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Maria Giordano
Inspector
Username: Mariag
Post Number: 488
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:08 am: | 
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Hey, Hutch, don't let them get you down! I have faith in you.
Unfortunately, I have a very important meeting at 3 but I'm SO looking forward to logging in as soon as possible.
Gives me something to live for.
Mags
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Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana
Post Number: 847
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 12:09 pm: |
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So it will be about 2:00 PM in the central United States?
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Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 3061
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 12:20 pm: |
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Yo Diana,
from my clock and the time of your post we are about five hours ahead of whatever time the casebook is set to.
yo
Jenni
"Don't you know it's true what they say, Things happened for a reason,"
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Christopher T George
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 1654
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 12:57 pm: |
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Should be 3:00 pm Eastern U.S. time. We are depending on you, Philip. . .
Chris
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
http://christophertgeorge.blogspot.com/
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George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 841
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 12:57 pm: |
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Hi folks. I don't know what times you call them, but the East Coast of the US will be at 3pm, the next time zone along (sort-of central Eastern) is 2pm, the next one (West-ish) is 2pm and the West Coast is 1pm.
If you're in Australia you've already seen it! 
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 844
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:01 pm: |
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And now the time has come to disclose the new information. It will show some to be remarkably insightful and others to be mistaken or just frauds.
Earlier this year I was e-mailed by a poster on Casebook with whom I correspond off-boards. I was asked, as I was one of the speakers at Brighton, if I would make a presentation to a certain other poster for their contribution to Ripperology. I had no trouble agreeing to do so. I was sent a speech to read and was given full information of what the prize itself would be. I was very surprised but honoured not only to be asked to do this, but also at what part of that prize would reveal (the presentation will now be made at the December meeting of the WS1888).
The parcel was sent to me at the Brighton hotel several days before the Conference, but it didn’t arrive until the day after it was over. Claudia Aliffe kindly took it with her when she left and posted it on to me.
As the new information could not be shared at Brighton, the source thought it would be a nice idea if it was given to the good, bad and ugly people who use Casebook and that a ‘countdown’ as a teaser would be fun.
The source has told me that they have found the years of mystery greatly amusing, but that they are now happy for the mystery to end – though, as you will see, it is by degrees.
This is not a joke. This is not a fraud. This is something many people have been waiting for for a long time. Its authenticity may be debated, but it is genuine.
Ladies and Gentlemen, although somewhat shy, I give you…
A P Wolf
The photo was taken in September 2000.
Jane – my suggestion is you do what you did to MJK and by mirroring part of his face, removing dog and pillow, show us a reconstruction of The Legend.
I have scanned and rotated the image at a far higher resolution. I think we can now safely say he is not a woman.
I hope this was worth the wait. And my (our?) congratulations to the couple of you who guessed correctly.
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Christopher T George
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 1655
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:33 pm: |
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Howl! Howl! She/He is after all a man of stone!
Nice revelation, Philip.
Chris
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
http://christophertgeorge.blogspot.com/
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Christopher J Morley
Sergeant
Username: Cjmorley
Post Number: 45
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:36 pm: |
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And I thought AP was a lady. |
Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 3068
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:41 pm: |
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umm...
four more words needed!
"Don't you know it's true what they say, Things happened for a reason,"
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Stephen P. Ryder
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3308
Registered: 10-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:43 pm: |
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Phil -
Nice post - but where's the obligatory bottle of Spanish brandy? 
Out of curiosity, who does this prove to be a "fraud"?
- Stephen
Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor
Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana
Post Number: 848
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:45 pm: |
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AP said once that (s)he was a lady. That was after I referred to him/her in one of my posts using the masculine pronoun. I apologized and thought of this very naughty person as a member of my gender from then on.
'Course I realize why he did it. It certainly is great to be a member of the superior gender. |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3164
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:58 pm: |
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PHILLIP!!!!!
Thbats the biggest fraud EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor dogs!
Suzi |
Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 3071
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:02 pm: |
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Yo Suzi,
whatever do you mean?
Yo
Jenni
ps this yo stuff is getting kinda old huh?
"Don't you know it's true what they say,That life it ain't easy"
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3167
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:27 pm: |
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Well Philip!!!!! HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!!!!!!! LATEST.........grrrrrrrrrrrr cant post it!
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3168
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:35 pm: |
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Well there we are!!!! Case solved!!!!!! LOL! |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3169
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:35 pm: |
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Well there we are!!!! Case solved!!!!!! LOL! |
Phil Hill
Chief Inspector
Username: Phil
Post Number: 999
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:38 pm: |
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I don't see why this matters in the slightest - but (in any case)where is the proof that this is a picture of AP? |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3170
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:38 pm: |
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TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!! OOOOOOoooooops sorry Just enthusiasm I guess!!!! failing that incompetence!!!!
Suzi |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3171
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:40 pm: |
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Phil
The Wolf is top right
LOL Suzi |
Lindsey Millar
Inspector
Username: Lindsey
Post Number: 494
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:42 pm: |
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Nice try, Philip..
