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Chris Scott
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Post Number: 153
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Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This article was featured in a Canadian newspaper:
Calgary Tribune 28 November 1888

New York, Nov 24.
An Englishman named Pennock, on leaving a steamer here, was arrested on a charge of wife murder. He was travelling incog. and bears a striking resemblance to Jack the Ripper.

If anyone knows anything this case or arrest I'd be glad to hear of it.
In the 1881 census there is only one male of that surname living in London:
JOHN W. PENNOCK
Born in Marylebone in 1845
A bricklayer
Living at 141 Walmer Road, London
His wife was:
Ellen Pennock born 1853 in Farnham, Surrey

Any feedback welcome
Chris S
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Andrew Spallek
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Post Number: 6
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Only one male "Pennock" in all of London in 1881? Remarkable. Of course, the article doesn't specify that the man arrested was from London, only that he was an Englishman.

But this is an interesting piece of information, begging the question as to what it is about him that "bears a striking resemblance" to JTR.

Anybody checked the New York papers for Nov. 25 or Nov. 26?

Andy
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Chris Scott
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Hi Andrew
I found this further mention which complicates matters. This sounds as though it was NOT Pennock on the boat but that he was defintiely being sought.

New York Times 28 November 1888

James Shaw, who was arrested on the steamship Wyoming when she arrived here last week and held for murder committed in England, was discharged yesterday by United States Commissioner Shields. The English authorities were finally satisfied that he was not Pennock the murderer.
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Chris Scott
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Yet another press report in this tangled saga. This gives a different name of the ship Shaw came on

The Elyria Democrat (Ohio) 29 November 1888

James Shaw, a steerage passenger on the steamship Wisconsin, was arrested upon landing at Castle Garden on 22nd, charged with murdering his wife in England. He says he left his wife alive in Leeds.

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Andrew Spallek
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See my post in the "Shaw" thread.

Andy
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Robin Pennock
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Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 4:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In 1888 a James Pennock of Black bull, Pickering, Yorkshire, murdered his wife. He vanished and a search for him began. A man was arrested at a port, either Liverpool or USA (November)but was found to be travelling under the false name of James pennock.
James Pennock was found drowned the following April.
I have newspaper cuttings and all details of the case.
Robin.
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Andrew Spallek
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Thanks for the info, Robin. It appears that it was James Shaw, travelling under the name Pennock) that was arrested on disembarking from the steamship Wyoming or Wisconsin at New York on about November 23 or 24, 1888.

I wonder if you could add some of the relevant dates to the information you have provided.

Andy S.
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Robin Pennock
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Murder occured night of 6th Nov 1888........ Details of a man arrested. ".....News arrived that he had been seen in Liverpool on his way to New York and a man was actually aprehended there (on cabled instructions from Chief Constable of North Yorkshire)who had gone under the name of James Pennock" This taken from Scarborough Gazette April 11th 1889
This is reported in same article that tells of the discovery of Pennock's body in a stream a mile from his home, where is is thought he had lain drowned since the previous November when the murder took place
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Robin Pennock
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Hi Andrew. I have been checking my records of the murder and find a report of the time concerning Shaw. As below.
"The Pickering Tragedy……Rumour of arrest in New York…..

In the early part of the week rumour spread following reports in an American newspaper that Pennock had been captured At Castle Gardens, New York, on the evening of November 22nd, (1888) the result of a cablegram from the Chief of Police at Northallerton. Our enquiries on Monday evening were met with the reply that as far as the police knew, no apprehension had been made. The matter however, seems nothing more than a false alarm. From later accounts it appears that on the 8th November, (1888), a girl, a native of Cropton, near Pickering, was in the service of Dr Wills near Leeds, stated that her mistress has seen the murderer Pennock at Leeds. The police at Pickering were communicated with and after making careful enquiry in conjunction with the Leeds police, it was found that a man answering the description given by the girl took out a passage for New York on board The Wyoming, on November 8th, (1888). under the name of James Shaw, of Swinton near Malton. Further enquiries showed that there was no person of that name and address and the police felt confident that this was the man that they wanted. They communicated with the authorities at New York to detain this man and arrangements were made for extradition. They man was arrested as reported but the authorities were satisfied that he was not the man and having explained his reasons for travelling under an assumed name, he was discharged. "

I have a large file of cuttings from the time of the murder and subsequent events, which I am happy to pass to you if you will send me your email address. Robin.

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