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Chris Scott
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Post Number: 1988
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The 1871 census entry reads:
178 High Street, Poplar
Head: John Stride aged 40 born Kent - Carpenter
Wife: Elizabeth Stride aged 27 born Sweden
Visitor:
Charles Thew aged 15 born Portsmouth
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Chris Scott
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Post Number: 1989
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Of course, the question is who was Charles Thew, visiting the Strides. he is listed in 1861 living in Boyle Street, Folkestone, kent. the family are:
Head: Charles Thew aged 41 born Uxbridge - Greenwich pilot and mariner
Wife: Jane Elizabeth Thew aged 30 born London
Children:
Alice aged 9 born Folkestone
Charles aged 5 born Portsmouth
Alfred aged 2 born Folkestone
Mary Ann aged 5 months born Folkestone

Charles Jnr followed his father's trade, for in 1881 he is listed as follows:
12 Northumberland Street, Greenwich
Head: Charles William Thew aged aged 24 born Portsmouth - Mariner
Wife: Elizabeth Esther Thew aged 26 born Greenwich
Children:
Charles Alfred aged 3
Henry Edward aged 1
Both born in Greenwich

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Chris Scott
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Post Number: 1990
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By 1901 Charles Thew, who visited the Strides, was dead. The family is listed in 1901 as follows:
72 Mainstone Road, Greenwich.
Head: Elizabeth Thew aged 47 (Widow) born Greenwich - Office cleaner
Children:
Alfred aged 19 born Greenwich - Arsenal worker
Sydney aged 17 born Greenwich - Apprentice compositor
Charlie aged 23 born Greenwich - Arsenal labourer

In fact, Charles Thew was dead by 1891 as in that year, his wife Elizabeth is listed as widowed head of household living at 10 Whitworth Street, Greenwich. The family is listed as follows:
Head: Elizabeth Thew aged 38 born Greenwich - Office cleaner (Widow)
Children:
Charles aged 13
Harry aged 11
Sydney aged 7
Walter aged 5
Percy aged 3

The youngest child's date of birth shows that Charles must have still been alive until 1887 to father this son, but I have yet to find an actual date for his death


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David O'Flaherty
Chief Inspector
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Post Number: 854
Registered: 2-2003
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Hi Chris,

I don't know if Thew is a common name, but there were also Thews in Bermondsey. In 1893 another Charles Thew (shellac manufacturer) was in trouble for setting fire to his own premises (Times 16 June 1893). In 1906, Sidney Alfred Thew was in court concerning the theft of 11 bags of shellac (he was the plaintiff, Times 23 Aug 1906).

Don't know if there's a connection; I noticed the names Sydney, Alfred, and Charles popping up in your census entries.

Dave

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