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dlmaugie
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 12:26 am: |       |
I recently read a article about the envelope found at the murder site of Annie Chapman. There seems to be a mystery about where the envelope was found and the writing.The article was trying to explain the "M" that was found on the letter.
The article mention a few posssibities as for the "M", such as a street name or person(Maybrick). I think a more logical explaination is that it read the word Medicine.As the pills where taken she tore it into a smaller pieces.
I would appreciate any reply from anyone that is interested in this aspect of the case.
Dave
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Mark Andrew Pardoe
Detective Sergeant
Username: Picapica
Post Number: 54
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 3:37 pm: | |
Do you know, Dave, that's the first time I've seen that suggestion and you might just be right. Although Annie would have to have written it herself when she picked up the envelope earlier (she used it, if I remember correctly, when the pill box fell apart).
My own feeling is the M is part of the address and was already on the envelope when she took it. What is certain, in my opinion, the M is not for Maybrick as it would be rather unusual to put just a surname on an envelope without an initial or title. The M could be for Mr, Mrs or Miss.
Cheers, Mark |
Caroline Anne Morris
Sergeant
Username: Caz
Post Number: 21
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 5:27 am: | |
Hi All,
I'm not sure it has ever been seriously suggested that the name Maybrick was actually on the envelope. I think the most one can say is that the diary author was suggesting that the killer saw the M on the envelope (by far the most common first letter on any envelope, as Mark notes) and saw the opportunity for an unfunny little private joke about a clue left for a clueless force, ie Clever Jim even left them the whores M as a coincidental clue to his own identity, but the fools didn't appreciate the subtlety of it. Oh what a joke.
Love,
Caz
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Christopher T George
Detective Sergeant
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 101
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 1:47 pm: | |
Hi, Dave:
The piece of paper was definitely a part of an envelope with the crest of the Royal Sussex Regiment on the back of it. There are two articles in the March issue of Ripperologist on this matter. The idea that the "M" could have been either "Medicine" or "Maybrick" can't be taken seriously, I believe. It is more probable that it was, as Mark suggests, an "M" for Mr, Mrs or Miss. Also an "S" appears to have stood for "Spitalfields" where Crossingham's lodging house was located where Annie picked up the piece of paper to hold her pills. Also countering the idea that "M" could have stood for either "Medicine" or "Maybrick" or indeed had anything to do with the case, it seems apparent that Annie picked up the paper at random so those initials were not the clue at first thought.
Best regards
Chris George |
Neil K. MacMillan
Police Constable
Username: Wordsmith
Post Number: 8
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 8:15 pm: | |
Chris, Caz and all: Good to see your words on the boards. I have to agree that the "M" is probably a title rather than a name or even medicine although it may be a first initial.
The envelope in my humble opinion, is evidence only of what "Dark Annie" was carrying when she was so brutally murdered. I have my doubts that Maybrick was our boy (And yes, at the risk of being considerd politically incorrect, I believe "Saucy Jacky" was a man.) That she used it for medicine is known. It is also known that she suffered from tuburculosis and quite possibly from syphillis So the medicine could have been a paltive for the T.B. or a mercury patent for treating the syphillis. Either was the girl was living on borrowed time. Have a lovely night. Neil\clipart{beer} |
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