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Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 425
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:21 am: | 
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Here are some details that Nina Thomas has uncovered regarding the maternal side of the Stephenson family.
These are christening dates for the Dawber family.
IGI Christenings at Sculcoates for children of William & Elizabeth Dauber
Ann Dauber - June 3, 1806
William Dauber - Feb. 16, 1808
Isabella Dauber - Nov. 20, 1809---RDS' Mother
Robert Dauber - Dec. 16, 1811
William Dauber - July 16, 1820
MARRIAGE: Robert Dawber & Mary Ann Taylor - Dec. quarter of 1842, Sculcoates, East riding of Yorkshire, volume 22 - page 417
The reader will notice the different spellings of the surname.
A ceremony as special as a christening more than likely won't see the participating parents allow a mispelling of the surname. However,the same can be said for a marriage. To further "complicate" the matter, the same man [ with my birthday,no less ] has his last name spelled in the two fashions.
A "dauber" was that man or woman who used mud,animal dung,and straw to provide the average Medieval Brit with a more comfortable hovel. "Daubing" refers to applying the aforementioned materials to the sides of the sophisticated Jute's or Pictish home of days gone by....
It may have been that this connotation inspired the name change or merely an error on the registrar's part.....More to come on this thread.
How Brown
Donston1888@aol.com
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Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 426
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:26 am: |
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You can order birth certificates from any area of England directly online from this site. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/births/obtainingbirthcertificates/index.asp The GRO reference is the volume & page numbers.
Robert D. Stephenson - 1841 - June quarter - Sculcoates - Volume 22 - Page 504
Richard D. Stephenson - 1841 - June quarter - Sculcoates - Volume 22 - Page 505
Nina Thomas
How Brown
Donston1888@aol.com
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Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 427
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:28 am: |
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1834 Electoral Roll for the Parish of Sculcoates
#4252 William Dauber - Place of abode: Charles Street - Nature of qualification: Freehold houses - Description of Property: William’’s Square, Mason Street.
#4379 Robert Stephenson - Place of abode: Beverly parks - Nature of qualification: Freehold houses - Description of property: Grotto square
Nina Thomas
How Brown
Donston1888@aol.com
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Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 428
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:40 am: |
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D'onston's sister Isabella........
More finds on the Stephenson family. I believe the following to be the same Isabella D. as in the 1881 census. Adelaide who was listed as her daughter in 1881 now has the surname of Trevor but is listed as single....
1891 Census (38 Chapel Street, Penzance, Cornwall) Piece: RG12/1858 Enumeration District: 189 Folio: 27 Page: 8 Schedule: 40
Head RICHARDSON Isabella D Shirley - Widowed (53) Lady Principal Of W C College born: East Riding of Yorkshire - Kingston Upon Hull
Assistants / Employees TREVOR Adelaide - Single (23) Teacher - birth place not given, WRIGHT Margaret (26) Teacher, SHARPE Janice Thompson (26) Teacher, LIGHTON Clara P (24) Kindergarten Teacher
12 Scholars / Boarders BAWDEN Janie (16) SHERRIS Mabel (15) MARTIN Margaret W (15) WHITE Ethel (14) BAWDEN Mary (14) STOATE May (14) MARTIN W Aileen (13) STOATE Elsie (13) KELLOW Ethel (13) HOSKING Emma (12) MARTIN Olive (9) MARTIN Gladys (7)
Domestic Service CARGEEGE Elizabeth Jane (32) Cook, CURTIS Grace Thomas (24) Housemaid , COLENSO Elizabeth Jane (27) Under Housemaid
[Stephenson's sister was a principal at this W.C College.]
Nina Thomas
How Brown
Donston1888@aol.com
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Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 429
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 10:46 am: |
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West Cornwall College, Penzance
At the time of the 1902 Education Act, this and the High School (both for Girls) were the only Secondary schools in Penzance. Closed in 1967.
This is the "W.C. College" listed in the above post regarding Isabella Stephenson [ sister of Donston ]
How
How Brown
Donston1888@aol.com
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John Savage
Inspector
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 387
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:06 am: |
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Hi Howard,
Re, the spelling of Dauber, - could someone have misread the handwriting and mistaken a U for a W?
