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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 2109
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 3:08 pm: | 
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I found this file from some stuff I did some time ago and decided to post in case there is anything on here that folks have not yet seen
Chris
Census records concerning Thomas Cutbush:
Thomas Hayne (his maternal grandfather):
1871:
14 Albert Street, Newington, Lambeth
Head: John L Hayne aged 61 born Oxfordshire - Furniture dealer
Wife: Anne Hayne aged 65 born Oxfordshire
Visitor: Kate Hayne aged 26 born Philidelphia, North America - Clerk's wife
Grandson - Thomas Cutbush aged 5 born Kensington
Lodgers:
John Kirk aged 23 born Kegworth, Leicestershire - Journeyman
George Kirk aged 17 born Kegworth - Journeyman
1861:
20 Cumberland Place, Newington, Lambeth
Head: John Lewis Hayne aged 51 born Witney, Oxford - Furniture dealer
Wife: Anne Hayne aged 55 born Wattington, Oxford
Children:
Clara aged 22 born Wattington, Oxford - Chine and glass dealer
Kate aged 17 born America - China and glass dealer
John S aged 16 born America (Naturalized British) - Architect's assistant
Visitors:
Frances Baker aged 45 born Kennington - Independent
Katherine Hine aged 46 born Wattington - Independent
Charles Cutbush:
1871:
10 North Street, Westminster
Head: Charles Cutbush aged 27 born Ashford, Kent - Police sergeant
Wife: Ann Cutbush aged 27 born Romney
Children:
Amelia aged 3 born Westminster
Ellen aged 2 montsh born Westminster
1861:
Chapel Street, St Leonards, Hythe, Kent
Head: Amelia Cutbush aged 45 (Widow) born Hythe - Seamstress
Children:
Charles aged 16 born Ashford - Painter's apprentice
Richard aged 14 born Ashford - Draper's boy
Alice aged 10 born Ashford
Albert aged 8 born Hythe
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 2110
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 3:23 pm: |
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Oh, and this one which MAY refer to Thomas Taylor Cutbush. Two points of interest
1) If this is Thomas Taylor he cannot be the brotther of Charles Cutbush and
2) His father (Thomas Snr) was born in Whitechapel
Thomas Taylor Cutbush?
1861:
Town, Enfield, Middlesex
Head: Thomas Cutbush aged 52 born Whitechapel - Painter
Wife: Ann Cutbush aged 49 born Ilford, Essex
Children:
Sophia aged 24 born Enfield
Ann E aged 21 born Enfield
Clarissa aged 18 born Enfield
Thomas T aged 16 born Enfield
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 4613
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 3:23 pm: |
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Thanks for that, Chris.
The info on Cutbush(es) is remarkably jumbled, particularly on "Cutbush in 1881 census" and it makes sense having a thread just for census info, for ease of access.
Robert |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5177
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 3:53 pm: |
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In the 1851 census, at the High St, Watlington, Oxfordshire, lived
John L Hayne, 40, born Witney, Ox
Ann Hayne, wife, 44 born Watlington
Children
Clara, 14, born Watlington
Kate, 10, born Philadelphia
Lucey (sic), 3, born Banson, Ox
John S, 5, born Philadelphia
plus 1 apprentice.
I was surprised by John (Lewis) Hayne's occupation of master tailor - different from his later listings.
Robert |
AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2723
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 4:57 pm: |
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Slowly, slowly, catchee monkey, Robert.
Hopefully the details from the 1851 census will firm up our notions of the Cutbush and Hayne clans.
You know that my illogical brain gets confused with all this census stuff, but I firmly believe that your good self; Chris Scott; and that goddess of clarity we call Debra, follow the correct course that will eventually lead to the conclusion we all seek. I have total respect for all your efforts.
And contrary to what many may think I still firmly believe that a member of the Cutbush family was intimately involved in the crimes known to us as the Whitechapel Murders.
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5179
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 5:22 pm: |
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AP, I get confused myself. There were too many Cutbushes. Far too many. Someone should have told them that they only needed to reproduce once to give us one Jack.
Robert |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5181
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 11:49 am: |
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The rose-sniffers from 1851 :
4, South Grove, St Pancras
William Cutbush, 63, nurseryman born Sandhurst, Herts
Sarah, wife, 55 born Croydon, Surrey
James, son, 24, nurseryman born Highgate, Middx
Emma, daughter, 21 born Highgate, Middx
Robert |
Debra J. Arif
Detective Sergeant
Username: Dj
Post Number: 142
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 2:45 pm: |
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Robert
I don't know if you remember the Samuel Bone alias Thomas Cutbush thing from Perry's bankrupcy a while back, but I accidently stumbled on him in 1851. Samuel Bone was the father in law of a William Cutbush....I don't know how the name Thomas came into it all though.
We've had Thomas Taylor and Charles Henry in 1851 haven't we? |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5182
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 3:27 pm: |
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Hi Debra
I vaguely remember you mentioning Bone. Which William?
Yes, we have TTC and Uncle Charles from 51.
Robert |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5184
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 4:34 am: |
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In 1851 Luke Flood Cutbush was living at his mother-in-law's.
3, St Something's Place, Kidbrooke, Kent
Matilda Mears, widow, 67, born Stepney, Middx
Mary A Cutbush, daughter, 41, born Whitechapel
Matilda Cutbush, granddaughter, 17, born Whitechapel
Luke F Cutbush, son-in-law, 46, plumber, born Whitechapel
plus two servants.
Robert
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2737
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 5:11 pm: |
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He might have gone down there to hop a bit, Robert.
Or chasing an escapement movement? |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5199
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 5:21 pm: |
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Well AP, he seems to have got on OK with his mother-in-law. I think she was living with them later on, nearer London.
Or it might just be that she had even more money than he did.
Robert |
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