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Chris Phillips
Sergeant
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 44
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 2:16 pm: |       |
Does anyone know whether anything has ever been discovered about "Miss Hermione Dudley", who was allegedly given Dr Dutton's Chronicles of Crime, according to an article in the Sunday Chronicle after Dutton's death in 1935?
From the details given, one gets the impression that Miss Dudley's father was perhaps a contemporary of Dutton, so that she might have been middle aged by the 1930s. I was puzzled not to find an entry for her in the 1881 and 1901 census indexes, though of course, it's possible that she was younger than I've been thinking (or that she was living abroad, or that her name has been mistranscribed!).
On the other hand, perhaps it's not a bad thing to be suspicious of everything concerned with the Ripper ...
I should say that I haven't yet seen Melvin Harris's The Bloody Truth, where I believe there's some discussion of Dutton's diaries.
Chris Phillips
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Jon Smyth
Sergeant
Username: Jon
Post Number: 30
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 7:28 pm: | |
Chris.
I have Melvin's The Bloody Truth and from a quick perusal of the relevent chapter it appears to me that Melvin believes this Dr Dutton existed.
The basic question I might ask you is, "does Dr Thomas Dutton, of Shepherds Bush, London, 1888, who died in 1935, actually appear in a census?"
This maybe a naive question, but I felt I should ask it anyway. I tend to think he did exist simply because Melvin Harris, a very thorough investigator, would have thought of that before writing his book.
Thanks, Jon
P.S. The thought occured to me that this Miss Hermoine Dudley may have been the first to inflict a fraudulent document (aka The Diary) on an unsuspecting public. |
Chris Scott
Detective Sergeant
Username: Chris
Post Number: 63
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 8:27 pm: | |
Hi Jon
I have only been able to trace one likely person i.e. a doctor called Dutton in the 1881 census. His first name for some reason has been spelt oddly (possibly phonetically) so he may have been missed before. His address as given in the census is not in Shepherds Bush but in Kingsland Road which is a northern continuation of Shoreditch High St. so he was very close to the area of the murders.
The entry reads as follows:
Address
147 Kingsland Road, London
Head:
Tommus Dutton M.B. Dist. J.L.B.C.D.
(M.B. is a Bachelor's degree in Medicine but Im trying to trace what J.L.B.C.D means)
Born 1855 in St Georges, Pimlico
Unmarried
Others in Household:
Arthur A. Roberts
Born 1855 in Conway, Caernarvon
Unmarried
Domestic Servant
Elizabeth Langston
Born 1856 in Tower Hill
Unmarried
General Servant
If this is the "Thomas" Dutton you are interested in, he would have been 33 at the time of the murders and if he died in 1935, he would have been 80.
Hope this helps
Chris S |
John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 15
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 5:05 pm: | |
Jon Smyth,
If you check the entry for Dr. Dutton in the A-Z It seems as though he did definitely exsist.
As this Miss Dudley used to visit him in his old age I get the feeling that she may well have been middle aged in 1935 when the doctor died.
I wonder if a search of London telephone directories of that time would be any help?
Regards,
John Savage |
Jon Smyth
Sergeant
Username: Jon
Post Number: 36
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 7:24 pm: | |
Mr Savage.
I have to admit I was hesitant to ask such a darn obvious question, which if I had been able to lay my hand on my A-Z (its at work, stupid place for it when I am at home) the question may not have been necessary.
From reading Melvin's The Bloody Truth, I got the impression that the whole Dr Dutton's Diary fiasco eminated through this Ms Hermoine Dudley, even the interview given by Ms Dudley appeared to have come through McCormick.
The relevent chapter in The Bloody Truth is the one entitled "Rasputin's Russian Ripper" and Mr Harris appears to refer to Dr Dutton as if he has original testimony from Dutton himself, Mr Harris gives us 'Duttons opinions' on "micro-photographs" and "the Rippers correspondance" like, '34 letters were in the same hand', but to the best of my knowledge this Dr Dutton never wrote anything on the Ripper outside of this three volume set of diaries, which I have been told, no-one, other than McCormick & this Ms Dudley ever saw.
