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ex PFC Wintergreen
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 1:20 am: | 
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I've been trying to compile a list of every suspect known on God's green disc to this case with the help of the Jack the Ripper Encylcopaedia by John J. Eddleston.
At the moment the list is:
E’s famous so it must be ‘im
Barnardo, Dr Thomas
Carroll, Lewis
Gladstone, William Ewart
Leopold II, King of the Belgians
Swinburne, Algernon Charles
Thompson, Francis Joseph
The Moronic, I mean Masonic Conspiracy
Albericci, Frederico (Fingers Freddy)
Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence
Churchill, Lord Randolph Henry Spencer
Cecil, Robert
Gull, Dr William Withey
Netley, John Charles
Saunders, Dr William Sedgewick
Sickert, Walter Richard x2
Stephen, James Kenneth
Warren, Sir Charles
The Russian Ambassadors
Konovalov, Vassily
Pedachenko, Dr Alexander (Luiskovo, Count Andrey)
Levitski (Levinsky)
Winberg, Miss
The Portuguese Sailors
Laurenco, Jose
Machado, Joao De Souza
Rocha, Joachim De
Xavier, Manuel Cruz
Generic titles.
Jill the Ripper
The Lodger
Polish Jew
Unknown Male – probably this guy
Complete Fiction
Harpick, Peter J.
White-Eyed Man
The Reverend Eustace Blackerby
Stanley, Dr
Tchkersoff, Olga
The suspects of personal detectives
Brown, General
Davies, Dr Morgan
Edwards, Frank
Father of G. W. B.
Gibson, Pastor John George (Jack)
Smith, G. Wentworth Bell
Sickert’s Veterinary Student
Died soon after Mary Kelly
Buchan, Edward
Chapman, Dr Frederick Richard
Druitt, Montague John
Sanders, Dr Jon William
Arrested because they scared somebody else by talking or standing or farting or some other stupid reason
Benelius Nikaner
Cornell, James
Cow, Douglas
Mason, Arthur Henry
Matthews, Oliver
Pricha, Antoni
Arrested for not quite such a stupid reason but still not Jack
Parent, Alfred
Quinn, Edward
Robinson, Pierce John
A bit of a villain
Cutbush, Thomas Hayne
Grainger, William Grant
Irwin, Jack
Isaacs, Joseph
Ostrog, Michael
Pizer, John
Solomon, Louis
Van Burst, Nicholai
Convicted Murderers
Bury, William Henry
Chapman, George (Klosowski, Severin)
Cream, Dr Thomas Neil
Deeming, Frederick Bailey
Hutchinson, George (America)
Kelly, James
Waddell, William
Wassili, Nicholai
Induced their own lynching
Holt, Dr William (The Original White-Eyed Man)
Squibby
Witnesses or acquaintances
Barnett, Joseph
Conway, Thomas
Kidney, Michael
Hutchinson, George (Britain)
McCarthy, John
Asylum Residers
Cohen, Aaron Davis
Fleming, Joseph
Fogelma
Hewitt, Dr John
Kaminsky, Nathan
Kosminski Aaron
Levy, Jacob
Miles, Frank
Puckridge, Oswald
Sanders, John William Smith
Stephenson, Robert Donston (D’Onston, Dr Roslyn)
Men who like to walk round with large knives
Isenschimd, Jacob
James, Henry
Ludwig, Charles
Murphy, John
Non-canonical suspects
Arnold, John
Law, Private
Leary, Private John
Sadler, James Thomas
Confessors to being the Ripper
Anderson, John
Avery, John
Blanchard, Alfred Napier
Brodie, William Wallace
Bull, William
Davidson, John
Fitzgerald, John
Maybrick, James
Simm, Clarence
He wore a hat.
Burrows, Edwin
Misogynists
Austin, Dick
Denny, Joseph
Gissing, George Robert
Maduro, Alonzo
Mary of Bremen
Pigott, William Henry
Tumblety, “Dr” Francis J.
Wirtofsky
Everyone else is getting suspected, so why not these guys?
Arthur, Sir George
Charrington, Frederick Nicholas
Gray, Alfred
Jacobs
McKenna, Edward
Monro, James
Szemeredy, Alois
Thomas, Dr William Evan
Westcott, Dr William Wynn
Nobody can remember why they were suspected, but they were.
Foster, John
Langan, John
Because some guy said
Thick, Sergeant William
Cohn, Dr (Koch, Dr)
If anyone else can tell me of any others, or believe that some of those I've got are in the wrong catergory, please tell me.
(I also realise that some of catergories are a little biased, I don't need to be told of this)
Cheers Wintergreen |
Jennifer D. Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2103
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:21 am: |
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Hi
I like your category, everyone else is getting suspected so why not these guys!
and he wore a hat
Jenni
"All you need is positivity"
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Olivier P.M.G. Donni
Sergeant
Username: Olivier
Post Number: 32
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:37 am: |
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Bravo. This list is impressive.
I like the "Nobody can remember why they were suspected, but they were" and the "He wore a hat".
Concerning this last category, can you say me who is Edwin Burrows?
