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Caroline Anne Morris
Inspector
Username: Caz

Post Number: 272
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 9:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Absolutely serious, Gary. Liza was selling glimpses of her Tabram photo at £1 a time for club funds, but I was lucky enough to see it at leisure as Liza's room mate.

I assume Liza wants to get in contact with Neal because of her amazing find. Does anyone have an email address for him?

Love,

Caz
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Robert Charles Linford
Chief Inspector
Username: Robert

Post Number: 628
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Caz

He's on the Liz Stride New Nickname thread, so just click on the name.

Robert
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Caroline Anne Morris
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Username: Caz

Post Number: 273
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Robert - I'll alert Liza.

Love,

Caz
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Detective Sergeant
Username: Jdpegg

Post Number: 85
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 2:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

how about leicester, then i won't be able to complain about hotel costs!
jp
maybe i'd even go as it sounds fun.
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Gary Alan Weatherhead
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Username: Garyw

Post Number: 260
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Caz

A pound a glimmpse-okay then I don't want to see it THAT badly.

Love
Gary

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Andy and Sue Parlour
Sergeant
Username: Tenbells

Post Number: 34
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Monty,

Yes, there is only one place for big 'Ripper' bashes and that is the East End. If conferences are going to be held in places that have a 'Ripper' connection irrespective how minute, what about here in Thorpe-le-Soken where Gull grew up and is buried? Yes I know it is ridiculous. I am sure there must be somewhere in East London that would welcome us all in the late Autumn when hotel trade is waning.

A.
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Adrian Morris
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just to let you know. One of our delegates, Mick Warboys - (Oliver Hardy), suffered a serious fall on the way home from the conference at London Bridge Station. Luckily, Adam Wood was with him and made sure he got the correct medical help that resulted in a trip to the near by St, Thomas's hospital. He is alright now, but very sore.

Well done Adam.

By the way. At 10pm (GMT) tonight, Jeremy Beadle will be conducting a Ripper programme on London's L.B.C. Radio station. They do broadcast via the net: http://www.lbc.co.uk/listenonline.asp (10pm UK time)

In answer to Chris T. George's question, an official video will be available in time. Watch this space.

ADRIAN.
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Suzi Hanney
Police Constable
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 6
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 4:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Liza-
Have finished THE CROSSWORD!!!!!!The scottish flower was pictureand the twisted metal thing was curlicue!!!nah nah nah nah nah!Great "do" wasn't it see you at the next one ..if we're spared!!
Love Sue
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Kevin Braun
Detective Sergeant
Username: Kbraun

Post Number: 54
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 9:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks ADRIAN,

I listened to all three hours of the Beadle programme last night. His quests were Paul Begg, Paul Feldman, Andy Aliffe and Christopher DiGrazia. Entertaining show, great guests! I do think that Beadle should have limited the number of calls and let the guests get into more of a round table discussion.

I was surprised to hear Feldman say that all of Kelly's organs were accounted for by the police. No missing heart. In fact he thinks Maybrick used Kelly's heart to write the FM(?) on the wall!

Take care,
Kevin
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Stephen P. Ryder
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 2829
Registered: 10-1997
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 9:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Conference coverage from the local Liverpool press can be found at:

Ripper Coverage

Even has a pic of the soon-to-be-Mrs. Andy Aliffe... ;-)
Stephen P. Ryder, Editor
Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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Andy and Sue Parlour
Sergeant
Username: Tenbells

Post Number: 35
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 1:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Kevin,

Not only do we have painting by numbers, but now have painting by heart!!! Or should it be by art!!!

A.
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Christopher T George
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Username: Chrisg

Post Number: 285
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Art who, Andy, eh, eh? wink wink wink
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Robert Charles Linford
Chief Inspector
Username: Robert

Post Number: 635
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 7:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Kevin

Maybe Mr Feldman believes that blood is thicker than watercolour.

Robert
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Gary Alan Weatherhead
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Username: Garyw

Post Number: 268
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Caz

Wait a second, you were kidding about the picture of Tabram at a pound a glimpse or were you serious?

If the latter I take back my flippant remark.