So, where did Mr Harris get these opinions from Dr Dutton?, I suggest from Mr McCormick himself.
And, where does this Ms Dudley eminate from? apparently, she gave an interview to McCormick.
Why is it we have no outside source for this Ms Dudley or Dr Dutton in Mr Harris's book?
Hence the question, do we know if Dr Dutton even existed, ......dare I even ask the same of Ms Dudley?
Would I be sticking my neck out (again?) if I speculated that they were both the creation of McCormick?
Maybe, I should get my A-Z back before I ask such an outlandish question.
Regards, Jon |
John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 16
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 8:40 pm: | |
Jon
I am afraid that I do not have a copy of Melvyn Harris book to hand, however the only person who ever saw the good doctor's "Chronicle of Crime" appears to be the late Donald McCormick.He was a journalist and from various things I have read, not a totaly trustworthy source.
The important thing to remember is that Dutton did exist, and he did have a practice in the East End at the time of the murders, it is for that reason that I believe it would be invaluable if we could re discover these lost "Chronicles of Crime".
The whole story of Dr. Dutton appears to have become clouded by the fact that the only person to have written about him is McCormick, who I think claimed to have mislaid these "Chronicles" many years ago. Donald McCormick is now dead, but if we could establish the existence of Miss Hermione Dudley then we would at least have some corroboration that these documents did once exist.
I shall try to get hold of Mr Harris book and will be interested to read what he has to say on the matter.
Regards,
John Savage |
Jon Smyth
Sergeant
Username: Jon
Post Number: 37
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 9:20 pm: | |
Donald McCormick says of Dr Dutton....
- At one time lived in Westbourne Villas, Bayswater, London.
- Prior to 1888 had been a leading figure in the Chichester and West Sussex Microscopic Society.
- Had qualified at Durham & Edinburgh Universities.
And offers something which must be easier to verify. I quote McCormick....
"Well, this time I will offer some evidence for Dr Dutton's existance, His biographical details will be found in various editions of the Medical Directory and the Medical Register. These will show that he lived in Bayswater in 1888-9 and that his last days were spent at Shepherd's Bush."
The Identity of Jack the Ripper, p234.
Hows about the Postal Directory for London, 1888-89-90.
Well, that should make it easier, assuming they refer to the only Dr Thomas Dutton in existance.
Regards, Jon |
Chris Phillips
Sergeant
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 45
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 3:48 am: | |
Thanks for the responses.
The existence of Dr Dutton is indeed well established (as already mentioned, there is a potted biography in the "A-Z"). It was Hermione Dudley I was a little sceptical about.
On Dutton himself, there are also several press reports of his death, of which extracts were printed by Paul Feldman, in "Jack the Ripper: The Final Chapter" (1998) - from the Daily Express, 12 and 13 November 1935, and the Empire News, 17 November 1935.
The 13 November report says that a diary kept by him for more than 50 years "has been found", which reveals him to be a "keen student of crime", among other things. It's not clear to me that this report is really consistent with the one in the Sunday Chronicle about Hermione Dudley, which says that she had been given Dutton's "Chronicles of Crime" some time ago. That report goes on to speak of the "Chronicles" as his "crime diary", but the quotations attributed to Miss Dudley describe it simply as "his diary". (I suppose it is possible the Express means that the diary "has been found" in Miss Dudley's possession, though to me it gives the impression that it had been found in Dutton's rooms!)
John Ruffels sent me the following report from The West London Observer, Friday, November 15, 1935, p. 10:
BRILLIANT DOCTOR'S SAD END.
FOUND DEAD BESIDE HIS BED. LIVED A LONELY LIFE.