Olivier |
Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 621
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:47 pm: |
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You can add a new category for "Because some people can't tell fiction from reality" with:
Richard "he plays a murderous doctor so well on stage" Mansfield
"The trained monkey like in that story by Poe"
And I think you are missing Tumblety (!), the Frenchys, and others too.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
 Profile  Email  Dissertations  Website
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1911
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 3:25 pm: |
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Hi
Certainly impressive list! Tumblety definitely should be included and, perhaps, Lippman too (see 1901 article below)
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David Knott
Detective Sergeant
Username: Dknott
Post Number: 75
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 9:00 am: |
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Very good - a bit harsh to say D'Onston was an asylum resident though!
Dan & Chris - Tumblety is there under misogynist |
D. Radka
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 5:40 pm: |
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Lubnowski, Morris
Abrahams, Woolf
-or- another Kosminski familiar.
--Per the A?R Summary
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ex PFC Wintergreen
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:37 pm: |
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After looking through this website I have added a few more.
Shaw, Jack - confessor
Schulse – convicted murderer
Shaw, James – convicted murderer
Pennock, James - convicted murderer
Dr Merchant – Died after Kelly
McCarthy, Daniel – Everyone else
Mansfield, Richard - Everyone else
Lipman, Julius – no one remembers
La Bruckman, Arbie – non-canonical suspects
Halliday, Elizabeth - convicted murderer
The Reverend Samuel Barnett – fiction
Green, James (s) – witness
Ali, Ameer Ben - non-canonical suspects
If you look back in the original list Tumblety is under misogynists, there could be no way I'd forget that guy being my favourite suspect. (Favourite in that he is the most interesting, I don't believe he was the Ripper.)
Oliver,
Edwin Burrows according to John J. Eddleston's book (which I have to admit gave me about 87% of this list) "was arrested on 8 December 1888 solely because he was wearing a peaked cap"
Wintergreen |
Scott Nelson
Detective Sergeant
Username: Snelson
Post Number: 117
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:50 am: |
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Isaac Kozminski
Abraham Kosminski
butcher Morris Bosman's shop assistant
butcher Solomon De Leuw
Henry Nathan
Jacob Greenbaum |
Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 624
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 1:15 pm: |
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Hi Wintergreen,
Hrm... My fault on the Tumblety thing. I didn't remember seeing him, and I tried to so a search for the name in my browser's "find in this page" option. I'm not sure if I had a typo in the name or what, but it didn't find one.
If you are considering the suggestions to add an unspecified male relative of Kosminski or a grab bag of random Jews, may I suggest a category name of "A Jew dun it, and he's a Jew"?
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
Profile Email Dissertations Website
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Alan Sharp
Chief Inspector
Username: Ash
Post Number: 813
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 1:42 pm: |
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Here are those mentioned in my book that are not on the list so far:
Johnny Donnelly - the name given by the Cardiff spiritualists
Frank Raper - arrested at "Dirty Dick's" public house in Liverpool Street on Oct 1st after openly boasting of being the murderer
John Kesel Joseph - arrested while lurking outside Shoreditch Mission Hall with a concealed knife - claimed he wanted to catch the murderer and "run him through"
John Foster - arrested and charged with the Whitechapel murders in Belfast
James Wilson - arrested in Belfast after being accused of being the Ripper and chased through the streets
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me" - Hunter S. Thompson (1939-2005)
Visit my website - http://www.ashbooks.co.uk/
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Poorhoney
Sergeant
Username: Poorhoney
Post Number: 19
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:24 pm: |
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Have I overlooked Alaska, the Malay cook?
Love the categories, Wintergreen.
Poorhoney
Punxsutawney Phil is a groundhog!
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 2326
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:31 pm: |
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Dont forget Mad Milly the terror of Camden Town!
and there again.........
Sorry Sterling work chaps and there of course...it's always worth a look at the Mr Diddles thread for some serious suspects!
Suzix |
Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 325
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:59 pm: |
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... and how could we forget the theoretical suspect who dressed up like a chick [ Conan Doyle's idea....]
...and the Mad Shochet [ Mr. Odell's suspect ]
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Scott Nelson
Detective Sergeant
Username: Snelson
Post Number: 118
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 12:44 am: |
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Oh, I forgot a couple of others under the category "A Jew dun it, and he's a Jew"
Hyam Hyams (very important, this guy)
someone very much like Dan Norder (even though Norder's probably not a Jew
Henry Defries (unsubstantiated)
David Levy (orange merchant of St James Place)
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R.J. Palmer
Chief Inspector
Username: Rjpalmer
Post Number: 587
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 1:28 am: |
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How quickly the world has forgotten Claude Reignier Conder. Sigh. And Johann Stammer, Mrs. Pearcey, Packer's rabbit-keeper, 'MacDonald' the Scottish lunatic. Heck, there's still plenty more. |
John V. Omlor
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Omlor
Post Number: 1347
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 6:53 am: |
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Has anyone mentioned Michael Maybrick, yet?
Wait for it,
--John |
Jennifer D. Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2110
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 7:20 am: |
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John,
i should think he fits into the category everyone else is getting.. rather nicely !
