| Author |
Message |
    
Eduardo Zinna
Sergeant
Username: Eduardo
Post Number: 17
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 6:17 pm: | 
|
Attention all posters,
It looks like Nicholas Vassily - who should in fact be thought of as Nikolay Vassiliev - has not attracted much attention in these boards so far. That is bound to change as the next issue of Ripperologist, its 50th, no less, comes out next November. Stepan Poberowski has written the book on Vassiliev and the only place where you can read it all is in Ripperologist. Keep watching these boards for information on how to acquire the next issue or how to subscribe.
All the best,
Ripperologist |
CB
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 11:23 pm: |
|
Hey Eduardo Wow I agree Vassily should attract much more attention. I am sutprised that he is not mentioned at the casebook suspect page while people like lewis carrol and Jill the ripper are. I have often chatted in the JTR chat room and people seem to dismiss him there as well. I feel if there was any chance he was in whitechaple at the time he must be considerd a strong suspect. I have always suported Dr. Tumblety for Jack thinking he was the most likely of suspects available to me But while reading Stuart Evans companion book I came across an interesting report on page 440 if I remember right. It was a report given to the police by one of Kathy Eddowes. She states that a week before her murder Eddows was approached by a man who begged her to give up her live on the streets. He offerd to help her find lodging and a job. He gave her money and asked her to meet him later. This sound like Vassilys mo. I dont often pay attention to stuff like this but the mo was so much like Vassily and I find it hard to believe that an east end unfortunate would know of vassily. Also the money found at the feet of chapman fits vassilys methode he often gave his victums money. The statement the Juwes are the men who would not be blamed for nothing or the jews depending on whitch spelling you support they found on the wall i always felt might have been the killer who knew at the time the people of WC suspected a jew saying the killer is not a jew but the jews will not be blamed for nothing refering to the death of christ. vassily was a religious person. THEN there was the words heard by people who claim to have seen Eddows with a man before she was found dead saying you would say anything but your prayers. The takeing of the organs i have always felt was the most important clue. No matter who you support as the ripper you have to explain why he took the organs and what did he do with them? Alot of ripperologist who write books fail to discuss this issue. In the case of vassily he could have been removeing the part of the body he felt was unpure. vassily thought that the only way that an unfortunates soul could be saved and sent to heaven was for the unfortunate to be murderd. I know this is wild speculation but hey it is better then supporting Lewis Caroll. Keep up the good work and keep me informed. Please inform me of any mistakes in my research I know my spelling is not good so leave that out but I am just starting and I would like to have my facts sraight. Thanks. Your friend CB. |
Eduardo Zinna
Sergeant
Username: Eduardo
Post Number: 31
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 3:43 pm: |
|
Hi CB,
Thanks for your post. You make quite a few interesting points which I don't believe have been made before.
I must admit that one of the reasons why I posted this message was to try to raise interest on the article on Vassiliev by Stepan Poberowsky published in issue 50 of Ripperologist. Stepan has done a lot of research on Russian sources and, as I said, the article is, at least for the moment, definitive.
Perhaps you'd wish to develop your ideas further. We are always looking for good articles and would be delighted to consider something you put together for the magazine.
Are you familiar with Ripperologist? You will find additional information in the Books and Media Section of the Message Boards, under Periodicals. Of course we recommend subscribing, but you can't blame us for that. You may also try our website at www.ripperologist.info or e-mail me at editorez@yahoo.co.uk if you need extra information.
All the best
Eduardo |
Richard Brian Nunweek
Inspector
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 451
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 2:58 am: |
|
Hi C.B,
A week before Eddowes death she was hop picking in kent with John Kelly, so how could a man approach her with offers of help?.
Richard. |
Kris Law
Sergeant
Username: Kris
Post Number: 13
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 9:44 am: |
|
Hello Eduardo,
I just read the story on Vassiliev in the November Ripperologist last night, and it was fascinating . . . I find it very tantilizing that there are several suspects who seemed to have been known at the time of the murders but that we are only finding out about now. At least I had never heard of him before.
But I refer also to Tumbelty and David Cohen just to name two.
There are times when I think the investigations have exhausted all avenues of detection, but new things keep popping up and surprising me.
I found it very intriguiging that even at the time of the Ripper murders that Vassiliev was already a sort of urban legend.
Also, I love the Ripperologist. |
CB
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 5:08 am: |
|
Thanks for your post I am learming more everyday I dont think the date is important because the women was very vague in the report. However the story is I dont know if you read Evans companion book I checked it out of the library and then checked it back in so I am not sure of the page but i think it was page 440. Read the report. It matches Vassilys mo perfect. I just thought it was interesting if Vassily was in England and he had contact with Eddows then he atleast should be considerd. However I leaped and wrote the post maybe prematurely To use A Football term after further review it is possible the unfortunate had heard of the vassily story when I first read the report I thought that there was no way that an Unfortunate cold have known of vassily giveing her story great creadence however that was not the case, I was unaware that newspapers such as the star had broke the vassily story.l Still think vassily is interesting suspect. i enjoy reading the post and I appreciate any knowledge you can pass on Thanks CB |
Stepan Poberowski
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 3:20 am: |
|
Hi CB and Eduardo
I have refused use the mentioned newspaper report from The Sourcebook for my article as besides a work of this mysterious preacher among prostitutes - if he is not a journalistic invention - nothing connects him to Vasiliev. But there is a rich ground for speculations: for example, Eddows told the Casual Ward Superintendent of Mile End: "I have come back to earn the reward offered for the apprehension of the Whitechapel murderer. I think I know him." (according to the East London Observer, 13th October 1888). The preacher might be this person.
All the best,
Stepan Poberowski |
Kris Law
Sergeant
Username: Kris
Post Number: 21
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 9:55 am: |
|
Hello Stepan,
That's not a bad thought. |
lee glass
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 12:16 am: |
|
Does anyone know where I can find who the ancestors of Vasiliev are and where they were from . |
Eduardo Zinna
Detective Sergeant
Username: Eduardo
Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 7:28 pm: |
|
Hi Lee,
I didn't see your posting sooner. Do you still need the information? Let me know and I'll do my best to assist you.
Best regards,
Eduardo |
Mike Sexton
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 12:20 pm: |
|
this was a very interesting read. I've been a follower of the Ripper murders since I got my first book back in the early 90's "The Complete Casebook of Jack the Ripper" by Donald Rumbelow and since then I've been very interested in all aspects and any bit of info I can get my hands on. This was also my first time reading an article concerning a Vassiliev and I must admit, I haven't read the Ripperologist story, only the one that's posted on the Suspect List page but there are some interesting points there. His sort of fantacism would definitely fit the bill for the Ripper's M.O. |
Katinka Wassili
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 6:37 pm: |
|
Hi, I'm Katinka Wassili and I'm from the Netherlands.
I was just browsing on the web on my family name and I discovered this site.
I'm a bit confused about Nikolay Vassiliev(Nicola Wassili).
can anyone tell me something about him?
I'm really interessed, cause I don't know much about the history of my family name!
Greets, Katinka Martina Wassili |
Eduardo Zinna
Detective Sergeant
Username: Eduardo
Post Number: 78
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 8:32 pm: |
|
Hello Katinka,
I am one of the editors of Ripperologist, a specialised journal which published an article on Vassiliev/Wassili in November 2003. Please email me at eduardo@ripperologist.info or editorez@yahoo.co.uk and I'll try to send you the article. I will also try to get you in touch with the author of the article, Stepan Poberowski, who is the author of that article and has done much research on Vassiliev.
All the best,
Eduardo |