Dr Thomas Dutton, M.D., M.B., M.R.C.P., L.R.C.S., aged 78, of 290 Uxbridge Road, Shepherd's Bush, at one time a brilliant medical man, but who for many years had practically led the life of a recluse, seeing only a few patients, was found dead in his night attire beside his bed last week-end.
The rooms in which he lived were dusty and covered with cobwebs, and numbers of papers found gave the appearance of not having been touched for years.
The discovery was made by Mr Willis, a sub-tenant of the doctor's house.
Miss H. Dutton, of Cornwall Road, Westbourne Park, a sister of the doctor, called at the house as she had heard her brother was ill. Mr Willis told her he had not seen the old man for several days, and on going to his rooms found him dead.
Dr J. Dockrill, of Uxbridge Road, was called in and found the man had been dead about 20 hours.
The body was taken to Hammersmith mortuary, where Dr McCarty made a post-mortem examination and found death was due to heart disease.
Dr Dutton, who was formerly a prominent Harley Street consultant, specialised in obstetrics and dietetics.
He saw his last patient at Shepherd's Bush on November 5th.
He commenced his medical career at Durham in 1882, and was later at Guy's Hospital. He was hon. Surgeon to the Royal Defence Corps and a former vice-chairman of the Pure Food Society.
For some years he saw few patients, and devoted his time to writing medical works.
Among his better known works are "Sea Sickness", " Voyaging for Health", "Domestic Hygiene", "Feeding and Rearing Children", "Indigestion", "Obesity", "Digestion and Diet", and " Every Mother's Book".
When the funeral takes place on Saturday it is expected that many well-known medical men will be present."
Chris Phillips
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John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 18
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:12 am: | |
Chris Pillips
Thanks for that last post, I }knew I had read something like that somewhere, but never thought to look in Paul Feldman's Book.
The reference to the doctor's sister Miss H. Dutton, is quite interesting. I wonder if by any chance her first name was Hermione?
I wonder if a search of the electoral registers for the Paddington area 1935 would reeveal her name?
Regards,
John Savage |
John Ruffels
Sergeant
Username: Johnr
Post Number: 27
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:47 pm: | |
Hello John and Chris et al,
I wonder what the press accounts of the funeral say?
Did regional papers record those attending?
Was he mentioned in THE TIMES?
Harley Street and all...
I think Donald Rumbelow had something to say on the Dutton "Chronicles"...(I've lent mine).. |
Bruce Tonnermann
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 2:36 am: | |
It is apparent from some of the posts here that there are those who do not always check the available published sources before throwing in their comments. |
John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 20
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 7:08 pm: | |
For what it is worth I have checked the register of deaths for 1935, and the following appears in the December quarter.
Dutton, Thomas Age 79 Hammersmith 1a 267 page 215.
I also checked the National Probate Calenders for 1935-6 and there is no record of his having left a will.
Having had a chance to look at Melvin Harris "The Bloody Truth", it is clear that Mr. Harris source is Donald McCormick and an article in the Sunday Chronicle, 17th. November 1935. In this article Miss Hermione Dudley is quoated as follows "My father was one of the few men to whom he (Dr. Dutton) showed this document (the diaries) and owing to my interest in it, Dr. Dutton gave it to me some time ago"
So it looks like Miss Dudley was the last person to have possesion of these Chronicles of Crime, all we have to do now is find out what happened to her?
John Savage |
Jon Smyth
Sergeant
Username: Jon
Post Number: 38
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:17 pm: | |
Let me just explain a minor point which led to my 'naive question'.
Yes, absolutely a doctor by the name of Dutton existed,....but was it McCormick's "Dutton"?, or more exactly, was it the Dutton who is presented to us by McCormick.
When an author interviews a subject who has such an important contribution to make, as we are told was the case with 'Dr Dutton', then surely the author has a duty to substantiate the reliability of the source and the subjects background is of great importance.
When McCormick is pressed, or feels obliged, to offer 'proof' of the existance of this 'Dr Dutton' he merely provides only what anyone can find in a London Medical Directory or Register of the period.
