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Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 201
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 7:45 am: |       |
Does a recently discovered photograph of some graffitti found near the scene of the last murder prove Barnetts guilt? |
Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 202
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 7:46 am: | |
OK so that didn't work. Anyone got any ideas? |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1842
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 8:33 am: | |
Speaking of this problem in general (not concerning Hinton): I have no idea about the technical preferences for this site (it could be that there may be certain circumstances connected with inserting files here that I don't know of), but it would be deeply appreciated if people would save their pictures or movie files in ordinary formats that people can actually view.
I work with this stuff everyday, and it goes beyond me why people here can't save their pictures in an ordinary jpeg-file (that everyone with a computer can take) or saving the movie or merge files in a mpg or wnm format. Why complicate matters?
Now, regarding Hinton's file: a psd file is a format that is quite heavy, and so is TIFF. Convert it to a jpeg (jpg) file instead and save it, and don't choose too high a resolution, because then the file will be unnecessary large.
If that then really solves the problem, I don't know, since all attached files here somehow becomes more or less problematic (i have no idea what "unk" is), but it would at least minimize the difficulties.
All the best
(Message edited by Glenna on June 09, 2004)
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1256
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 8:37 am: | |
Here it is ;-)
I have convert to .jpg format
Chris
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1843
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 8:42 am: | |
Thanks Chris. ;-)
Funny picture. I agree, an undisputable evidence of Joe's guilt. 
We finally got him! Good show, Hinton.
All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 818
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 9:05 am: | |
Thanks Chris too! ;-))
God this is way too technical here!!
I personally hold this rare archive photograph to be proof indisputable of Joe's guilt but can't help but notice the obvious hand of a medical man in the graffito
Cheers Suzi : ) |
Ken Proctor
Police Constable
Username: Gizmo
Post Number: 8
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:11 am: | |
MORNING ALL!!  JPEG-TIFF-MPG-WNM ?????????? HOW ABOUT "KISS" (keep it simple stupid). we (or at least me)lowly constables have trouble keeping up with the management.  "gizmo" hot on the heels of j.t.r. |
Greg Hutton
Sergeant
Username: Greg
Post Number: 24
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:16 am: | |
Suzi, I doubt it was the hand of a medical person due to the lack of a comma and apostrophe, an educated man would never write something down unless he was grammatically correct. This is applicable more to Victorian times than to todays texting generation.
P.S. Glenn, the merges that I am responsible for cannot be saved in any other format that I'm aware of, it being a Microsoft programme(Windows Movie Maker). If you know of a way to convert it, and I may be missing the tool completely, please let me know.
Regards,
Greg |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 819
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:32 am: | |
Greg-
Ah but the little documented evidence that we have access to, after the unfortunate incident at Scotland Yard involving the fly papers and Vaseline do state that our medical man was missing four fingers on both hands following an operating slip-up and so his obvious difficulty in holding the chalk may be responsible for his grammatical slip ups!!
Best Suzi |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1844
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:34 am: | |
Nope, Greg. Sorry.
It's just that I've seen other merge and film clips on other occasions (not on this site, though), and in other formats. Could be that they have been made in other programs.
Besides that, I have no idea how Windows Movie Maker works, I am more into still pictures.
My point was mostly directed to those who insert pictures.
But it's still a shame that the merge clips are so hard to watch. I couldn't even get them to work on the Windows Media Player 9, except for one time only.
Ken,
That clipart dog must be rather tired at this point. He just keeps on running.
All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1845
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:36 am: | |
I think it's interesting to see how old Joe apparently managed to get.
That writing on the wall seems to have something of a 1970s flair to it.
All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 820
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:41 am: | |
Greg-
BUT....owing to the above digital handicap he was however......An EXCELLENT texter!!!
BRB
Suzi |
John V. Omlor
Inspector
Username: Omlor
Post Number: 337
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:46 am: | |
I don't know guys,
If you look REALLY closely at the upper right hand corner of that photo, you can make out the faint traces of letters. Yup. There it is again.
FM
--John |
Greg Hutton
Sergeant
Username: Greg
Post Number: 25
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:50 am: | |
Suzi,
Didn't the medical man with his missing eight fingers go on to became the eminent Judge Justice Thumbs?
Glenn, I assume you mean the JTR merges, if so what other sites are they on?
Greg |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 821
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:55 am: | |
JOHN.....
AND ON THE MID LEFT A SCTATCHED OUTLINE OF A CHILD WEARING WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PAPER HAT...SURELY A REFERENCE TO A CROWN SUGGESTING A ROYAL CONNECTION WITHOUT A DOUBT!
Caps in honour of ROYALTY references of course!
Suzi
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Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 203
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 10:57 am: | |
Here this Hans Christian fellow, dont he talk posh!
I dunno jpegs mumbly pegs I just push the buttons.
