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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 1959
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 5:35 pm: | 
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With little luck I have been attempting to discover more information about the obscure charity foundations established by the Cutbush and Flood families in the earlier part of the LVP. However what I have discovered is that the 'Cutbush Charity of Maidstone' - which is linked to the Flood's charitable organisation - owned massive tracts of London town and city, and still does.
As a for instance, the Cutbush trust owned - or still owns - almost all of the Wandsworth Road in Lambeth, which at that time included the largest beer bottling firm in the world (this takes me back to Janet Taylor the Navigator of the Minories who was married to a brewer with large interests in this trade).
The Cutbush trust also owns - or used to own - Deptford. I mean the entire place.
I do believe we need to increase our knowledge on these charitable trusts as a matter of urgency. |
AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2814
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 1:35 pm: |
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This is something I came across in my travels.
I had not before seen such an extensive summary of LTF’s charitable nature.
‘Luke Thomas Flood by deed poll of 1849 gave £1,500 to the parochial charity schools and £1,000 to trustees appointed under Act of 1819 for building a new church. The first sum was to provide for a catechism on 13 January, a concert, and apprenticing, any residue to provide bread for poor attending the catechism examination and then to apprentice and clothe any children. (Footnote 1) The second was to provide payments to one man and one woman, not being husband and wife, aged at least 60 and once householders of the parish, who attended the examination. The legacies were reinvested in stock under Order of 1888 and out of income of £76 14s. 4d., £30 19s. 9d. went to the trust for deserving persons. In 1986 the church trustees divided £30 between a man and women chosen from 8 applicants. A further charity was established in 1856 by the church trustees' purchase of £400 to provide two dinners, one for themselves and subscribers to the schools and one, more modest, for officials involved in the examination. The meals were held at Bailey's Hotel, South Kensington, in 1896, when among other items £30 was spent on a man and a woman, £39 9s. on payments specified by Flood, and £10 14s. 8d. on bread. The income of £92 3s. 4d. was unchanged in 1930. Scheme of 1936 divided the charity of 1856 (item 19), when £8 6s. 8d. stock became the Ecclesiastical charity of Thomas Flood. (Footnote 2) The rest, £44 15s. stock, with the charity of 1849 (item 18) represented by £1,299 4s. 2d. stock, became part of Non-Ecclesiastical charities.
From: 'Social history: Charities for the poor', A History of the County of Middlesex: Volume 12: Chelsea (2004), pp. 195-201. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=28714. Date accessed: 11 November 2005.’
I also found that in 1809 LTF was in partnership with an Henry Bond and they ran a leather business in Leicester Square.
All them folk in the leather business were as ‘mad as hatters’. |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5279
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 1:50 pm: |
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Interesting, AP. Presumably he got something out of it, somehow. Nowadays it's a knighthood, dinner with Tony and a spot on "This Is Your Life."
Robert |
Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 2586
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 2:32 pm: |
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Surely ,since charities began,the benefactors have been able to claim tax relief?
Natalie |
AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2817
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 3:26 pm: |
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AP says JP...
and dinner with the Lord Mayor of London. |
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