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Christopher Lowe
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Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 9:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am curious as to how others on these boards view the use of similar fact evidence when one is making a case for/against a particular suspect. I know it would not be accepted in court.
Is mise le meas
Christopher Lowe
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Jeffrey Bloomfied
Detective Sergeant
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 6:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Christopher,

You are right, that similar fact evidence is rarely accepted in courts, except when it shows a
consistant pattern in crime (i.e., the Mollineux
Case rules in New York State's courts, or the
example of "system" allowed in the trial of "Brides in the Bath" Smith. However, similar fact pattern evidence is allowable on our level,
with the hope that if we are correct we might be
able find better, or more convincing evidence.
Moreover, as bringing the Ripper to trial is a
moot matter (he or she is very likely long dead
by now), the issue is not one that would daunt us
too much.

Best wishes,

Jeff
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Christopher Lowe
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Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 2:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jeffrey,
I did not mean bringing JTR to trial but using similar fact evidence in this sort of way: Kelly or Bury killed their missus' with a knife therefore are good Ripper suspects. Also people involved in attacks on women while using knives.
Is mise le meas
Christopher Lowe
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Jim Townsend
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Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 4:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi; Similar fact evidence was used to convict me of a crime I did not commit and yet the story used was impossible to be true. The police admitted they put me on trial on nothing but the word of my false accuser and they had no evidence since I was not in the area on the day chosen for the concoction, but by later getting a witness (long after I was arrested) who swore that I did the same thing, they had no chance of failing to win a conviction. Even though the "similar fact" witness changed the first fabricated story, the judge accepted it. My question of course is, why are the courts allowed to convict simply b/c two friends agreed to accuse me falsely? In Cnada, I understand that a judge is not required to decide on the truthfulness of evidence. In fact, I represented myself and have the court records. The judge stated that he was not concerned about the truthfulness of the evidence, but only the similarity of the two stories. These false stories were used to convict me in order to get an Court order against me. Can anything be done about this type of injustice or wrongful use of similar fact evidence?
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Kris Stewart
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi, my name is Kris Stewart and I am doing my fourth year dissertation at universtity on the injustice of similar fact evidence. I would be very interested in corresponding directly with Jim Townsend as you have first hand experience of the subject.

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