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Thomas Burns
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 3:51 pm: |       |
Hi,
I have just come back from The Ripper Conference 2003. It was my first conference but I definitely will return and I have to say it was amazing. The highlight had to be 'Jean Overton Fuller' and her absolutely mesmerising tale of W.Sickert and co. I had to simply buy the book because of the overwhelming nature of her tale.
I can also the Maybrick Diary was the hot potato of the conference as expected and I found the differing opinions fascinating. I came home and felt compelled to read the diary again. After this review of its contents I am still not convince and find it very suspect. I will be posting an update to this message tomorrow explaining why I find it suspect. I believe I have some fresh ideas so I hope people read my message and post their feedback. I am relatively new to the Ripper scene but I feel I have fresh view on some of the subjects so I will try to post some of my thoughts in the future.
Best regards
Tom |
Bob Hinton
Detective Sergeant
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 115
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 4:54 pm: | |
I concur, the conference was another great sucess, much praise due to the organisers, and best wishes to Claudia Oliver and Andy Alliffe who are getting married next week.
Sue,
So nice to meet you and I'll be trying to get that item you are interested in to you as soon as possible.
Bob |
Suzi Hanney
Police Constable
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 6:16 am: | |
All the luck in the world to Claudia and Andy for Friday!! Great Conference everybody!Roll on the next one!
Bob,
Ditto!..what item are you on about? Is there something I should be reminded about?! Mind you I remember most of it!!..difiicult to forget!
Enlighten me!
Sue |
Suzi Hanney
Police Constable
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 2
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 6:57 am: | |
Bob,
WELL???????!!! sue |
Bob Hinton
Detective Sergeant
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 116
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 9:10 am: | |
Sue,
You left a wish list me for some books and magazines you wanted. I thought I had one of them at home and I said I would get in touch and let you know. I tried your mobile when I got back but it was switched off so I left a message. If you ring me tonight after 9.45pm I'll give you the details. You'll have to phone me on my office number (its on my card I gave you) my mobile doesn't work at home.
Now has anybody got any suggestions as to where we can hold the next one?
Bob |
Andy and Sue Parlour
Sergeant
Username: Tenbells
Post Number: 32
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:07 pm: | |
Yes Bob,
IN EAST LONDON!!! There must be somewhere in the area that would be able to accomodate a JTR conference.
Andy. |
Gary Alan Weatherhead
Inspector
Username: Garyw
Post Number: 242
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:10 pm: | |
Hello All
Well, those of us who couldn't attend are waiting to hear of any breakthroughs brought forward at the convention. Are we any closer to naming JTR? Were Stride and Tabram victims of JTR? Who wrote the Diary? Was AP Wolfe named? Do we die only to be reborn to advance as eternal souls? Why do good things happen to bad people? And what of the gossip? Did anyone make a spectacle of themselves? We are waiting.
While all this was going on I was stuck at a small law conference. Let me know if you can imagine anything more boring. A chance to catch up with old friends to be certain. But all of the stuffed shirts pretending to be more affluent than they were. Enduring stories from ambulance chasers. The phonies glad handing and back slapping people they couldn't stand. Oh the agony.
All The Best
Gary |
Bob Hinton
Detective Sergeant
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 117
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:55 pm: | |
Dear Gary,
I'm sorry didn't I mention that. Yes the identity oif JTR was definitely established, Stride was not but Tabram was ( and a delegate actually produced a photo of Martha Tabram at age 18)the diary was in the fact the first draft of an unpublished potboiler by Miss Millicent Meltravers, AP Wolfs identity will be revealed to anyone wishing to email me, when we die I'm afraid that's it, unless you are really evil in which case you come back as Tony Blair
As for making a spectacle of themselves well my Saturday evening ended with the complete works of Gilbert and Sullivan, a partial rendition of Albert and the Lion, a medley of songs from the original Cockney Sparrers finished of by a recital of Gunga Din and If by Kipling and the calling of hotel security.
An escape rope was fashioned by tieing all the napkins together which stretched completely round the dining room and came back to my table, and my brother and I received personal commendations for NOT putting a bloke through a wall. All in all nothing out of the ordinairy really. Oh and Andy Alliffe rather courageously faced up to a loud mouth drunk (not one of ours I hasten to add) and stopped him right in his tracks.
I would like to say it was so very very nice to be with a really, interesting and extremely decent bunch of people who made it, certainly for me and brother Andrew an exceptionally pleasant weekend.
Bob
PS I also discovered humans can consume the best part of three bottles of wine and a bottle of vodka and still walk upright! |
Gary Alan Weatherhead
Inspector
Username: Garyw
Post Number: 243
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 4:29 pm: | |
Hi Bob
Death is the end? This is all there is to it? I'm feeling a little faint. I believe I will lie down for a while.
Thanks
Gary |
Robert Charles Linford
Chief Inspector
Username: Robert
Post Number: 606
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:52 pm: | |
Hi Gary
Of course death isn't the end - there's the funeral!
Robert |
Gary Alan Weatherhead
Inspector
Username: Garyw
Post Number: 244
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 7:25 pm: | |
Thanks Robert
I'm feeling a little better knowing there will be a nice send-off into oblivion. But do people really grieve when a lawywer dies?
All The Best
Gary |
Robert Charles Linford
Chief Inspector
Username: Robert
Post Number: 609
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 7:54 pm: | |
Hi Gary
I think that lawyers should become judges before taking leave of this world. Then they can die peacefully in their sleep. Of course, it isn't until the end of the trial that anyone notices anything.....
