.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott |
Roger C. Baynton
Police Constable
Username: Rog
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 1:53 pm: |
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No Tom, doing it quickly I thought it was a double 'thumbs up" !!! - must change my glasses - sorry - Roger |
Christopher T George
Chief Inspector
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 945
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 2:38 pm: |
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Hi Roger and Tom
A classic faux pas. Thanks for the laugh.
Chris
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
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SirRobertAnderson
Detective Sergeant
Username: Sirrobert
Post Number: 85
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 8:12 pm: |
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"Does anyone know if there is a problem with Ripperana ?
I'm a subscriber & have nor received the April issue
E Mails to both;
nwarren@ripperanna.fsnet.co.uk
and
ripperana@btinternet.com
are bouncing back "
What are current email addresses for Ripperana?
Sir Robert
"I only thought I knew"
SirRobertAnderson@gmail.com
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Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 284
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 9:20 pm: |
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If you want to get Nick Warren's attention, publish a Ripper magazine, then I guarantee he'll obsess over you. Short of that, all I've heard is he's either not returning e-mails or they're bouncing.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott |
SirRobertAnderson
Detective Sergeant
Username: Sirrobert
Post Number: 88
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 9:56 am: |
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Thank you, Tom. Having now poked around a few Ripperana related threads, it looks like it is not the periodical it once was. Too bad.
Sir Robert
"I only thought I knew"
SirRobertAnderson@gmail.com
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Max
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 10:46 pm: |
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Try 'nwarren@ripperana.fsnet.co.uk.' You appear to have added an extra 'n' which is probably why it bounced back. |
George Hutchinson
Sergeant
Username: Philip
Post Number: 27
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 11:12 am: |
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Just an aside on the Ripper articles by Dennis Nilsen. I have been penpals with Nilsen for nearly 6 years and it was I that set up the contact between Nick and Des for the article - though I heard no more about it once I'd done so until I saw it in print.
It is a grey area if he is 'allowed' to do it. It all depends what the Home Office regard as 'publication'. I would imagine being a subscriber only job, it would be exempt? But then, of course, you can buy it off the shelf in some crime bookstores. It shows the lack of consistancy that is Nilsen's bugbear.
No - he makes no money from it and nor does he want to. Nilsen is now, 22 years down the line, fully aware of what he did, never expects to be released and isn't bothered. He accepts a life sentance as right and just - as do I.
Des's theories on JTR are very interesting and unusual but I don't put a great deal of store by them; he seems to have placed a lot of his own interests on the interpretation!
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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marshall sambrooks
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 12:44 pm: |
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hi ihave had no problems with any of my issues.
i just dont know when to pay my next subscription} |
Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 441
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:34 pm: |
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Here's a problem:
My car broke down on the way home from work today. The gas pedal literally broke in two. I arrived home (via taxi) in need of a good pick me up. What do I find in my mailbox? The new Ripperana. Definitely NOT what the doctor ordered. Fortunately, the new issue of Fangoria was in there as well. But I digress. I’ve been asked why I don’t do reviews of Ripperana. The simple fact is – it’s not worth it. Once upon a time Ripperana was great. Those days are long gone. It’s crap now. It’s not even really a Ripper mag, and the longest article in this latest issue is about the JFK assassination. What spurred me to write this post is a couple of reviews that got on my nerves and an obituary that down-right pissed me off. Let’s first look at how editor Nick Warren reviews his competition, starting with Ripper Notes (all typos in the following excerpts are Warren’s own):
Ripper Notes No. 23 July 2005
Two editors here per 107 pages. And the editor, Dan Norder, is someone I’m really warming to. On pp. 104-5 he takes Paul Begg to task for the May issue of Ripperologist “slipping back down again.” He even points out that the issue contained “two and a half pages of strategically edited message board posts in lieu of actual letters to the editor” before the practice was openly admitted in July (see below).
This issue contains articles on M.J. Druitt, George Hutchinson, Joseph Barnett, Drs. Tumblety and Cream, Claude Reignier Conder and Thomas Jones.