Rgds
John |
Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 430
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:22 am: |
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ROBERT DONSTON STEPHENSON
IN CENSUS REPORTS FOR THE YEARS
1861...1871...1881...1891
Donston in the 1861 census, still living with this parents. This listing is as follows:
135 Church Street, Sculcoates, Yorkshire
Head: Richard Stephenson aged 54 born Hull - Linseed, rapeseed and Corn (?) Crusher
Wife: Isabella Stephenson aged born Sculcoates
Children:
Isabella aged 23 born Sculcoates
Richard aged 21 born Sculcoates - Ship Broker's Clerk
Robert D aged 19 born Sculcoates - Lieutenant Southern <illegible>
Visitor:
Ann Lambert aged 71 born Boston, Lincolnshire
Servant:
Eliza Ward aged 21 born Marylebone - Housemaid
D'Onston in the 1871 census
He is listed as a lodger at No. 2, Acorn Court, Strand, London. The census listing is unusual in that instead of falling within a normal parish this property is listed as part of the "Liberty of the Rolls" - see note below.
The full listing for the household is as follows:
Head:
John Murray aged 46 born Durham - a compositor
Wife:
Martha Murray aged 39 born Lincolnshire
Stepson:
Samuel Peacock aged 20 born New York (Naturalised)
Lodger:
Roslyn D Stevenson aged 29 born Hull, Yorkshire
Lieut. HM Coast Guard
D'Onston, still using the surname Stephenson at that point, married Anne Deary in Islington in 1876. The couple are listed in the 1881 census as living at 10 Hollingworth Street North, London. This street no longer exists but was incorporated into what is now Paradise Park, Islington.
In the 1881 listing she is listed as Annie Stephenson, born 1844 in Thorne, Yorkshire.
By 1891 D'Onston (as he was then listed) was living at the Triangle Hotel (see separate thread) and described as single.
All above found by Chris Scott and placed here for easier accessibility.
How Brown
Donston1888@aol.com
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Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 431
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 11:25 am: |
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Dear John
Yes sir. That is one of the possibilities. We'll figure it out sooner or later my friend...
Before I forget..in case Chris Scott is reading this...Chris: Have you [ or anyone else for that matter ] checked into the 1901 and 1911 censuses at the National Archives regarding Donston ? If not,please let me know and I will if you haven't done so....trying to avoid a waste of time on my end.... Thanks !!!!
(Message edited by howard on May 25, 2005)
How Brown
Donston1888@aol.com
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 2042
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 5:06 pm: |
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Hi How
Yes, I have tracked Donston down in 1901. I thought I had posted this but in case not:
Islington Infirmary, St Johns Road, Upper Holloway, Islington:
Inmate:
Roslyn D'Ouston aged 62 born Hull, Yorkshire
Widower
Dispenser.
After the word "Dispenser" under Occupation, there is what looks like "Ret sub med" written in and crossed out. I assume this is Retired <something> Medical. I am posting below.
All the best
Chris
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 2043
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 5:17 pm: |
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Here is a close up of the occupation as listed for Donston in 1901 in case anyone can make more sense of it:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 2044
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 1:46 am: |
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How
Re: the 1911 census, this is not yet available. I did hear rumblings about a possible early release but it has been confirmed that data will not be released until Jan 2012.
Even more worrying for some researchers, and in a move which I completely fail to understand, the Canadian government has apparently decided that no census data after that of 1901 will be made public. It seems there were even serious moves made to have the 1911 Canadian census data destroyed!
http://business.auracom.com/rotaryamh/marks/nomore.htm
This statement has been released regarding 1911 UK census data:
England and Welsh Census Information for 1911.
The 1911 Census records for England and Wales are subject to the Public Records Act 1958 (Instrument No 12 dated 1966), which specifies a closure period of 100 years. The records will be opened to the public in 2012.
It was possible, following concessions announced in 1972 and 1989, for limited information to be released from the 1901 census to direct descendants and next of kin for family history purposes before the records were opened to public search. However, the concessions specifically referred to censuses prior to and including the 1901 Census and therefore did not apply to the 1911 Census. There are no plans for a similar concession relating to the 1911 Census.
A concession announced in 1993 relating to the 1911 Census is conditional upon the applicant requiring the information solely in order to establish a legal entitlement and would only be considered where the information could not be obtained from any other source.
