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Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana
Post Number: 783
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 8:45 am: | 
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I am beginning to believe that George Lusk and the WVC had more effect than is generally acknowledged.
The first two canonicals were a week apart.
Shortly after Chapman GL was elected to head the WVC. After that the murders came farther and farther apart.
The WVC never caught Jack but I believe they made it harder and harder for him to carry out his murderous urges.
I can picture a scenario where he picks up a Whitechapel prostitute and she is about to lead him to a secluded location when he notices a patroller staring at him, memorizing his appearance. This is one less woman murdered.
If this was repeated again and again, imagine how his frustration grew. This would explain two things. 1) the public attack on Stride, 2) the kidney.
As Jack's sick cravings grew stronger and stronger, unsatisfied, he would have become more and more desperate.
This would lead to his taking more chances. Hence the attack on Stride in full view of Schwartz and Pipeman.
Jack would have lain awake at night consumed with hatred for GL and the WVC. I've always wondered what made him go for the kidney. It does not have the erotic connotations that the heart, womb, and other organs would have. But it would have shock value if it was mailed to somebody. If he really lay awake plotting how to get back at GL he may have formed the plan to take a kidney next time and mail it to Lusk. |
Scott Nelson
Detective Sergeant
Username: Snelson
Post Number: 145
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 3:02 pm: |
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Be careful Diana,
You're veering dangerously close to A?R thinking here. Many people wouldn't like that. |
Nicholas Smith
Detective Sergeant
Username: Diddles
Post Number: 97
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2005 - 10:35 am: |
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G'day Diana, There's also a possibilty Jack was a member of the committee. What better place to hide? In fact there was someone who proposed that Jack might have been related to an actor and there was an actor on the committee, so it doesn't hurt to explore different avenues.
But you do raise an interesting questiom, if the mutilations Jack caused were supposedly sexual in nature then why did he take Cathy'e kiney? I don't think it's got anthing to do with George personally, but as he was the pres of the committee who better to send it to?
Cheers
Jules |
Steve Swift
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 10:00 am: |
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Moreover Diana....why send it to Lusk?
But that can be explained I think, by a simple fact. The Police never 'disturbed' the killer did they, but by targeting Lusk, was the killer thumbing his nose at the man he saw as being responsible for the interuption during Strides death?
I agree with you,it certainly fits.
Why the kidney? He would not send one of his valued trophies to Lusk, so he chose something that meant nothing to him. |
Maria Giordano
Inspector
Username: Mariag
Post Number: 461
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 11:35 am: |
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Steve, I can't believe that anything he took from a victim would mean nothing to him.
He was working very swiftly. He had to extract what he could. I think any trophy (or souvenir is probably a better word) would be precious.
Mags
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Nicholas Smith
Detective Sergeant
Username: Diddles
Post Number: 98
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 12:01 pm: |
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G'day Mags, Steve, Jules, Scott, Diana, everyonr,
Just out of interest and a feeble mind, can any of you recall any other 'trophies' being sent to the police apart from the 'Yorkshire Ripper' tape and other fake letters etc.
jules |
Howard Brown
Chief Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 950
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 12:26 pm: |
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Jules....
In the Zodiac case, the bit of shirt from the cabdriver was sent in to the cops [ or press? ]. |
Nicholas Smith
Detective Sergeant
Username: Diddles
Post Number: 99
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 3:47 pm: |
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G'day Howie, Thanks for that, I'd forgotten about that blighter. Christ! I am starting to sound like a Pom.
If my memory serves me correctly zodiac also sent encrypted letters which were only decode by a school teacher, but that's by the by. To tour knowledge were there any other 'things' sent to the police or press? I know there were letters sent to the police by the 'Red Spider' in Russia, but I haven't got into letter writing as such although I'm sure there were plenty of others who wrote to the police or media seeking their gory.
Do you know of any other articles apart from letters that were sent to authorities? Fish didn't, neither did Panzram or Christie, Ng and Lake kept to themselves as did Buano and Bianchi. |
Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana
Post Number: 787
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 9:07 pm: |
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Dennis Rader sent stuff to the police. |
Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 887
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 9:14 pm: |
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Hi Jules,
BTK sent a number of items to news media / police (letters, photos, jewelry, etc.)
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
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Nicholas Smith
Detective Sergeant
Username: Diddles
Post Number: 101
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 10:37 am: |
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Thanks guys, Di and Da.
Do you think this was a way of taunting the police or a 'cry' for help that they wanted to be caught?
Jules |
Howard Brown
Chief Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 952
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 10:48 am: |
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Jules...
If you're asking me about taunting or a cry for help, I'd say the bastard was taunting the police. Both of them...Rader and Zodiac.
Although it wasn't a serial murder,a lock of the hair of the Lindbergh baby was sent to the police....so maybe there are others and even more that we don't know about due to particulars in specific cases. |
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