You’ll notice that Warren is “warming up” to Dan Norder for one reason only – that he (as Warren perceives) is taking Paul Begg to task for something. He doesn’t offer a bit of insight into the actual content of this issue of RN, he just goes off about the letters section in Ripperologist. This is old news, and who cares, anyway? What about the magazine itself? Now, onto his review of Ripperologist:
Ripperologist No. 60, July 2005
“The No. 1 Publication” currently has the highest ratio of editors (6) to pages (48) of any publication! The current issue contains four articles on Dracula, and one each on Tumblety in London, a Stockton-on-Tees Ripper and a solution to “Lewis Carroll’s Hidden Confession”, unfortunately written in 1867, a full 21 years before the murders. The “Letters and Comments” section now runs to four pages. There were two major changes in July. Firstly, they are transcribing comments originally posted to the Internet’s Casebook and JTR Forums. As one of the editors has aptly commented: “To be sure, we still prefer letters and e-mails, but if they are not coming, we’ll pluck comments from wherever they appear. Some posters seem a bit fazed when they see their messages in our pages. But, if they didn’t want their messages to be read, they wouldn’t have posted them in a public forum to begin with would they?” Hmm… Secondly, there is no “anonymous” letter knocking Ripperana. Was Phil Space on holiday in July?
Again, he gives no insight to his readers as to the actual value of the magazine’s content; instead he just raves about the damn letters section. Many, including myself, question whether he actually reads the stuff he’s reviewing. He considers how Rip gets their feedback to be a “major change”. The other “major change”? No mention of Ripperana! The real kicker is his review of Paul Feldman. This is what pissed me off:
OBITUARY
Paul H. “Feldy” Feldman (1953-2005)
Paul H. Feldman was an enigmatic, but most energetic, character. I never knew what his second initial “H” ever stood for. He first contacted me, as a motor-mouthed telephonist, in early 1993. Paul Begg admitted that he might have given him my ex-directory telephone number, after he became embroiled in Robert Smith’s infamous ”confidentiality agreement” about the alleged Maybrick Diary. Even then, Feldman, an “alpha” male who chain-smoked cigars and swigged Scotch, was heading for a certain heart attack. Stewart Evans told me that his original company, MIA, was a producer of pornographic videos, and that his obsession with JTR had led to financial separation from the company. You couldn’t help liking “Feldy”!
Non one seems to know the exact circumstances of Paul Feldman’s death. He was alive in March 2005, and had died from a heart attack by June of this year. His obituaries appeared in July.
Ripper Notes #23, July 2005 was a bit unkind. Dan Norder reported that “Feldman had a rather aggressive personality.” Did he ever know the man? Does he appreciate the difference between enthusiasm and aggression? (1) Keith Skinner, once a close associate (2) was even more unkind. In the Ripperologist he guffs: “Such is the legacy of Paul Feldman that the editor of this magazine (Paul Begg) felt he could not write a personal tribute without attracting snide accusations and comments about partisanship. So perhaps it’s appropriate that as Paul Feldman’s ‘paid henchman’ I should offer a few thoughts and sign off for ‘Feldy’.”
Skinner’s opening sentence is: “There are those who will not regret the recent death of Paul Feldman.”
Who are these people? I know of several whom Paul justifiably hoisted on their own petards!
By the way, Keith, when penning someone’s obituary, it is customary to know where, when, and how that person died.
This is remarkable. Takes Dan Norder to task for calling Feldman “aggressive”, which a) is an understatement, and b) is not an insult at all, then he calls Keith Skinner even worse for pointing out that Paul Begg asked him to write the obituary because he was a friend and colleague, whereas Paul was perceived as a professional adversary. In my opinion, this was a very thoughtful and respectful move on Paul’s part, and Keith Skinner’s obituary was just fine. But Warren’s the expert here, so let’s take some notes on how a good obituary is written: 1) Bring up the name of your primary adversary/competitor as soon as possible (third sentence) and throw him under the bus for having (maybe) given the deceased your phone number more than a decade ago. 2) Set the mood by painting a picture of the deceased as a chain-smoking, alcoholic, heart attack waiting to happen. 3) Drop the name of a high profile author and immediately toss his ass firmly under the bus by sharing a personal conversation in which the deceased is both linked with pornography and dropped from said company for his obsession with Jack the Ripper. 4) State that no one (or should I say Non one) is certain of the circumstances surrounding the deceased’s demise, despite the fact you saw it coming a mile away (see #2). 5) Present specific details, such as that although the deceased passed “by June” and obituaries appeared “in July”, you’ve been able to ascertain as fact that the deceased was alive and well four months earlier in March! 6) Be sure to use the obituary as an opportunity to attack the editors of competing and far superior journals, even if there’s nothing to attack them on. Take them to task for not presenting specific details as to the where, when, and how of the deceased’s demise, even though you’ve acknowledged that you, yourself, are not certain of these things….and THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP OF ALL… 7) Be sure that under absolutely no circumstances do you mention one single achievement of the deceased’s life and work. This is most crucial in the writing of a proper obituary.
