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Burgho
Police Constable
Username: Burgho

Post Number: 4
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why didn't the 'double event' postcard have a postage stamp?
Can anyone explain?
Thanks.
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Thomas C. Wescott
Chief Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott

Post Number: 525
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was a postage paid postcard. There's a postage print-stamp on the back of the card.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott
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Burgho
Police Constable
Username: Burgho

Post Number: 5
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 1:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, who paid the postage, and how?
Thanks.
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Thomas C. Wescott
Chief Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott

Post Number: 526
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What I mean to say is you could go into a post office and buy postage paid postcards - already stamped. The one used for the 'saucy Jacky' postcard was just a generic postcard that people bought by the bundle. There's no way it could be distinguished or traced back to the owner.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott
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Burgho
Police Constable
Username: Burgho

Post Number: 6
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the info. Sorry to be dim, but if the postcard was pre-paid, surely the 'postage paid' mark on the back of the card would show an earlier date than Monday 1st Oct - say Saturday 29th Sep as post offices were closed on Sundays.
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Dan Norder
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Dannorder

Post Number: 1092
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Burgho,

Just like with postcards today (at least here in the US), you can buy stacks of cards that already include the postage printed right on them. Postage isn't dated, the date comes when it is actually mailed, just like when you put stamps on them.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
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Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna

Post Number: 4306
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 4:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's true.
We have that in Sweden as well - not on postcards that much, but in the post offices in Sweden today you can only buy packages of envelopes and jiffy bags that already have postage printed on them. Interesting that this idea is such an old invention.

All the best
G. Andersson, writer/historian
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Burgho
Police Constable
Username: Burgho

Post Number: 7
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 5:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks everyone.
Yes, I've bought pre-paid postcards and envelopes in the UK. They carry a printed stamp for all to see. What puzzles me about the double event postcard is that it bears neither a stamp nor any other visible evidence of postage having been paid prior to it being dropped in a pillar box (I can't imagine the author handing it over to a post office clerk). A minor point, but still niggling.
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Dan Norder
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Dannorder

Post Number: 1097
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 5:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Burgho,

Oh, I see what you are saying. I think the older cards skipped the printed-on stamp because the official "POST CARD" writing and graphic on the top was all that was necessary. Anybody who had a card with that on top would have already paid for it, with the postage included. I believe I've seen old US prepaid post cards kind of like that too in the back of an old family desk.

It's possible people psychologically liked seeing a stamp even if it wasn't really necessary and then they switched to printing a facsimile of one on the cards at some point, or perhaps the change was meant to discourage counterfeiting.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
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Burgho
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Username: Burgho

Post Number: 8
Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 8:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Many thanks for the explanation, Dan.
My fit of the niggles has now passed.

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