Hanney you swine you promised you would never speak of the fly paper and the vaseline!
I should point out that file is definitely missing and will not be referred to again. |
Ken Proctor
Police Constable
Username: Gizmo
Post Number: 9
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:09 am: | |
suzi i see the hat !!!!! BUT i see three crowns. a swedish connection no doubt! |
Greg Hutton
Sergeant
Username: Greg
Post Number: 26
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:11 am: | |
There is something bothering me about this new photographic evidence. If you were going to write something, surely you are going to sign it after the text and not before!!
Puzzled of Swansea.
Greg |
Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 204
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:13 am: | |
This is incredible. Another photo has just come to light! |
Donald Souden
Inspector
Username: Supe
Post Number: 253
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:17 am: | |
Three crowns? Forget Sweden, it was clearly the work of a Columbia University graduate -- the American connection again.
Don. |
Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 205
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:17 am: | |
Greg,
You're Welsh an obviously don't understand how this works. This is proclaiming to the world that this is a work by Joe. Rolls Royce didn't put the silver lady on the boot they put it on the bonnet.
Unpuzzled of Kidwelly |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 822
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:18 am: | |
Hinton!!!
Sensational!!!!...How do you do it,be careful,very careful......remember P2!!
Hanney
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Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 206
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:21 am: | |
Ah P2 I remember it well.
P2 or not P2 that is the question!
Well If I have one will you P2?
Thats another question. |
Greg Hutton
Sergeant
Username: Greg
Post Number: 27
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:29 am: | |
Bob,
where did the evidence of a Silver lady on Polly Nichols bonnet come from? I think you've put 2+2 together and made 5 because just like that calculation, these photos just don't add up!!
Greg,
Wasn't Kid Welly a famous Welsh cowboy? |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 823
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:41 am: | |
Bob
It certainly is....If I could do that would be off to join the circus!
Spookily tho re your last sensational find remember that SCHWARTZ means of course Black.....AS IN BLACKFRIARS BRIDGE!!!! Watch yr back ...Cub Reporter Hinton!!!
Watch your back.......now there's a talent!
Wouldnt be at all surprised if we have yet more breaking news later tonight....
In trepidation ......and sure that we're on the verge of a major breakthrough here
Suzi |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 824
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:44 am: | |
Of course!!! Bobby The Kid!!!! (little known brother!)of Billy.... Terror of the Camarthan Hills
Suzi |
Greg Hutton
Sergeant
Username: Greg
Post Number: 29
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:48 am: | |
Thats him, he used to go around jumping in puddles and splashing everyone in his wellington boots, hence the name, Kid Welly
Greg |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 825
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:01 pm: | |
STILL DOES probably!!!
Gosh! those Kid-wellies could give him away a bit on his trawl around the East End...mind you rubber soles enable the pursuant to move silently so I'm reliably informed!
Glenn's gone quiet!
Cheers
Suzi |
Richard Brian Nunweek
Chief Inspector
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 898
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 2:22 pm: | |
Hi all,
All good banter, however you must forgive me in not sharing the humour, Bob, i must remember to find some graffiti with G ,H , The whitechapel stalker, or Romford...
He was obviously a rare individual, that could kill kelly, and give a false description, and then offer his services for a fee to look for himself..
Richard. |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1846
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 2:45 pm: | |
Hi Suzi,
No, I'm just caught up with work at the moment, so I'm in a bit of a jam.
I liked that second pic as well; looks like the culprit knows his way around typography -- something else besides the ordinary chalk messages. Maybe Jack worked in the printer's shop in Dutfield's Yard after all?
All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1847
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 2:48 pm: | |
Ken,
Regarding the first picture... I must admit, I fail to see the Swedish connection. I can only spot one crown.
All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 826
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 3:08 pm: | |
Glenn-
Now that would depend on what TYPE of man he was and whether he could FACE up to the facts!!..
LETRASET one thing straight here....am sure that we're getting somewhere here!
Suzi |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1848
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 4:47 pm: | |
Uuuuh, good one, Suzi.
P.S. I remember Letraset. Seems like ages ago...
All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 827
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 4:48 pm: | |
Gone SUSPICIOUSLY (sniff sniff!) quiet here chaps!!!!
Bring on B & B the sniffer hounds From Hell!!!
Suzi |
Leanne Perry
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Leanne
Post Number: 1345
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 5:02 pm: | |
G'day,
OH WELL.....more waisted space on 'Casebook' to clutter a great site! Congratulations Bob!
LEANNE |
Jeff Hamm
Inspector
Username: Jeffhamm
Post Number: 408
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 5:02 pm: | |
Please people. The interpretation of the first image is so plain and in front of your faces! It's simple.