Christ on a bike.
In case anyone reading this was considering a subscription to Ripperana, be warned that this is what you can expect. Not much more. Believe me when I say that I have no personal vendetta against Nick Warren. I don’t know the man. In fact, I used to respect his work greatly, but what you’ve read above is about as good as his ‘work’ gets these days. I think….I KNOW…that Paul Feldman deserved better than this. And if Warren feels he can comment on how others handled the man’s obituary, then by God, he should get the same in return. Totally disgusting.
Having said all that, I hope the editors of the other journals chill out on each other in future issues. When reading the competition, try to look for the GOOD stuff over the bad, and report on that. At least that’s my take. And that goes for the new Whitechapel Society 1888 journal who seems to have issues with an editor from one of the other journals. Sorry, just a little venting.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott |
Judith A. Stock
Detective Sergeant
Username: Needler
Post Number: 59
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 11:26 pm: |
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Well said, Tom....well said. Nothing need be added. What once was fine has faded, and after reading Warren's "obituary" we know why.
Judy
http://www.casebook.org/2006/schedule.html |
Sir Robert Anderson
Chief Inspector
Username: Sirrobert
Post Number: 591
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:22 pm: |
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"Just an aside on the Ripper articles by Dennis Nilsen. I have been penpals with Nilsen for nearly 6 years"
Penpals ? Why, for the love of God ?
Sir Robert
'Tempus Omnia Revelat'
SirRobertAnderson@gmail.com
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Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 442
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:55 pm: |
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That's pretty scary, Sir Robert. |
Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 3100
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 8:39 am: |
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penpals?
i an think of better people id rather be penpals with. But then again its not me is it so hey.
Tom,
that sounds like an interesting orbituary. You would nevewr guess from kit that there was any bab blood at all between them - would you?
Jenni
"Bring it all back to you"
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Monty
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Monty
Post Number: 1981
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 12:02 pm: |
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George,
He isnt bothered?
You see, call me old fashioned, but if the evidence is conclusive, Capital Punishment seems a viable option.
Not as a deterent, oh no, more a sort social cleansing. Creating space by removing rubbish.
Oh wait, that makes me no better than Dirty Des.
Tell you something, if he did to my son what he did to those lads he murdered, and I got there before the authorities, he wouldnt have the capability to write.
Monty
It begins.....
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Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 3113
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 12:11 pm: |
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Monty,
you are old fashioned.
What is capital punishment anyway - just a get out clause for the guilty.
imho
still its not like i have children of my own
Jen
ps that said penpals!!?
"Things are getting strange, I'm starting to worry, This could be a case for Mulder and Scully"
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George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 862
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 7:16 pm: |
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Hi all
Penpals was the wrong term to use, and I haven't actually had any correspondance with him for nearly 2 years. Nilsen deserves to be where he is, though I am morally opposed to Capital Punishment. That is a subjective matter I am not prepared to argue about. I have never met him nor spoken to him and am not particularly interested in doing so.
However, an amiable correspondance has given me an understanding of the man and his crimes. I have no sympathy for him, and nor does he for himself, and my feelings are for the people he killed and left bereaved. Just to clear that up.
Why I started writing to him is a long story, but just trust me when I say it wasn't because it would be 'fun' to write to a killer - and he wouldn't have bothered writing to me if that had been the case.
In regards to Ripperana - in a nutshell, that is what comes of living in a vacuum.
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 4227
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 8:41 pm: |
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Philip!
Penpal with Nilsen! I had no idea.
Don't get me wrong by interpret it as I am impressed or anything, but it sure is interesting to find out what makes people like him tick.
As for capital punishment, I can truly see why Philip is not prepared to discuss it, because it is a very complex and certainly an extremely sensitive issue. there is nothing black or white about it, unless we still live in the stone age.
In a way I can understand and support Monty's feelings when it comes to uncurable people like Bundy (et al), but then on the other hand we have the problems with capital punishment as a general principal, where the state as an authority takes itself the right to take the life of an individual, which in itself is a scary thought in a way and can easily smack back in the face of the ordinary man of the street (somehow it is easy to connect capital punishment with non-democratic countries), and we also know so far that capital punishment does very little to prevent crimes - but then again its best function is perhaps to 'cleanse', as Monty puts it, and protect society and the rest of us from dangerous people like Nilsen, which in a way I can agree with.
