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Bob Hinton
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Username: Bobhinton

Post Number: 390
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 6:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi,

In two instances of attacks, that of Millwood and MJK we have a witness talking about a person with a dark skin.

In Millwoods case he is described as 'Suntanned' and in MJK he is described as 'blotchy' faced.

Could this be due to Addisons Disease? Or conversley could it be a result of toxic jaundice, such as would occur if the person was an arsenic eater for instance.

Both ideas were raised by Richard Whittington Egan talking about another case (Armstrong) in his excellent book 'Speaking Volumes'

Bob Hinton

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Christopher J Morley
Sergeant
Username: Cjmorley

Post Number: 43
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Bob, You're confusing the attack upon Annie Millwood with the later attack on Ada Wilson. In the Millwood case there was no known description given of her attacker. It was Ada Wilson who described the man who attacked her as suntanned. Check the thread I started on Millwood (was she or wasen't she)for a fuller account. regards Chris
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Bob Hinton
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Username: Bobhinton

Post Number: 391
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 7:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris.

You're absolutely correct.

Please substitute Wilson for Millwood.

Now where's that hair shirt!

Bob
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Donald Souden
Chief Inspector
Username: Supe

Post Number: 784
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 4:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bob,

Sort of all dependes on what is meant by blotchy doesn't it? Suntanned is straight forward, but the other means whatever Mary Ann Cox thought it meant. I have always thought of the fellow having "gin blossoms" on his face. Dictionary says "spotted" which is different than the overall shade of a tan.

Don.

"He was so bad at foreign languages he needed subtitles to watch Marcel Marceau."
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Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana

Post Number: 839
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 8:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could be a lot of things. I'm taking pathology this semester. A quick survey of the textbook chapter on dermatology yields the following which could be described as "blotchy":

Seborrheic dermatitis
Contact dermatitis
Eczema
Hives
Psoriasis
Rosacea
Acne Vulgaris
Impetigo
Boils
Dermatophytosis (fungus infection)
Actinic Keratosis
Melasma
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 2731
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I thought we narrowed this down to mercury - quicksiver - poisoning some time ago.
Quicksilver was commonly used to treat the syph, and produced scarlet colouration to the face.
There was a quicksilver factory in Mitre Square and I found a case where the workers were stealing the stuff and selling it to prostitutes to give to their clients.
Everyone had a red face in them days.

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