Jenni
"All you need is positivity"
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Chris Phillips
Chief Inspector
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 832
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 7:46 am: |
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Reginald Saunderson wrote a letter signed Jack the Ripper after killing a woman in 1894, but would have been only 15 in 1888.
According to Philippe Jullian, the Duke of Bedford was a suspect.
According to Dan Farson, an insane relation of Bertrand Russell was also suggested (presumably his uncle, George).
The only problem is knowing where to draw the line. Farson also suggested in jest that the music hall artiste Marie Lloyd might have been the killer. Perhaps there are even more ridiculous names already on the list ...
Chris Phillips
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Phil Hill
Inspector
Username: Phil
Post Number: 334
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 8:01 am: |
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Have you included Sir (then Dr) Robert Anderson, Asst Commissioner, Met Police, included as one of the conspiracy by Knight as I recall.
I would also recommend including Fred Abberline (because the detective often did it as Agatha Christie has shown); Patricia Cornwell, who I think did it in a previous life; and why not Queen Victoria herself, as someone will suspect her some day (bound to) and she was probably protecting her grandson by killing prostitutes he might one day encounter should he ever stray into Whitechapel. (She cannot, by definition, have as an alibi, lunching with herself!!) |
Sarah Long
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Sarah
Post Number: 1331
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 9:20 am: |
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Not sure if James Maybrick should be under the confessors!! Bit controversial I'd say.
Smile and the world will wonder what you've been up to 
Smile too much and the world will guess 
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Monty
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Monty
Post Number: 1599
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 9:35 am: |
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SARAH !
Good to read you.
Monty
I'm funny how, I mean funny, like I'm a clown? I amuse you. I make you laugh? I'm here to f**kin' amuse you? Whattya you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2112
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 9:54 am: |
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Hi Sarah,
well i guess a better place for James maybrick might be under because some guy said, but hey!!
Jenni
ps How you mean woman not hen-let? i never heard a theory about jack dressing up as a chicken!!!!!
"All you need is positivity"
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Frank van Oploo
Chief Inspector
Username: Franko
Post Number: 572
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 7:44 am: |
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Spring Heeled Jack - Complete Fiction / Inspiration / Reality?
Frank
"Coincidence is logical"
Johan Cruijff
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Chris Phillips
Chief Inspector
Username: Cgp100
Post Number: 835
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 7:58 am: |
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And don't forget Sir Arthur Conan Doyle himself (earlier on these boards and more recently in a book by John Leighton).
Chris Phillips
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ex PFC Wintergreen
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:24 pm: |
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Jesus you people know a lot.
Thanks all for the additions, it might be a while before I sort them all out, but I'll post them when I do.
If anyone could give a reference to the people they've put foward or write a little about them it would greatly appreciated.
Regards Wintergreen |
T Ericsson
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 11:33 am: |
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That List is the best thing I've seen on this site yet!! It's nice to see that someone has a sense of humour. By the way, I've been on this for several years now and after intensive research, I can't see any real conclusion
Thomas |
Lars Nordman
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 4:58 am: |
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The Fenians! The Fenians! The Fenians! (5 word rule) |
Monty
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Monty
Post Number: 1602
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 12:03 pm: |
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Guys,
Joseph Merrick....cos he looks the type !
Monty
I'm funny how, I mean funny, like I'm a clown? I amuse you. I make you laugh? I'm here to f**kin' amuse you? Whattya you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
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Sarah Long
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Sarah
Post Number: 1333
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:34 am: |
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Monty,
Hiya!!
Yup Joseph should be in there because all murders have massive deformaties.
Smile and the world will wonder what you've been up to
Smile too much and the world will guess
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2172
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:03 am: |
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really when you think about that merrick is on the list at all just shows how prejudice society is towards visable disabilites
"All you need is positivity"
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Maria Giordano
Inspector
Username: Mariag
Post Number: 361
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:04 pm: |
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Do I have to go through all that Elephant Man stuff again???
Mags
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Ines
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 2:37 pm: |
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Tumblety IS on the list, look under the misogynists!
Ines |
Neil K. MacMillan
Detective Sergeant
Username: Wordsmith
Post Number: 136
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 4:12 pm: |
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Under famous people Should have put His Majesty Prince Edward Albert. Totally ludicrous to think he did it but he was forwarded by Stephen Knight as a suspect Great list by the way. Neil |
Leanne Perry
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Leanne
Post Number: 1792
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 6:32 am: |
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G'day,
WALTER SICKERT - (because he painted us clues in his paintings, then made sure his dead body was cremated incase someone invented DNA Profiling after he died.)
LEANNE |
Neil K. MacMillan
Detective Sergeant
Username: Wordsmith
Post Number: 137
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 3:30 pm: |
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Leanne;
Smart boy that Sickert. Maybe he invented Patricia Cornwell as well. Neil |
Melissa Turcios
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 10:50 am: |
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Neil MacMillan QUOTE: Smart boy that Sickert. Maybe he invented Patricia Cornwell as well.
Hahahahaha. GREAT list. Loving the titles... |
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