If McCormick's 'Dutton' is indeed the real Dr Dutton (of the A-Z) then McCormick could have provided something of a little more personal nature. And there is plenty to offer.
Put another way, has McCormick selected a name out of the obituary column and concocted an unsupportable and more importantly an unverifiable tale of intrigue surrounding this individual?.
Does 'Dr Dutton' ever get a mention by McCormick prior to Dutton's death?.
Who is this Dudley woman and did she give an interview to the Chronicle herself or was it an interview with McCormick who gave the story to the Chronicle? (therefore, did she even exist?).
If Dudley spoke to a reporter then under what circumstances was she there?.
Was the Chronicle attempting to verify the story by McCormick?.
And, stunningly in my opinion, we are being led to believe that a Doctor with such a unique revelation concerning Jack the Ripper and, not forgetting labouring 60+ years on a three volume 'diary' would give it away to the daughter of a friend?.
The whole thing just smells of 'hocus pocus' to me.
Too many loose ends.
Regards, Jon
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John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 21
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 5:07 pm: | |
Jon,
You ask "has McCormick concocted an unsupportable and unverifiable tale of intrigue surrounding this indicidual".
I think that you have hit the nail on the head, and as I said earlier I do not altogether trust McCormick. Somewhere I recall reading that he worked on one or other of the newspapers that printed the details of Dr. Dutton's death, unfortunately I have been unable to find this reference in any of my books. If this is so he could have made the whole thing up in 1935 But why?
My feeling is that if the existance of Miss Hermione Dudley can be verified, then there is a possibility that the story may have some substance, if she cannot be traced, then it is more likely that the whole story is a fabrication.To do this it is necessary to go back to the source material (ie: newspaper reports). Then try to find some trace of a person called Hermione Dudley who lived in West London at or around 1935.
This would not be an easy task, but as I was able to check the death registers at my local library, I thought it wise to establish for my self some evidence of Dr. Duttons death.
If I have time in the future to go to London and check newspapers at Colindale, and available records at the London Metropolitain Archive I may be able to throw further light on this subject.
Regards,
John Savage |
Chris Phillips
Sergeant
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 49
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 5:43 pm: | |
If it's any help, in the Post Office Directories for 1935 there are two Misses Dudley (no initials given), one in Clarence gate gardens NW1 and the other in Forest hill SE23. Both had disappeared by the next directory I saw, 1937.
However, as the newspaper report refers to her being in a Bayswater boarding house, we probably shouldn't expect her to be listed in a directory anyway.
As I mentioned previously, she doesn't seem to appear in either the 1881 or the 1901 census.
Chris Phillips
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John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 22
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 9:13 am: | |
Chris Phillips
Many thanks for that information.
Clarence Gate Gardens NW1, would presumably be to the west side if Regent's Park, so not too far from the Paddington?Bayswater area were Miss Dudley is said to have resided.
I notice in your earlier post there is mention, in the article from the West London Observer, of Miss H. Dutton of Cornwall Road, Westbourne Park; would there be any trace of her in the Post Office Direectory for 1935?
Regards,
John Saavage |
Chris Phillips
Sergeant
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 50
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 10:00 am: | |
John
I didn't check for her, but I've made a note to have a look when I next have a chance.
Chris Phillips
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John Ruffels
Sergeant
Username: Johnr
Post Number: 35
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:32 pm: | |
Hello,
Chris thanks for starting this worthwhile thread on the verifiability of McCormick's informants: Dutton and Dudley.
Whilst it is good for posters to site various JTR authors, I hope we won't be sidetracked too much with criticism(of Melvin Harris' judgment of Dutton for example).
I have been labouring in the vineyard of Ripperology for three score years (desultorily).
So, I was able to send a brief but unsatisfactory, list of questions to McCormick,. These consisted of about five questions set out on airmail weight paper, with a gap for answers, and a remittance to cover postage back to Australia.