Joe does not mean "JOE". The pigeon foot mark in the "oh" makes that so clear. See, the pigeon foot mark is being used by the killer to communicate the message that JOE is to be read as Jew. Birds, of which pigeons are a common form in London, fly. But, the killer knew that this message wasn't going to be found until after he left - after the bird flew away. The use of a pigeon foot print makes it clear that the "one who left" was a "bird", hence the word flew comes to mind.
Now, by surrounding the clear (in the killer's mind) transmission of the word "flew" with other letters, the killer is telling us to replace the first sounds of "flew" with the J sound. Which gives the sound "Jew". But wait, there's more. The E and the end is intended to signal that we've now got it "exactly" right (E for exactly, see. I know, it doesn't make sense to us, but that's what the killer intended even though he's not delusional or anything). Also, by using what appears to be a name (but using a birds footprint to clearly indicate it's not supposed to be taken literally as a name), indicates that this word should be interpreted as a signature, or some reference to the actual killer. In this case, it's telling us the killer is a Jew.
So the message Jew, I did it, it weren't the Juwes, is the killer telling us that "It wasn't the people I refered to as the Juwes in my other message who did it, it was me, and I'm a Jew".
It's all so clear to me now. Having freed myself from the constraints of reason ... uh, I mean from the constraints of typical ripperology, I now have come up with the alternative explanation - and the only alternative that could possibly be correct because I have in front of me a copy of Olsen's Standard Book of British Birds and it most definately includes pigeons.
- Jeff (who really should be doing some work! ha!) |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 828
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 5:33 pm: | |
Leanne-!!!! G'Day!!!
Not waisted ....I assure you....wasted maybe.....Dont put all this on Bob!!.....Unfair!
Jeff- Yes ! you've got it!!!!!
Cheers Suzi
(Waiting for the pigeon photo delivery service to come in tomorrow) |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 2520
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 5:53 pm: | |
It's so nice when the whole Casebook goes stark raving mad once in a while.
Robert |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 829
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 6:22 pm: | |
ROBERT!!!
Welcome!!!!!
Great photography 'eh!!!!! So looking forward to your input on these interesting new,vital discoveries!,,,As Oscar would and did say...."There is no sin except stupidity" Sinners all 'eh!!!!! Looking forward to your contributions here!
Suzi |
Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 207
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 2:44 am: | |
Dear Everyone,
I read the newspapers and look at the news, with tragedies, disasters, murders and mayhem. For just a moment on this site some of us raised our heads and had a quiet chuckle. Was that really such a 'waist' (sic) of space?
Bob
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Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 830
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 3:32 am: | |
"The only excuse for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely"
With apologies to Oscar
On a grey,rainy day,a glimmer of sunshine is a precious thing..........
Suzi |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 2521
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 4:30 am: | |
I'm all for humour. Laughter makes the world go round (mind you, it was round to start with).
Robert |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 831
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 6:06 am: | |
Robert-
I knew we could rely on you and your wisdom to see reason in these trying times!
Carry on chaps!
Cheers
Suzi |
Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 1849
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 8:35 am: | |
Bob wrote:
"Dear Everyone,
I read the newspapers and look at the news, with tragedies, disasters, murders and mayhem. For just a moment on this site some of us raised our heads and had a quiet chuckle. Was that really such a 'waist' (sic) of space?"
>>Absolutely not. I thought the pictures were incredibly funny and witty. We have a tendency here sometimes to take ourselves and the whole subject too seriously. Sure, these were horrible crimes, involving tragic personal fates, but we must be capable of lighten up occasionally and look at things from a distance and a smile.
I completely agree with Robert and it is my belief that these efforts have their relevancy once in a while.
All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 832
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 8:53 am: | |
Thanks Glenn!!!!
That is lovely to hear,there is a heart in that stony Swedish exterior then!!
Best
Suzi |
Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 208
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:23 am: | |
Dear Richard
You say he must have been a rare character etc. Well yes he was, I thought you realised that he was in fact unique - and that's pretty rare! |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 833
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:43 am: | |
Dear Richard.........RARE????..Isn't that when you push the fork in.. that the blood runs.......?
Think I prefer my steaks UNIQUE!!....just the one off! |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 2523
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:58 am: | |
"Waist of space" - wasn't that when Ronnie Corbett tried on Ronnie Barker's trousers?
Robert |
Dan Norder
Detective Sergeant
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 137
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 12:04 pm: | |
I'm all for a good laugh, but I'm sure Stephen would appreciate it if we keep joke threads to the Pub Talk section and not the Suspects section...
Well, intentional joke threads anyway, not much we can do about the others.
Dan Norder, editor, Ripper Notes |
Suzi Hanney
Chief Inspector
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 835
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 1:21 pm: | |
Robert-
LOST IN WAIST.or could it have been Space???.......MEMORIES!!!....that's the way forward.....seem to remember Robbie the Robot...WARNING! WARNING!!
Dan-
TOTALLY intentional!!! glad you enjoyed it!!
Suzi
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joe