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Louis van Dompselaar
Police Constable
Username: Etaoin
Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 2:04 pm: | 
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Just saw a feature on BBC London about James Mason's The London Nobody Knows. They showed excerpts, though not the part that features Hanbury Street. A restored or recovered version will be showing in London this week. Does anyone know if they are planning a dvd later on? |
John Savage
Detective Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 120
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 2:09 pm: |
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Louis,
I saw an article on this sometime last week in, if I remember correctly "The Guardian". It is showing at the Barbican, but the article did not mention a DVD.
Regards,
John Savage |
Mark Andrew Pardoe
Detective Sergeant
Username: Picapica
Post Number: 145
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 5:41 pm: |
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For information:
The James Mason programme was based on the book of the same name by Geoffery Fletcher. He wrote articles in The Daily Telegraph, illustrated with his own pen and ink drawings, about obscure parts of and edifices in London. I think the articles were collected to produce this and other books which I have in my collection.
Cheers, Mark (who will always thank Mr Fletcher for drawing his attention to the Princes Louise before it became known and popular) |
Lisa Turner
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 4:03 pm: |
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Hi Louis
I just checked out that news item, it seemed rather erroneous in that it has hardly been just discovered, in the past 10 years I have seen The London Nobody Knows on television at least twice. Also the item keeps quoting 1962, one only need look at the fashions in the documentary to see that it is 'Swinging London' of 1967 as everywhere else correctly suggests. Somewhere on the boards someone did once post for downloading the excerpt where James Mason goes into the back of 29 Hanbury Street.
To see the preview of the news item on the BBC London website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/realmedia/news/hidden_london.ram
Regards
Lisa |
Russ Thompson
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 4:46 am: |
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If anyone is interested in buying a copy of "The London Nobody Knows", try RareVHS.com . I've just received my copy..... |
Terry Wheeler
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 1:46 pm: |
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I saw this as a "B" movie in 1968 with Till death us do part. This film had a huge impact on me and started my interest in Jack the ripper and also an interest in music Halls. Over the last 30 or so years, I have met Lord Mustard ( the busker) in various parts of London and always give him something and tell him I remember the film. He is always very polite and grateful for any payment and i last saw him outside a large rather famous Knightsbridge Store, where he told me he once used to work. A most interesting documentary, and I'd like buy one if possible. |
Mark McGlone
Police Constable
Username: Kidtwist
Post Number: 5
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 4:12 pm: |
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I've been trying to find a copy of this since I first read about it in Sugden. No luck. RareVHS.com appears to be defunct. Google comes up with a lot of tantalizing references to it, but that's all. If anyone knows where it can be found, please let me know.
Thanks.
(Message edited by kidtwist on July 04, 2005) |
David O'Flaherty
Chief Inspector
Username: Oberlin
Post Number: 948
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 5:11 pm: |
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Howdy, Mark. I don't where the whole program can be found, but if you haven't seen the Hanbury Street clip yet, Stephen has it on the site. It's in the Annie Chapman section here.
Hope that helps somewhat,
Dave |
Mark McGlone
Police Constable
Username: Kidtwist
Post Number: 6
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 8:23 pm: |
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No, I haven't seen that before. Thanks.
I'd still like to see the whole film though. There's absolutely no chance of something like that ever showing up on US television. I'll keep looking. |
Stephen P. Ryder
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3275
Registered: 10-1997
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 8:43 pm: |
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Hi Mark -
This title pops up on eBay frequently... two copies are available now, in fact.
Check out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6412074799&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor
Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 578
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 8:47 pm: |
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Mark - look on eBay. There are loads of copies of it on DVD.
The DVDs have only recently been made available. I have a copy on VHS taped off UK TV in 1983. I think this DVD is made from the same broadcast (though not the same copy).
The reason you have been unable to find a legit copy is because it has never been commerically available.
I cannot recommend it highly enough. The Ripper section is only about 30 seconds long, but the whole piece is just staggering. I have seen it dozens of times now and it is still a gem.
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Mark McGlone
Police Constable
Username: Kidtwist
Post Number: 7
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:16 am: |
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Thanks everyone. I found a copy.
But wow, 29 Hanbury Street looks absolutely dismal in that film. It's so desolate and lonely.
That street appears to look very different today in the photos I've seen. I know the houses on that side of the street are gone, but those on the other side and the street itself look lively and rather cheerful, at least in the recent photos I've seen.
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George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 582
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 7:16 pm: |
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Mark - I think a lot of it is to do with the type of film used for making the Mason documentary.
There is no doubt Hanbury Street was very down at heel in 1967 but the film stock used makes all of London look very overcast and grim. Have another look at the film - you will see hardly any colour in it, and none of it is bright.
Hanbury Street today isn't a particularly jolly place. I'm there a few nights every week (just got back in fact). It's a lot cleaner today (though I did notice the sapling that lies directly outside the site of #29 has been uprooted in the last few days and has gone - over-zealous souvenir hunter?) but it's not a place that lifts my spirits by any means!
That said, you should see the state of the exterior of The Ten Bells right now. It is appaling. But it all adds to the Victorian ambience.
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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