However, to go back to a couple of points that Helge made earlier:
a) No matter what evidence you have, there is no guarantee it will convince anyone other than those who wish to be convinced
b) If it is something new, we will debate it for at least ten years until it all peters out, and we will end up with only one more "possibility"
I still remain unconvinced and somewhat confused.
But that's not unusual.
Lyn
(Message edited by lindsey on November 01, 2005)
Never leave home without a paperback.
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George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 845
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:58 pm: |
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And I'm sure that's just the way AP wants it, Lyn.
Phil - I did make very clear it was not going to change anyone's life and wasn't directly connected to the Ripper, so I am not guilty of proclaiming an announcement that is ultimately anti-climatic. The proof is that AP and I have been conversing on this issue for some time and he offered the information of his own volition and has confirmed several times it is actually him. If anyone chooses to disregard it and maintain their own interpretations, that is ultimately their own decision.
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 2549
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 4:59 pm: |
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Well AP,you have cultivated anonymity right up to the point of making yourself a sort of rival myth
to Jack!
Now we get a new portrait,emerging in colourful bits and pieces of the "real" AP---and accompanied by your wolves!!!
I guess you"ve had a laugh-leading us all on,[ so much so that I for one couldnt even get through for the site being loaded with subscribers!]
Well it was a bit of fun I suppose-and a very good pic.
Natalie
Thanks Philip for agreeing to go along with all this tantalising titilation!
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Ally
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Ally
Post Number: 1112
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:03 pm: |
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Hey AP,
Pretty puppies. What are their names?
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Richard Brian Nunweek
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 1510
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:08 pm: |
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Now come on Philip,
AP is a mystery to us all but whatever gender there is no need to take [ for want of a better word] the mickey.
The person who we have respected for many years is a true enthusiast, no mean author and it is of no consequence that this person depicts themselves in whatever way they wish.
You may have sussed out the true identity Of our Wolfe, but that will be of no importance to the majority of us hidden idividuals [ at least the people reluctant to attend the conference at dear old Brighton] mayby we all hide a character which is shall we say far from the truth.
Disapointed but not surprised .
Richard. |
AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2755
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:13 pm: |
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Ally
the wolf pups are called Paris-Texas.
If you know the film you know why. |
Phil Hill
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Phil
Post Number: 1001
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:14 pm: |
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Well, if it is AP who personally confirms this, who can argue.
But my respect for AP's work and contribution to the subject remains unchanged and undiminshed. For myself, I don't care what sex anyone is.
Are we to assume that the Spanish brandy is also invented though?
Phil |
Ally
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Ally
Post Number: 1113
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:18 pm: |
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BTW AP,
You're very pretty too. Didn't mean to leave you out but I am quite the canine fancier, in all their various forms.
Congratulations on finally coming out.
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Sir Robert Anderson
Chief Inspector
Username: Sirrobert
Post Number: 583
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:21 pm: |
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In my mind's eye, AP will forever be a Borgata Babe.
Sir Robert
'Tempus Omnia Revelat'
SirRobertAnderson@gmail.com
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 2552
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:24 pm: |
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I know the film and the wolves are everybit as beautiful as the film was!
[but I prefer the darker,nastier Fassbinder!] |
Helge Samuelsen
Inspector
Username: Helge
Post Number: 438
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:28 pm: |
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So! How does this make anyone look stupid?
It's just coincidence.
Hahah.....
AP, you are still my foxy fox, but don't get any ideas...
Helge
"If Spock were here, he'd say that I was an irrational, illlogical human being for going on a mission like this... Sounds like fun!" -- (Kirk - Generations)
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2757
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:40 pm: |
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Yes, Natalie, the film is like a lovely rolling oil painting that drips into your soul, but I always found it his darkest film.
Eats away at the quest of finding something that justifies the search.
Phil
I never invented cheap Spanish brandy, I just drink the wonderful muck. |
George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 846
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:54 pm: |
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Have you not - and here's a coincidence - seen THE TENDERNESS OF WOLVES by Fassbinder then, AP? Seeing as it is a largely fictionalised account of Fritz Haarmann and doesn't really hold back on a lot, I would say that is pretty dark!
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Maria Giordano
Inspector
Username: Mariag
Post Number: 489
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 6:00 pm: |
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Damn, AP! You look just like my brother in law.
You know, I always thought that I'd really want to know the identity of the murderer if it could somehow be absolutely confirmed, but given my reaction to the reveal about AP's gender I'm not so sure anymore.
Guess I'm just an old romantic at heart.
Mags
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 2553
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 6:23 pm: |
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I agree Ap
and Wim Wenders can be very strangely haunting, the way that the film unfolded in sequences of lovely painful memories as he was leaving the desert was quite hypnotic.
Philip,
Fassbinder happens to be my favourite of all directors!Its wonderful to come across someone who has heard of him these days!
Natalie
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Baron von Zipper
Inspector
Username: Baron
Post Number: 211
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 6:44 pm: |
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That's it? I feel used and humiliated by this. I have to leave the casebook, never to return.
Farewell and Bon Voyage,
Mike
PS This is the part where you all beg me to stay.