Ian White
Census Legislation
The office For National Statistics
The matter has also been discussed in Parliament:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/uk_politics/3585617.stm
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Restless Spirit
Detective Sergeant
Username: Judyj
Post Number: 53
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 2:35 pm: |
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Chris Scott
We here in Canada are also at a total loss to understand why the govt. have taken that stand re the census. I am involved with a geneology website, doing some work here and there for them and searching my own roots (England),and we are totally pissed off. We have sent protests, emails and petitions to the govt. to try and reverse this decision, to no avail so far. I receive regular updats by one of the researchers/historian with respect to the status of our concerns ree our "Roots". If anything changeswith respect to this rediculous decision by our govt, I will advise you tout suit.
regards
Restless Spirit
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Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 469
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 5:58 pm: |
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Chris...
Thanks very much for this info. So,from 1901 to 1916, we have to wait for almost 6 and 1/2 years.
I say,balls,bullshit,and poppycock ! Don't these people know whom we are looking for? We need to convey to them that we have a hit-squad ready to rock and roll with Parliament over this.
I'm putting the camoflauge paint on at this moment,Chris...I'll be by to pick you up in 15 minutes....yeah,I'll bring the Mossberg and extra ammo......
HowBrown
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 4653
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 12:37 pm: |
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I requested an 1841/51 census lookup at a genealogical site, and was kindly given the following info :
Here they are in 1841;
HO107/1232 f.583 p.30 Charles St., Sculcoates
Richard Stephenson 34 Merchant
Isabella " 30
Elizabeth 8, William 5, Isabella 3, Richard 1, Robert 1month.
Nothing as yet re 1851.
Robert |
Howard Brown
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Howard
Post Number: 1094
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 4:40 pm: |
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From Robert Charles Linford:
William Stephenson data...
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1851
45, High St
William Stephenson, 46, printer (but the 51 directory tells us he owned a newspaper), born Hull
Caroline, wife, 31, born Hull
William, son, 18, attorney’s articled clerk
Richard R, son, 9
Hannah Saner, step-daughter, 8
Hilda, daughter, 2
Eric, son, 2 months
Plus two servants
All children born Hull
Richard R may be Richard Rodford, who I think I found became a book publisher.
1861
5, Lyme St
William Stephenson, 56, newspaper proprietor and publisher, born Beverley
Caroline, wife, 40, born Hull
Hannah Saner, step-daughter, 18
Hilda, daughter, 12
Mill, son, 3
Plus two servants
All children born Hull
Mr Norwood, Russian merchant, lived next door
1851
9, Spring St
Edwin Gray, 25, merchant born Hull
Martha E, sister, 32 born Hull
Mary H, sister, 26 born Hull
Mary Clay, visitor, 34 born Newcastle
Charles White, 26, lodger, Curate of St Stephen’s Church, Hull born Shrewsbury
John William White, 24, lodger, student born Shrewsbury
All unmarried
Ancestry wouldn’t let me download 61
1871
6, Myerson Terrace, Spring Bank
Edwin Gray, 44, timber merchant born Hull
Mary Hannah, sister, 50, housekeeper born Hull
Plus two servants
In 1891 he is still unmarried, 66, retired timber merchant staying at Charter House
My best guess for William Gray is
1881
40 Kingston St
George Gray, 45, Steam Tug Dock something, born West Stockwith, Notts
Mary A, wife, 44 born Norwich, Norfolk
Mary J, daughter, 13 born Scarborough
Alfred, son, 11 born Scarborough
William R, son, 10 born ditto
Ellen T, daughter, 8 born ditto
Susannah, daughter, 5 born ditto
1891
38, Raugelon (?) St
George Gray, 55, steam tug manager born West Stockwith, Notts
Mary Ann, wife, 54 born Norwich Norfolk
Alfred, son, 21, chymist born Scarborough
William R, son, shipping clerk CC (what does that mean?) born Scarborough
Ellen T, daughter, 18 born ditto
Susannah, daughter, 15 born ditto
1901
Fearnhead Lane, Poulton with Fearnhead, Lancs
William R Gray, 30, telephone office clerk born Scarborough
Caroline, wife, 33, born Hull
Visitors
Sarah Spence, 60, married, born West Stockwith, Notts
Susannah Spence, 31, born Hull
Margaret Spence, 11, born Hull |
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