Most of the questions were of a general nature; I didn't want to scare him off.I only got that one chance.(This was in the late 'seventies).
The answers, sumarised said: he no longer had his papers;he met Dutton whilst a crime reporter in the 'thirties.He couldn't suggest anyone else who could tell me more about Montague Druitt.
I know I'm repeating myself, but, I think when someone finds a press account of those who attended Dutton's funeral, we might encounter a
mention of Miss Dudley.
I wrote too, to the West Sussex Records Office and confirmed a "Dr T. Dutton" had been a member
of the West Sussex and Chichester Microscopical Society.No mention of dissertations by Dutton on microphotography.Only one on "Germs".They think circa 1885-7 he resided at Sidlesham.
Sadly no microphotograpic analysis of the JTR letters.
I am sure Donald Rumbelow trod these paths before us, and in his "Complete JTR",I think, says the "Chronicles" no longer exist.(I've lent mine).
I read McCormick's mini-biography on the inside cover of one of his books.I think he later worked for THE EXPRESS.
I also recall his having covered the "D"Day landings at Normandy in WW2.This suggests to me, he would have been familiar with Americanisms, like "Goddam"-(to quote the JTR poem).... |
John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 27
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 4:28 pm: | |
Hi
Ifound the following in British Biographical Index, taken from "The Medical Whos Who 1914" |
Christopher T George
Detective Sergeant
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 123
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 6:51 am: | |
Hi, John et al:
Good work, John, in digging up that listing on Dr. Thomas Dutton from "The Medical Who's Who 1914" which provides good verification of his life and accomplishments. I note at the end of the listing, it gives a telephone number for him. Now if we could only pick up the phone and ask him. . . 
It would appear as well from the The West London Observer, Friday, November 15, 1935, p. 10, cited above, that Miss H. Dudley [presumably Hermoine Dudley] was a sister of the doctor's and not a daughter of a friend of the doctor's as Melvin Harris states. However, does that make sense -- wouldn't her name be Dutton and not Dudley if she was a sister of the doctor's? Unless that is she was a half sister, perhaps.
In any case, it has to be wondered if what Dr. Dutton had in his diaries was of any value or if it was just idle speculation about the case, or, perhaps more to the point, if what we are told about Dutton by McCormick has been a twisting of the truth about the good doctor.
In his book, Rumbelow finds it "frankly incredible" (Penguin paperback, The Complete Jack the Ripper, p. 122) that Dutton could have examined as many as 128 Jack the Ripper letters and by means of "microphotography" found 34 of the letters to be by the same hand, when today we can't agree that the handwriting is the same. Certainly Evans and Skinner in their recent definitive book about the letters make no such claim. So McCormick's claim about Dutton is just more hokum, shown I think by the even more incredible claim that Dutton photographed the Goulston graffito but that Warren ordered the writing on the wall washed off and the prints of the incription destroyed, which assumes that Dutton was in Goulston Street in the doorway of Wentworth Model Dwellings in the early hours of September 30. Why would Dutton have been called out to the scene at that time? What other evidence besides McCormick is there that he was there to photograph the inscription? None whatsoever except for McCormick. There is no mention of this taking place in the Eddowes inquest papers and the truth seems to have been that the inscription was erased before any photographs were taken. So apparently this is just more rubbish from McCormick.
Best regards
Chris George
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Chris Phillips
Detective Sergeant
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 56
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 11:36 am: | |
It would appear as well from the The West London Observer, Friday, November 15, 1935, p. 10, cited above, that Miss H. Dudley [presumably Hermoine Dudley] was a sister of the doctor's and not a daughter of a friend of the doctor's as Melvin Harris states.
In the transcript John Ruffels sent me, the sister is called Miss H. Dutton, as would be expected, not Miss H. Dudley.