I'll buy it outright, even if my wife will leave me. (Just Kidding)

All The Best
Gary
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Christopher T George
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Username: Chrisg

Post Number: 286
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi, Gary:

Indeed, Gary, Caz was deadly serious when she told you that Liza Hopkinson was selling looks at the photograph of Martha Tabram for one pound sterling each. The opportunity for a "look" was a fundraiser for the Cloak and Dagger Club, for whom Liza was simultaneously selling raffle tickets for the same purpose. Mind you, I got a "free" peek at the portrait exchange for buying £10.00 of the raffle tickets. laugh

I do have to say, however, presuming the provenance is good and it is Tabram, that it was very hard to relate the photograph of the young Tabram with the photograph of her as a victim, although we did not have the latter to hand to check for facial landmarks that might have helped confirm any similarities between faces in the two photographs. That is, with the Tabram pictures, it did not appear to be as clearcut as with the wedding photograph of Annie Chapman found by Neal Shelden compared with Annie's morgue photograph, to tell that it is the same woman in both pictures.

Best regards

Chris George
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Andy and Sue Parlour
Sergeant
Username: Tenbells

Post Number: 36
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 3:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Water colour!!

The good Policeman in the sky has spoken:

'Art thou the one who wroted the diarnal (cross between diary/journal) please come forward.'

A prize of a bowlful of 'Golden Grahams' awaits the first claimant.

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Caroline Anne Morris
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Username: Caz

Post Number: 274
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 4:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Andy,

What is this problem you have deciding what to call the scrapbook? The words 'diary' and 'journal' come from the same word 'day', and if you look them up in the dictionary, you can choose which definition better suits your own idea of the jottings.

Love,

Caz

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Christopher T George
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Username: Chrisg

Post Number: 288
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 5:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Caz

Yes and similarly I have difficulty deciding whether the Diary is a forgery or a hoax, so let's call it a foaxery, since it has taken in so many foax.

All the best

Chris
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Caroline Anne Morris
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Username: Caz

Post Number: 276
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 5:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Chris,

Nice one.

I trust you took full advantage of being in the presence of Anne Graham and Albert Johnson last weekend to ask them what they know about the origins of the foaxery and how they have the front to mingle with the very foax you believe they have tried to take in.

Love,

Caz
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Christopher T George
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Username: Chrisg

Post Number: 289
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 8:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi, Caz:

Nope I did not take advantage of the golden opportunity to speak to Anne Graham. She was asked by Jeremy Beadle on the floor of the convention if she had forged the Diary and she said "No." It sounds as if Keith Skinner and you are convinced of the lady's honesty, so as Melvin Harris said, that's good enough for me. . . until the whole truth comes out, that is, and we find out the full, real story behind the Diary, which as you and your co-authors have admitted was not the intent of your book to find out.

All the best

Chris
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John V. Omlor
Detective Sergeant
Username: Omlor

Post Number: 113
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 9:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Chris,

By saying that Anne's "no" and Keith's endorsement of her honesty is "good enough for me," are you now suggesting that you buy the whole "it's been in my family for ages" tale?

Or has Anne's story changed since I last came by here?

Just wanting to get caught up,

--John
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Christopher T George
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Username: Chrisg

Post Number: 290
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi, John:

I am of course being facetious. Anne's story has not changed, although as we know the story she tells does not match the original story that Mike Barrett got the Diary from Tony Devereaux. I just think that the invitations to me from Keith Skinner and Caz to meet Albert Johnson at the 2001 Bournemouth convention, which I did do, and Anne Graham at the Liverpool convention were both a bit strange because even if those two individuals are as honest as the day is long, both watch and diary are questionable artifacts and there is no tangible evidence otherwise to show that Maybrick may have been the Ripper. John, I hope this helps clarify things and bring you out of your Maybrickian fog. laugh

All the best

Chris
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John V. Omlor
Detective Sergeant
Username: Omlor

Post Number: 114
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Chris.

I thought so. But I just wanted to be sure.

I'll rest easier now, knowing that you know better.

All the best,

--John
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Liza
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 4:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is for Gary
Yes I have a photo of Martha and her brother
Do you want to see them?
Why wern't you at the conference?
Liza
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Liza
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 6:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I spent most of the conference Banquet and 'booze up' afterwards with Anne Graham, and found her to be a down to earth and very honest person, she was also extremely good company.
I realise this proves nothing about the 'diary' but just thought it was worth saying!

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