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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1002
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi!!
Just thought..... as one does ...given a day off of work ...that there is an opening for people coming and going to see the 'sites' of Whitechapel......be good to be able to arrange times and places etc and hunt as a pack maybe....
Thoughts?

suzi
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna

Post Number: 1905
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Suzi,

A great and very nice idea, which I would jump on immediately if I would be in London (which I unfortunately won't be for some time yet).
But I'll let you know.
Hope there are others as well that will pick up on it.

All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1003
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 10:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cheers Glenn!!!!
Small pack as yet.....but we'll see.........

Best
Suzi
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Kris Law
Inspector
Username: Kris

Post Number: 364
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 3:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think its a smashing idea . . . I am hoping to make my way to London sometime in the next year, and would love to meet some people.

-K
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Ken Proctor
Police Constable
Username: Gizmo

Post Number: 10
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

FABULOUS IDEA LOVEY (just as long as your not the tour guide--been there done that, you got me lost the first time.!!!! congrats on your promotion ! from your underling constable "gizmo"
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1004
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 4:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hmmm Hi all.
Right ok everyones allowed to get lost at least once!!! Incidently Constable I think the
Desk Sgt would appreciate a cuppa!
Why is it always around the Goulston St bit??
praps the graffito should have read....
The Jewes are the men who can not find the City Darts!'
Did tho and no probs ever after!
So there!
Best
Suzi
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Ken Proctor
Sergeant
Username: Gizmo

Post Number: 11
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 4:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR You get my master lost just one more time and your puppy chow ms. Assistant Supperintended}
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1005
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 5:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is what passes for a serious thread!!!!!!

cheers
Suzi
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1006
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

O K Congrats Sgt Proctor!!!!! well done
Cheers
Suzi
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Scott Suttar
Detective Sergeant
Username: Scotty

Post Number: 139
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Suzi,

Won't be in London anytime soon, but when I am, probably the next couple of years I would love a walk and talk around the sites. Great Offer! I'll let you know when i'm coming.
Scotty.
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1007
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 4:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Scott
Great!....the pack gathers maybe!!!
Looking forward to it! let me know!
Cheers
Suzi
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna

Post Number: 1908
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 7:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If anybody is aiming to join up on the JtR conference in Brighton next summer, maybe we could take a day and pick up on Suzi's idea for a get-together "walk and talk"?

(But hopefully I'll be back in London sooner than that.)

All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1008
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 7:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Glenn
Perhaps it would be wiser to attempt a meet Before rather than After the Conf tho! Sounds an interesting idea tho
All best
Suzi
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert

Post Number: 2751
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 3:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bring your own ginger beer bottle.

Robert
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1009
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 3:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Robert!
Go Joe eh!!! and dont you go forgetting that pipe mi' dearie!

Cheers!
Suzi
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pf arm
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Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 8:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask or a stupid question but how safe is it to go walking around Whitechapel? Are some Ripper sites better for visiting than others?

I thought of going to a few sites last year but was unsure whether it be a smart move to go wondering round the area with a map blatantly looking an outsider and semi lost.

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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna

Post Number: 1923
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 10:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robert,

I would prefer a Guinness in the White Hart. They have excellent stout and bar food, not to mention the advantage of feeling Severin Klosowski breathing down your neck.

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"pf arm",

Don't worry. I went around Whitechapel and Aldgate both at night and during the day, and I felt perfectly safe, more so than here at home.
Actually, I went around with a map myself and people came forward out of the blue, offering me help without me even asking for it. They were very friendly and helpful. So you shouldn't have anything to worry about. It is not more risky then anywhere else.

Some Ripper sites are totally destroyed and changed beyond recognition, like the Kelly site (there is now a modern car park), the Stride site (now called Enriques Street) and Hanbury Street (Chapman).

The Nichols site (now Durward Street) is quite changed but it still contains a certain atmosphere, and the same goes for Mitre Square (which is totally rebuilt with modern buildings, but the layout of the square and the old cobble stones are still there).

The best site in my view, is the Tabram site, George Yard (now called Gunthorpe Street). This little gloomy road, with access through an archway from Whitechapel High Street is -- although the actual building is gone -- incredibly well kept and contains a lot of atmosphere. Highly recommended.

All the best


Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden
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Robert Clack
Inspector
Username: Rclack

Post Number: 280
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi all

I had to go to Tower Hamlets local history library the other day. I thought I would take a little detour to get there by way of Alderney Road (where George Lusk had a yard. And he lived in Tollit Street which runs of Alderney Road). I have to say it was like walking into a time warp, as very little has changed since then, even the street lamps looked victorian. I must take some pictures next time I am down there.

Glenn, Pinchin Street is a good site as well, very little has changed and it has cobbles too (I know how you like your cobbles).

All the best

Rob
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Natalie Severn
Chief Inspector
Username: Severn

Post Number: 996
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 12:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Robert,I must try to get to see these two-I have seen Pinchin Street but it seemed very desolate and drab-didnt notice the cobblestones!
Nats
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna

Post Number: 1930
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 1:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rob,
Thanks for the tip!

P.S. Yes, I couldn't live without my cobbles. :-)

All the best
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden
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Robert Clack
Inspector
Username: Rclack

Post Number: 282
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Natalie, Glenn

Natalie, Pinchin Street definitely has cobblestones, just double checked some photos, in case I was losing my marbles. I took this the same day I just missed you in Durward Street.



As you can see, I took that on a bright sunny day, I am sure on an cloudy overcast day it would look as drab and desolate as Natalie described.

All the best

Rob
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1020
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wow! thanks all!

Right its perfectly safe to wander about as long as you dont make a big thing of doing the map in hand thing!,,,,,mind you we've all done it at times!...think the thing to do is when in the pub reccee yr next place and go for it!

Rob- Great pic have been there and know what you mean!

Glenn- Cobblers!...... he he! but the cobbles in Mitre Sq take some beating |I reckon IMHO!
ok looks like we're getting here tho!!! Think the darts would be a good meeting place as a starter tho!

Cheers
Suzi


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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1021
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

pfarm!!!!
That is what this thread is all about....dont worry its fine to wander about.... but it helps if you vaguely know where youre going! If we can be of any help let me know
Cheers
Suzi
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Glenn L Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna

Post Number: 1935
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 8:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rob,

Great photo as usual. Thanks for that.

Suzi madam!

Ah! I never found the time to go into the City Darts, to my regret. So little time, so much to do... London is a big city.

"...but it helps if you vaguely know where youre going"

Tell me about it! The first time I went there on my own I felt (and probably looked) like a decapitated hen, losing my orientation on several occasions. And note that I had even "rehearsed" the map beforehand.

All the best

(Message edited by Glenna on July 30, 2004)
Glenn Gustaf Lauritz Andersson
Crime historian, Sweden
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PF arm
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2004 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the advise, i won't be up London until the autumn, probably November, so i've plenty of time to rehearse those routes!

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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi

Post Number: 1465
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 8:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PF arm
Good luck!!!!! Let us know how you get on!!!!

Glenn
LOVE that image!!!!!

Cheers
Suzi

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