Robert |
Suzi Hanney
Police Constable
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 6:12 am: | |
Bob'
Must admit that by Sunday night it began to feel like the WORST part of three bottles of wine and a bottle of vodka(dont forget the G&Ts!) Cheers!
Sue |
Suzi Hanney
Police Constable
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 4
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 6:24 am: | |
Andy,
There's always the prospect of a salubrious weekend at The Frying Pan!!
Sue |
nina burns
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:59 am: | |
Thomas, like you it was my first time at a JTR conference.
It was very interesting and Jean Overton Fuller's performance was mesmerizing.
In my opinion the idea of a centralised gathering of information is excellent.The collation of notes, ideas etc will then be available to future ripperologists.
I would like to thank Claudia and the other organisers for a wonderful experince.
I would also like to thank Bob Hinton for the reminder email |
Andy and Sue Parlour
Sergeant
Username: Tenbells
Post Number: 33
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:17 am: | |
Hello Suzi,
Yes the Frying Pan is a good idea. But nowadays it is a Indian resturant called the Shiraz!!
As a matter of interest my Great grandfather William Henry Weston (the one in our book) lived at No 11 Brick Lane when he married in 1891 (in Christchurch Spitalfields) No 11, was right next door to the Frying Pan.
Andy P. |
Monty
Inspector
Username: Monty
Post Number: 226
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:56 am: | |
Andy,
East London ?
Got my vote....I may even turn up to that !!
Monty
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Caroline Anne Morris
Inspector
Username: Caz
Post Number: 269
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 1:11 pm: | |
Hi All,
The delegate who produced a photo of Martha Tabram at 18 (a very beautiful girl was young Martha) was none other than my great mate Liza Hopkinson, whose daughter's friend has turned out to be a descendant of Tabram's brother!
Great weekend - although it went by as quick as a flash, and in a blur of wine, tequila and Bailey's!  It's not big or clever to drink until 4am, but in my defence I was in very good company.
Hi to all the people I met for the first time (Sue, Carol and Toni among others) - please do join us for the Cloak & Dagger Club meetings at the City Darts if you get the chance. First Saturday in October is the next one, then the Xmas bash is in December.
Lots of love,
Caz
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Robert Charles Linford
Chief Inspector
Username: Robert
Post Number: 616
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 3:46 pm: | |
I was told that the Bacchanalia - um, I mean, conference - might be filmed. Anyone know? Anyone remember?
Robert |
Christopher T George
Inspector
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 279
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 7:08 pm: | |
Hi Robert
There was some videotaping going on, I noticed, during the last session with Jean Overton Fuller, which I unfortunately had to miss since I had arranged to meet a fellow Liverpool F.C. supporter from Denmark. So it occurs to me there may have been filming at other sessions. The whole weekend was a resounding success and it was phenomenal to be in the presence of Colin Wilson and Robin Odell. The weekend was one of many highlights, one after the other. Many thanks to Paul, Claudia, Andy, Adam, Coral, and Jeremy for all their hard work.
As for the site of the next UK conference. . . Perhaps I dreamt it but I thought Brighton was mentioned?
All the best
Chris |
Adrian Morris
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 2:59 pm: | |
The conference weekend was great. One of the highlights was the unexpected appearance of Oliver Hardy on the Saturday night!!!
The Bob Hinton inspired 'jape' with napkins....? Still don't know what that was all about!!!??
The best talk was George Skelly's. Keith Skinner's coolness to questions a let-down.
ADRIAN. |
Suzi Hanney
Police Constable
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 5
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 5:36 am: | |
Adrian-
JAPE!!!!??? I'll have you know that was deadly serious!!! Only trouble was it proved too short from the fifth floor!
Caz-
Good to meet you too!Keep us posted on the Christmas Bash!!My liver may just have recovered by December!(just!)
Cheers-Sue x |
Liza
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 7:19 am: | |
Yup it was a GREAT conference.
Thanks to Claudia, Andy, Adam et al for all their hard work.
The highlights of the weekend for me were:
David Cantor for his inspiring talk (not to mention he's rather a dishy person!)
Colin Wilson, who I've always wanted to meet, for bringing to our attention the writing on the 'Ripper letter', that should have lots of people investigating it. Also his wife was a joy!
Anne Graham was the most natural and honest person, she was great company during the banquet, her daughter Caroline was a real stunner (why can't I look like that?)
The 'Quote of the Conference' has to go to Mick Warboys, who, as I was gyrating with Albert Johnson, shouted out 'CAREFUL HE'S GOT A DICKY TICKER!' (think about it!!!!!)}}
My thanks also go to Caz (careful with that shower) Morris for getting me to the talks/meals on time, and to Steve Ratty who took me on a 'Magical Mystery Tour' of Liverpool on Monday.
As to where the next conference should be held, I vote Dieppe or if not then the East End (the City Hotel in Brick Lane may be worth investigating as a venue)
After all the yummy food we ate I'm now going on a diet!
Hope to see you all and some more at the next meeting and conference
Liza
P.S. Does anyone have a contact for Neal Sheldon? |
Oystermouth
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 2:47 am: | |
How about the next one being in Cardiff? You have the Mary Kelly connection with Cardiff to add the connections angle. It is also very well placed. You have the M5 bringing down people from the North, the M4 runs straight from London to Cardiff, excellent train services to and from the rest of the country and you have an airport next door.
Bob
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Gary Alan Weatherhead
Inspector
Username: Garyw
Post Number: 258
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 8:57 am: | |
Hello Caz
Are you serious about the photo of Tabram and if so I have to see it, I have to know how to find it. I've worked myself up into a state of bother over this.
All The Best
Gary |