Chris Phillips
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John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 28
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 5:07 pm: | |
Hi Chris George,
Many thanks for your kind words, and yes when reading that telephone number I had exactly the same thought! I would like to apologise for the rather poor quality of reproduction, I got the original off a michofiche in the library which I printed out, and then brought that home to scan and enlarge, in the process the lack of clarity. For this reason let me state that Dr. Dutton lived at Loftus Precinct 290 Uxbridge Road and tel. 3222 Padd. (?Paddington) Also reads "Archives at Roentgen Bay.
I note your comments regarding the reliablity of Dr. Dutton's diaries and would agree that McCormick has probably elaborated enormously, however let me quote from The JTR A-Z "For all the problems given to the researcher, Duttons residence in Aldgate....... means that the rediscovery of his Chronicles of Crime would be a great blessing to Ripper studies". As I think I said in an earlier post I beleieve that if we could establish the existance of Miss Hermione Dudley (or Dutton) this would tend to add weight to there having existed.
As we now know were the doctor was born and lived in 1914 we may now be able to find some eveidence of Miss Hermione in census records or similar.
Chris Phillips, Thanks for your last post, I think we both agree that Miss Dudley/Dutton are probaly one and the same person.
Regards to you both
John Savage |
John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 29
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 5:15 pm: | |
Hi Chris Scott,
Further to your earlier post regarding the 1881 census entry for Tommus Dutton of 147 Kingsland Road. He was born at St. Georges Pimlico and if you look at my post above you will see that Dr. Duttons entry in the Medical Whos Who for 1914, shows that he was born in St. Georges Square, Pimlico, so no Doubt the same person. We now have his address in 1881 and 1914. Many thanks.
John Savage |
Chris Phillips
Detective Sergeant
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 57
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 6:38 pm: | |
Paul Feldman, in "Jack the Ripper - the Final Chapter", quotes the following, frustratingly incomplete, report on Dutton's death from the Empire News, November 17 1935
TRAGIC LAST DAYS OF A BRILLIANT DOCTOR
A few days after the last murder committed by that fiend in human guise, 'Jack the Ripper', and at a time when the scared but infuriated people in the Whitechapel district were crying out for the life of the assassin, there passed down the Whitechapel-road a man, carrying a small, black bag.
At once he was surrounded by a mob of people and violently hustled, and it required the united efforts of several police officers to save him from the crowd and take him along to Leman-street Police Station amidst cries of 'Jack the Ripper - Jack the Ripper.' Once inside the police station, however, a few minutes sufficed to prove that far from being the man who had murdered and mutilated no fewer than six women of the unfortunate class, the victim of this outcry was none other than a doctor working in the district who had endeavoured to assist the police by a little amateur detective work in connection with the crimes.
The man was Dr Thomas Dutton, and this week his dead body was found, lying on the floor beside his bed ...
It has only just struck me that this closely matches the incident reported in the Times for 12 November 1888 (near the end of this page on this site: http://casebook.org/press_reports/times_[london]/lt881112.html)
Howells and Skinner, in "The Ripper Legacy", pointed out the similarity between this incident and that of "White-eyes" in a fanciful account of E. T. Woodhall published in 1937.
It strikes me that the man in the Times, claiming to be a doctor working at St George's [presumably Tooting] also has quite a bit in common with the "Brixton doctor" whom PC Spicer claimed to have arrested, in his account published in 1931 in the Daily Express, despite the fact there are definite discrepancies between Spicer's account and the one in the Times.
The story published after Dutton's death seems definitely to be based on the incident of 11 November 1888 reported in the Times, whether the man in question was really Dutton or not. But is it possible that Spicer's claim, 43 years on, also goes back to the same source?
At any rate, it would be really interesting to know what more the Empire News article says, and what authority it gives for identifying the arrested man as Thomas Dutton.
Chris Phillips
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John Savage
Sergeant
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 30
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 7:52 pm: | |
Chris Phillips,
I agree, it would be interesting to see the full report in the Empire News.
Regarding the Times report of 12th November 1888, the age given for this doctor from St. Georges Hospital (35) would fit with Dr. Dutton, who was born in 1854.
John Savage |
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