I admit I am torn in the middle. It is not an uncomplicated issue.
As for Ripperana, I had no idea it still existed!
All the best
(Message edited by Glenna on November 07, 2005)
G. Andersson, writer/historian
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Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 991
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 6:14 am: |
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Not that it matters much, but in response to the line:
"Dan Norder reported that 'Feldman had a rather aggressive personality.' Did he ever know the man?"
I did interact with Paul Feldman on a mailing list on a number of occasions over probably the year or two previous to his death. The main topic of conversation I remember was whether the Dear Boss letter and Saucy Jacky postcard were authentic. I believe Robert McLaughlin was also a participant in that exchange. There were probably other discussions as well, but many of them happened before I was aware it was Paul behind the pseudonym he was using there, so I don't recall exactly the extent of our previous conversations.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
 Profile  Email  Dissertations  Website
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David Knott
Detective Sergeant
Username: Dknott
Post Number: 129
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 3:57 pm: |
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In fairness, the latest Ripperana did provide me with one of the biggest laughs I've ever had out of a Ripper magazine.
J R Pope-de-Locksley, after "re-researching all the data relating to the murder in Berner Street" has arrived at the conclusion that Dutfields Yard wasn't where we all thought it was, but was on the other side of the road.
He states that the well-known 1909 photo "alleged to be of Berner Street" has no signs to confirm it (Hmmm - except that one saying Fairclough Street!) and that the other well known photo of Berner Street taken in the mid 20th century shows a scene closer to that obtaining in 1888 than the one taken in 1909.
Classic stuff! |
Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 444
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:36 pm: |
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Yes, I've already taken Paul Begg to task for not offering due space in A-Z for that 1956 'Strange Tales' book that Pipe de-Cracksley puts so much stock in. Begg, as we speak, is hanging his head low not only for this significant oversight, but for having overlooked the obvious fact that every contemporary map of the area, and written description, was completely wrong. It's a shame we have amateurs such as Begg, Fido, Skinner, Evans, and Rumbelow dominating the field, when true researchers, such as Pimp de-Lockjaw, slave away in virtual obscurity. Damn shame, indeed. Incidentally, a photograph of our hero, Soap de-Ropesley, appears in the latest edition of the Whitechapel Society Journal.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott |
Howard Brown
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Howard
Post Number: 1110
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:29 pm: |
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Dave:
Out of curiosity,what does Mr. De Locksley base this oversight on?
Thanks |
Belindafromhenmans
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:24 pm: |
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There's no need to molly-coddle people who've passed on if they were gutsy and aggressive in life. Paul Feldman is one of the most aggressive researchers I've observed in a long time. When I read poor Shirley's book, I wrote to her and invited her to form the 'These aggressive intrusions I have put up with' club. Poor woman! To be on an exclusive quiet project, and then to have to put up with him! And it's clear he wanted to replace Steven Knight in history, which was bit pathetic.
But I respect him for his love of the case and for maintaining it while passing on with dignity. Doesn't your heart go out to him for spending his better years on that nuisance diary fraud? |
David Knott
Detective Sergeant
Username: Dknott
Post Number: 130
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:39 pm: |
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How,
Firstly, he states that an 1877 map shows Dutfields yard on the other side of the road (I don't actually know if that's true or not, but the 1888 Ordnance Survey and Goad Insurance maps place Dutfields Yard exactly where we thought it was).
Then he refers to a 1956 article that states that it was an alley on the left side of the road (wouldn't that depend what direction you were facing?), says that Walter Dew describes the yard as beginning in Berner St and coming out in Commercial Road, and (you'll like this one) that the map in Patricia Cornwell's book supports his argument.
Finally he refers to the two photos which can be seen here: -
http://www.casebook.org/victorian_london/sitepics.w-berner.html
He states that the 1909 photo has no signs to confirm it (which is not true - a sign for Fairclough Street is discernible as is the number 46 on the corner) and concludes that the second photo, taken decades later, shows a scene closer to that of 1888.
David |
Howard Brown
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Howard
Post Number: 1111
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 6:32 pm: |
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Dave:
Thanks very much for the reply and the link here on site.
That old PRO map in Mrs. Cornwell's book isn't made for detail,but general purposes in a newspaper. You're right,Dave..Mr.De Locksley's argument is somewhat unusual to say the least.
How |
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