Mike
"La madre degli idioti č sempre incinta"
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Scooter Libby
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 9:43 am: |
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After all of this hype I had better feel really stupid! If I feel merely ignorant, or just dumb, I shall be very irate. |
belindafromHenmans
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 7:41 pm: |
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Well I... think that Philip would like to expose a claim as false, so my bet's going on the diary. But I predict the diarists will carry on and that it's an overstatement- the new evidence may be as false as anything else, and just as much a matter for dispute. |
Howard Brown
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Howard
Post Number: 1092
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 7:22 pm: |
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Well...I can't date ya,A.P....but I still love ya,even though you...
...have dogs !?! The utter gall of it all !!!
Just kidding my great friend...Thanks for allowing Mr.Shortpants Hutchinson to re-direct the current board "tone' to one of lightheartedness....much needed and much appreciated ! You go guy !
I'm glad that I didn't bet Mr.Begg on this a while back......I'd have lost my ass. |
George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 847
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 8:18 pm: |
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Phil - I don't think you've noticed yet, but congratulations on becoming Assistant Commisioner.
Mike - see ya then. Close the door on your way out (or should that be 'Please pull the door to'?) 
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 981
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 8:20 pm: |
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And the punchline is:
I guess Philip is now officially the boy who cried Wolf.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
 Profile  Email  Dissertations  Website
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George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 849
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 9:02 pm: |
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Dan - That one is deserving of an award in its own right.
Have a word with AP... I'm sure he'll send you his original manuscript to JACK THE MYTH...
By the way, Dan's posting does raise a point - in case anyone hasn't understood all this (and it's clear that some haven't), AP is the contact I was referring to when I posted the photos. I have not discovered who he is and 'outed' him against his will. He approached me and this was his decision.
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Erin
Detective Sergeant
Username: Rapunzel676
Post Number: 53
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 11:50 pm: |
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For once, I am virtually at a loss for words. "Flummoxed" is really the only one that comes to mind.  |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5211
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 3:37 am: |
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Only Schrodinger's cat to go now! 
Robert |
Spiro
Sergeant
Username: Auspirograph
Post Number: 15
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 4:03 am: |
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AP,
Congrats on being recognised for your outstanding contribution to Ripperology and the "art of farting". (For anyone thinking I'm being rude, it's an expression by Salvidor Dali who actually wrote a book on etiquette and good manners using it as a title).Thanks for the interesting journey!
I might as well take this chance to say a big hello to everyone and introduce myself to this message board. (Mike, this is were everyone rushes to welcome me with open arms and makes a fuss over my lurking in Australia). Yes...I'm male and loving it but happy to adjust into tartan skirts if that's what's required to get any respect around here...hmmmmm but I draw the line at becoming a pin-up for Mr Radka's pubescent curiosity!
Seriously though, thanks also to Philip and anon for being brave enough to get this going and not only show some appreciation to a distinguished criminologist but, to also provide some much needed light relief,ice-breaking hints and in putting a face to the words behind the posters here.
Thanks all and especially to the people behind Casebook who have provided, as we say in Oz, a "waterhole" for meeting and discussing the period with some remarkable people around the world.
Carry On
Spiro
(Message edited by auspirograph on November 02, 2005) |
Caroline Anne Morris
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Caz
Post Number: 2261
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 4:39 am: |
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Blimey, I told you all he was a wolf in she's clothing ages ago!
If anyone doubts that you can tell gender by simply reading the day-to-day utterings of a poster, doubt no more.
I bet that misery guts ADD (or is it AAD or ADA?) is male too.
BTW, there was no chance of any diary revelation that Keith Skinner wouldn't have known about already. Sorry folks.
Love,
Caz
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Richard Brian Nunweek
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Richardn
Post Number: 1511
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 4:41 am: |
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Hi Phil,
Message received and understood it is now been clarified .
Richard. |
George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 852
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 5:24 am: |
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Spiro - thanks matey.
Just to clarify one final time, there is no 'anon' involved here. It is just AP and myself. All the 'anon's in the actual posting where I attached the photo of AP were referring to AP himself, as a build-up to the actual following photo.
AP contacted me to ask if I would make a presentation. Part of that prize was the photo. He told me I could post this on Casebook to end the mystery when the time was right. It seems that the timing and manner was spot-on judging from the nice e-mails I've been getting!
Thanks to all of you who have given your support through this and played the game. Though he hasn't said so on the boards, AP is chuffed.
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Bob Hinton
Inspector
Username: Bobhinton
Post Number: 398
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:34 am: |
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Hi everyone,
How fascinating! Since we are posting photographs I wonder if anyone can identify the person shown here?
Lets just hope I can get the damn thing to load!
Bob |
BelindafromHenmans
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 3:09 am: |
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The site crashed!
Amazing.
Do you think people are genuinely interested in Jack the Ripper, then?
And who believes the diary anyway. But next time, I'd really love to see a letter signed by Maybrick placing him in Europe on the night of the double murders.
Wolf is quite sexy girls. |
slong
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 3:47 am: |
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are their any pictures of the crime scenes of jack the ripper floating on the net |
